UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

Kalearne · Dec 30, 2015

Twisted Melon said:
I might be missing the obvious but I'm intrigued by a planetoid I noticed while exploring Merope, it may be a bug but it doesn't appear on the ship scans, doesn't show in the system map and yet is landable.
I've attached a video showing the selection of all system objects orbiting Merope 2, none of which are the planetoid, and finally an advanced scan showing no new objects found. (I didn't notice the SSS until watching the video after so didn't investigate it.)https://youtu.be/7zq160DkxII

Worthy of further investigation?

Check your system map. I've had some issues with system scan data and objects not being selectable or scannable via the cockpit but I could always target via system map.

I lodged a bug report and was told its a known issue.

EDIT. Here was my response.

Thanks for getting in touch and sorry about the delay getting back to you.

This is currently a known issue, the data should still be there you just cannot see that you have explored those points.

It should only affect a few systems during a period we were having server issues.

Sell the data if possible, as these could be discovered by others the longer you wait.

Best regards,

Twisted Melon · Dec 30, 2015

Twisted Melon said:
Relogged and still not showing on my client.

Ah it does show in the system map - Selecting Merope 2C hightlights it - just not showing up as selectable in my ship UI

CMDR GTR2014 · Dec 30, 2015

Twisted Melon said:
Relogged and still not showing on my client.

http://i.imgur.com/GHq2mhs.jpg

Futuristic Kung Fu · Dec 30, 2015

Remember "barnacle" is just a metaphor.

TFW Primus · Dec 30, 2015

CMDR GTR2014 said:
Water based? you mean real ones or the ones of the game?

Barnacles in the real world are water based life, so perhaps they originated from gas giants with water based life in the game. Searching moons of those specific gas giants could potentially be a lead worth following. I searched one with no luck yesterday. Need to find more. There were other moons of that same planet but I didn't have time to check them yesterday. If I can remember the system I will search them today. I believe it was about 30ly from Maia.

CMDR GTR2014 · Dec 30, 2015

Twisted Melon said:
Ah it does show in the system map - Selecting Merope 2C hightlights it - just not showing up as selectable in my ship UI

cant link it

http://i.imgur.com/GHq2mhs.jpg

Colonel Kenney · Dec 30, 2015

TFW Primus said:
Barnacles in the real world are water based life, so perhaps they originated from gas giants with water based life in the game. Searching moons of those specific gas giants could potentially be a lead worth following. I searched one with no luck yesterday. Need to find more. There were other moons of that same planet but I didn't have time to check them yesterday. If I can remember the system I will search them today. I believe it was about 30ly from Maia.

I've been to ice rings and searched and mined with no luck in Maia and in the Pleades

CMDR GTR2014 · Dec 30, 2015

TFW Primus said:
Barnacles in the real world are water based life, so perhaps they originated from gas giants with water based life in the game. Searching moons of those specific gas giants could potentially be a lead worth following. I searched one with no luck yesterday. Need to find more. There were other moons of that same planet but I didn't have time to check them yesterday. If I can remember the system I will search them today. I believe it was about 30ly from Maia.

I'm going right now to a ammonia planet with no atmo, hope it's landable.

Simpleye · Dec 30, 2015

Colonel Kenney said:
Sound is definitely in play right now. There are some things in the sound that have not been discovered yet. I've picked up odd unique sounds as well.

Found an online morse to English converter.
I'll have a go tonight see what I come up with

Han_Zen · Dec 30, 2015

b_laiskiainen said:
This is bonkers enough for me to go out and have a look see

Perhaps I see you out there? My Cmdr name is Han Zen

yoda711 · Dec 30, 2015

TFW Primus said:
Barnacles in the real world are water based life, so perhaps they originated from gas giants with water based life in the game. Searching moons of those specific gas giants could potentially be a lead worth following. I searched one with no luck yesterday. Need to find more. There were other moons of that same planet but I didn't have time to check them yesterday. If I can remember the system I will search them today. I believe it was about 30ly from Maia.

