Why Horizons on Steam is still marked as Early Access?
I still smell Beta version...
I still smell Beta version...
Early Access?
- Thread starter Drakonluke
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Because its effectively a season pass and new content will be released for Horizons throughout the year.
On the other hand in theory it gives the devs the right to say, we told you it was not ready ;P
Some early access games on Steam list themselves as alpha. Their not even that sometimes.
The early access for Horizons refers to the fact that what you paying for isn't a finished product, even though it is playable without any extras added to it. We (the players before Steam) know it as a season that is being added to over the next year.
The early access for Horizons refers to the fact that what you paying for isn't a finished product, even though it is playable without any extras added to it. We (the players before Steam) know it as a season that is being added to over the next year.
Yeah, it's because of the idiots that did 0 market research on the original game then played 30 seconds and complained that they were misled and posted 500 bad reviews and complaints.
Because it is. Planetary landings is the barebone structure of the Horizons season, with the awesome ability to land on some planets and a very basic gameplay which will be improved over the season, until it gets to its full feature state, which we have backed purchasing the seasonal pass
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Just to be clear: I (the player that pre-ordered on Frontier Store) did know this. I play on steam only because of some nice features like time counter and uploadable screenshots).
But, still, is a season pass not a beta, should be listed as a finished product.
But since the many many bugs we see, yes, maybe it really is an early access version.
Depends on your POV I guess and apparently Steam is fine with this...for some reason.
FDev states on the store (not Steam) that
That is 'early access' depending on how you define rapid. But it isn't *EARLY ACCESS* as really everyone else understands it.
Early Access is a half baked product that could be in beta or very well still in alpha. Highlighting that it is early access pretty much tells you that you shouldn't expect a final product, expect more or less issues and it indeed can and quite often does mean that the product will not work at some point.
I really don't like that Steam allows games like ED:H early access status.
For one it limits customers. But the bigger problem is that it creates a completely false impression what early access means. They buy a couple of 'early access' titles and then run into something that ACTUALLY IS early access and start complaining why the game they paid for isn't working half of the time.
FDev states on the store (not Steam) that
That is 'early access' depending on how you define rapid. But it isn't *EARLY ACCESS* as really everyone else understands it.
Early Access is a half baked product that could be in beta or very well still in alpha. Highlighting that it is early access pretty much tells you that you shouldn't expect a final product, expect more or less issues and it indeed can and quite often does mean that the product will not work at some point.
I really don't like that Steam allows games like ED:H early access status.
For one it limits customers. But the bigger problem is that it creates a completely false impression what early access means. They buy a couple of 'early access' titles and then run into something that ACTUALLY IS early access and start complaining why the game they paid for isn't working half of the time.
You may (or may not) be aware, but your Statistics TAB now displays your actual play time in game (Steam counts all the time from EXE launch) and the game has a built-in screenshot mechanism. F10 creates a screenshot in your Pictures folder and if you are in Private or Solo, ALT-F10 creates a 4K resolution screenshot.
Pretty sure Braben said it was effectively a beta in a newsletter or on here. Just before release too.
So we had a beta for a beta that then no longer is beta but effectively still is without calling it a beta?
I know, but I still like steam features better (for the social thing, mainly. You know... upload, comments, likes, etc.).
And beside, I want the game and its play time on my steam profile. And I already lost 50 hrs in the statistics playing the standalone Horizons.
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yeah FD's standard practice seems to be to release a beta, get loads of bug reports from players, fix one or two things that they were going to fix anyway, then re-release the same beta and call it final...
then all the same bugs get discovered again by the players who weren't in the beta, there's a flurry of posts about them, which usually get overrun with apologists saying "it's still a work in progress!", and very little gets done by FD, because they're all busy working to the next season's December 16th deadline.
"Ship it now, fix it later" - Frontier Developments 1994-2016
then all the same bugs get discovered again by the players who weren't in the beta, there's a flurry of posts about them, which usually get overrun with apologists saying "it's still a work in progress!", and very little gets done by FD, because they're all busy working to the next season's December 16th deadline.
"Ship it now, fix it later" - Frontier Developments 1994-2016
I think that the Steam stats are wrong anyway - they don't tally with the in-game ones, and from what I can figure out relate to how long the launcher is running. Exit Elite, and leave the launcher running while you browse the forums or whatever, and you Steam clock carries on. Not particularly meaningful.
Are you really just trying to stir something out of nothing here ?
do us all a favour and just read this
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=209366
It answers your main question posed in your OP... after that it's all hot air... you sure you're not a noob ?
Why no one looks at signatures and mistake me for a noob?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=219610
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Because the whole idea of 'Early Access' has been perverted from what was once a reasonable concept - 'here, have an early look at this not-finished game we're working on' - into just another cynical marketting ploy.
'Early Access' is also sometimes used by developers as a form of crowd funding, in effect by charging more for early access than the game will ultimately end up being sold for once it goes gold. By paying more you're 'supporting' the development of the project to, crucially, improve the chances that the game will actually happen.
'Early Access' is also a kind of saftey net if something goes base over apex and the game doesn't land in a state previously promised as because part of the principle behind early access is the same as it is for a beta: what you see now, or even what's been promised, isn't guaranteed to be reflective of the final product.
FD have conflated all of the above into what is perhaps one of the most confused marketting strategies for an season pass yet conceived. It's as if FD really, really wanted to do season passes for this game but were worried about season passes getting a rather bad rep over the last couple of years, so someone decided that they shouldn't call Horizons a season pass. What FD edned up doing is probably more backward and cockamamie than just being up front about it being a season pass would ever have been.
FD do some pretty daft things from time to time but this one is a corker.
'Early Access' is also sometimes used by developers as a form of crowd funding, in effect by charging more for early access than the game will ultimately end up being sold for once it goes gold. By paying more you're 'supporting' the development of the project to, crucially, improve the chances that the game will actually happen.
'Early Access' is also a kind of saftey net if something goes base over apex and the game doesn't land in a state previously promised as because part of the principle behind early access is the same as it is for a beta: what you see now, or even what's been promised, isn't guaranteed to be reflective of the final product.
FD have conflated all of the above into what is perhaps one of the most confused marketting strategies for an season pass yet conceived. It's as if FD really, really wanted to do season passes for this game but were worried about season passes getting a rather bad rep over the last couple of years, so someone decided that they shouldn't call Horizons a season pass. What FD edned up doing is probably more backward and cockamamie than just being up front about it being a season pass would ever have been.
FD do some pretty daft things from time to time but this one is a corker.
In short. The beta is going very well and we will release soon, so it will be no more a beta.
It is written in english, I think.
But maybe, I am an alphabet and I can't read. But even in that case, that doesn't make me a noob.
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