The cobra is the right size, but if I'm playing Han Solo Mode, I fly my Asp.
So..which ship is Elite's Millennium Falcon?
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Yeah an Asp is about half the size of a football field.
If you look at the repeaters as well you can see that its they are about the same size as the ports for the medium guns on the Cobra, 2 mediums on a modified friehter, more cargo space than the cobra but less firepower. Possibly a better jump range but in real space not quite as fast. Its not quite the exact match but for my money I like to fly around in me cobra when doing smuggling, just never tell me the odds of being scanned whilst carrying those slightly less legal goods.
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Cobra Mk III all the way.
(From a proud Mk IV CMDR)
(From a proud Mk IV CMDR)
See, to me, that's the thing.
In the SW universe, the MF is fast across the Galaxy (Hyperspace), and isn't all that quick in normal space. In Ep IV it gets over taken by a tie fighter coming into the Death star, and can't outrun the two that chase it out. In Ep V it can't out run that star destroyer or the tie fighters following it into the asteroid field, he instead escapes by hiding with the trash.
In elite, our approximation for "hyperspace speed" is jump range, which the Anaconda is king of, but the Asp is the next best IIRC, greatly exceeding the Cobra's jump range. Meaning the Asp gets across the galaxy quicker, and moves in real space a little slower (like the MF).
Either way, not arguing, just saying. I love flying my Cobra around too.
You do make a valid point, but I don't feel that it's a direct translation in universal languages here, largely due to the varying effects and effectiveness of the different dynamics.
The Cobra is the "get out of jail free" ship where the Asp isn't.
Keelback
It is the Cobra Mk III, indeed!Sorry for the Necro but I'd been meaning to get this done for a while now but I was out exploring and couldn't get back to my Cobra. For those discussing the size of the two ships I "roughly" superimposed the cobra over the falcon, when you take into account that the two seats are further apart on the Cobra MkIII I think its fairly accurate. The Falcon is certianlly the bigger ship but not by much. My vote certainly goes to the Cobra being Elites "Falcon". Its got the pedigree, its got the style and its about the right size
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Exactly so!
I think it's got a claim in spirit for sure.
I mean, look at how people are arguing the other ships
Cobra - fastest ship in space (even though the Falcon isn't THAT fast in real space, only hyperspace)
Asp - because the long jump range is the closest analogy to the Falcon's hyperspace speed.
T6 - Designed for cargo not combat (as was the Falcon as a stock light freighter before Han's special modifications)
Within this scope the Keelback feels like the T6 after said special modifications. Downside is there's no co-pilot, but that's esthetics.
But consider that the Falcon didn't do dogfighting, like the Cobra and Asp does. It was all about turrets, and using a Keelback with gimbles feels a lot more like that to me.
Wait the falcon wasn't "That fast" in normal space...???
You do recall the Falcon out. running. tie fighters... right? Those Tie fighters weren't making strafing passes on it (epsiode4 was a breakdown, remember), they were chasing it.. because they had no other option.
Its awesome because it was a freakin freighter, so hot rodded up that it could lead Tie fighters on a chase. just.. wow.
You do recall the Falcon out. running. tie fighters... right? Those Tie fighters weren't making strafing passes on it (epsiode4 was a breakdown, remember), they were chasing it.. because they had no other option.
Its awesome because it was a freakin freighter, so hot rodded up that it could lead Tie fighters on a chase. just.. wow.
If the Falcon was faster the TIEs never would have gotten a single strafing run in, not to mention clearly passing it in shots to do so. It would have been one long "run away" sequence with the TIEs getting smaller and smaller.
The TIEs were shown to be faster than the Falcon - heck, they never even caught up with the one scout that passed it after jumping to Alderaan in range before the Death Star tractor beam caught it.
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Agree with this, the Millennium Falcon was very fast - for a freighter. The reason Han could outrun Imperial blockades was that the MF was constantly underestimated by the opposite side. The phrase "what a piece of junk" actually referred to the YT-1300 which apparently wasn't highly regarded. Just like the Cobra mk4
Now the Keelback is out, I'm beginning to liken it to the MF.
It seems to give off that Lakon 'piece of junk' vibe. Cobras (and even Asps) are a bit nicer.
Obviously the Cobra Mk3. It has just the right "can do everything but isn't particularly awesome at anything" vibe... Also it's fast, anyone talking about the MF as not having a high sublight speed has obviously not watched the films properly. The Cobra has character and also has moments where is is both amazing to fly and an absolute pig at the same time... in this respect it absolutely IS the Falcon.
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Agree with this, the Millennium Falcon was very fast - for a freighter. The reason Han could outrun Imperial blockades was that the MF was constantly underestimated by the opposite side. The phrase "what a piece of junk" actually referred to the YT-1300 which apparently wasn't highly regarded. Just like the Cobra mk4
I think that applies pretty well to the Asp too. It's one of the "Older" designs in elite, relative to the others IIRC. It's a Lakon, so it looks like a heap. even if it was initially meant as a combat ship, it's more recent iterations tend to be aimed at long range, light cargo missions (Falcon).
To me, the MF is a light freighter with a "special" hyper drive that could get it out of, and far from, trouble very quickly. In game, that's a dead ringer for the Asp, IMO.