Pretty sure all life on Earth is carbon based. Barnacles just happen to live in water.

Futuristic Kung Fu · Dec 30, 2015

yoda711 said:
Pretty sure all life on Earth is carbon based. Barnacles just happen to live in water.

But Carbon is an element, water is not. It's one thing that I think FD got wrong, when they see ammonia based, they mean the life forms cannot survive without ammonia, in the same way we can't survive without water.

CMDR GTR2014 · Dec 30, 2015

Futuristic Kung Fu said:
But Carbon is an element, water is not. It's one thing that I think FD got wrong, when they see ammonia based, they mean the life forms cannot survive without ammonia, in the same way we can't survive without water.

Wait... We are carbon based life because we are "made" out mostly on carbon. Says nothing about what we need to live... (like all the animals have diferent need , there are carnivorous , herbivorous, onivorous).

By saying a life is ammonia based, means that most of its elements are made out of ammonia.

Han_Zen · Dec 30, 2015

Futuristic Kung Fu said:
But Carbon is an element, water is not. It's one thing that I think FD got wrong, when they see ammonia based, they mean the life forms cannot survive without ammonia, in the same way we can't survive without water.

Thargoids are carbon based life forms, living in ammonia atmospheres.

All known life forms in the Elite universe are carbon based. The barnacles are probably the first exception.

Futuristic Kung Fu · Dec 30, 2015

CMDR GTR2014 said:
Wait... We are carbon based life because we are "made" out mostly on carbon. Says nothing about what we need to live... (like all the animals have diferent need , there are carnivorous , herbivorous, onivorous).

By saying a life is ammonia based, means that most of its elements are made out of ammonia.

Yeah, but neither ammonia nor water are elements, so you can't be mostly made up of them, at least not in the sense of carbon based. A mistake on FD's part, I believe.

Kalearne · Dec 30, 2015

CMDR GTR2014 said:
Wait... We are carbon based life because we are "made" out mostly on carbon. Says nothing about what we need to live... (like all the animals have diferent need , there are carnivorous , herbivorous, onivorous).

By saying a life is ammonia based, means that most of its elements are made out of ammonia.

I always thought it was carbon based chemistry not carbon based makeup. I vaguely remember something about silicon being a viable other option for chemical life processes we associate with life but;

1. The info is probably 20 years old
2. I'm on my third glass of red wine
3. I can't be bothered to google right now. Got a CG to focus on... and you know... wine

Futuristic Kung Fu · Dec 30, 2015

And actually we're 65 percent Oxygen and 18 percent carbon according to the PERIODIC TABLE OF THE ELEMENTS on the wall on the other side of the room. Time to ask Wikipedia what "carbon based" means!

Ouberos · Dec 30, 2015

Thanks for the catch up. I haven't really spent much time planet side.

I do know IRL Barnacles have the longest male sexual organs in relation to body size of any animal.

Thats not helpful is it?

As you were.

CMDR GTR2014 · Dec 30, 2015

Futuristic Kung Fu said:
Yeah, but neither ammonia nor water are elements, so you can't be mostly made up of them, at least not in the sense of carbon based. A mistake on FD's part, I believe.

Yes, and i just made this mistake myself. But thing is ... we live in a water like word,(or earth like) and we are carbon based, the why can't be a form of life living in ammonia world, based on some other element?

Futuristic Kung Fu · Dec 30, 2015

Here's what Wikipedia says:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-based_life
Apparently any alien life would also be carbon based, so no point in specifying it which is why FD chose their current way.

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CMDR GTR2014 said:
Yes, and i just made this mistake myself. But thing is ... we live in a water like word,(or earth like) and we are carbon based, the why can't be a form of life living in ammonia world, based on some other element?

Because Carbon actually works REALLY WELL for bonding with other elements, a lot better than any other element, so the Thargoids are probably also carbon based, unless they're like the Shadows or the Vorlons.