I dunno, I'm trying mining right now, and it's pretty good. In a Cobra Mk III with 20 cargo, I got 16 palladium and 4 gallite in about ten minutes, returned to station, and got a nice 250,000 credit payout. I think it's fine, you just need to venture into the RES. They not only have better materials to mine, but they have other NPCs who not only don't deplete your 'roids, but they can find materials for you.
Piracy? I guess it can use a tad bit of a buff in the money-department, preferably by upgrading hatch-breakers (haven't tested larger ones in 1.5/2.0, though), or maybe upgrading the collecting process of a lot of cargo (100+). I think the real buffs need to come in the fun department. For piracy:
- Allow us to hail NPCs and declare piracy
- Contacts, specifically one for pirates
- increase bounties and make having a murder/large bounty dangerous
- Make trader NPCs carry a reasonable amount of cargo for their ship class rather than for balance. I'd rather get 200 tonnes of animal meat than 20t of progenitor cells, because a T7 with 20t is just immersion-breaking. That also opens up opportunity for the ever-so-rare (great hauls) like this.
- NPC + Player wings (this also leads to heists, where you fly with a pirate boss, for example, and attack a scheduled transport)
- More convoy beacons
- Pirate network - get info on the best trade routes, when scheduled ships are to enter the system, where they'll be, perhaps a meeting in an asteroid field somewhere can be interrupted?
For Mining:
- Allow us to find artefacts and special stuff in asteroids, increasing the farther from the bubble we go, the closer to nebula we go, and the closer to Merope we go.
- Allow us to tag asteroids we've already mined
- One day, rock hermits. Muahaha. In a single planetary ring, I'm sure every player could build a rock hermit home and not one would be found by another player. Do it!
- Decrease turret prices, they're really expensive, and I don't see why. I know they should be more expensive than the others, but a Class 2 fixed multicannon is 34,000 compared to a turretd one's 1.2 million.
- What else could miners use?
I dunno, I'm trying mining right now, and it's pretty good. In a Cobra Mk III with 20 cargo, I got 16 palladium and 4 gallite in about ten minutes, returned to station, and got a nice 250,000 credit payout. I think it's fine, you just need to venture into the RES. They not only have better materials to mine, but they have other NPCs who not only don't deplete your 'roids, but they can find materials for you.
Piracy? I guess it can use a tad bit of a buff in the money-department, preferably by upgrading hatch-breakers (haven't tested larger ones in 1.5/2.0, though), or maybe upgrading the collecting process of a lot of cargo (100+). I think the real buffs need to come in the fun department. For piracy:
- Allow us to hail NPCs and declare piracy
- Contacts, specifically one for pirates
- increase bounties and make having a murder/large bounty dangerous
- Make trader NPCs carry a reasonable amount of cargo for their ship class rather than for balance. I'd rather get 200 tonnes of animal meat than 20t of progenitor cells, because a T7 with 20t is just immersion-breaking. That also opens up opportunity for the ever-so-rare (great hauls) like this.
- NPC + Player wings (this also leads to heists, where you fly with a pirate boss, for example, and attack a scheduled transport)
- More convoy beacons
- Pirate network - get info on the best trade routes, when scheduled ships are to enter the system, where they'll be, perhaps a meeting in an asteroid field somewhere can be interrupted?
For Mining:
- Allow us to find artefacts and special stuff in asteroids, increasing the farther from the bubble we go, the closer to nebula we go, and the closer to Merope we go.
- Allow us to tag asteroids we've already mined
- One day, rock hermits. Muahaha. In a single planetary ring, I'm sure every player could build a rock hermit home and not one would be found by another player. Do it!
- Decrease turret prices, they're really expensive, and I don't see why. I know they should be more expensive than the others, but a Class 2 fixed multicannon is 34,000 compared to a turretd one's 1.2 million.
- What else could miners use?
Implying it's not happened already?
Implying it's not happened already?
I agree with this completely. Long-Range Smuggling just grinds my gears, (ALD) bounty hunting is absurd if they're making upwards of 5-6M per hour with the best ships, et cetera. Not only do these ridiculously-high profit activities ruin the fun of elite dangerous for many, but they destroy the ecosystem for all.
The basic ecosystem is this:
http://i.imgur.com/ol9KvGP.png
This can and has happened in many places throughout Elite, given the correct conditions. This was Lave for a long time, with rares-traders passing through, which would then be pirated, and then the pirates would be killed by bounty hunters. Here are some of the requirements:
- Traders and/or Miners need to exist, in reasonable number. For this to happen, trade routes running through dangerous space where pirates ought to be should be incentivized, and all inflated methods of earning money need to be nerfed or eliminated. Low-sec, low pop systems should want food and other necessities far more than most and be willing to pay up to an order of magnitude more for it (in the case of grain), and while high-security systems would pay you for your trading, they would noly do so barely. Lower the security, more profit, risk vs reward.
- Pirates need to exist, and have larger bounties. This is something that can be improved upon, as player death isn't something which will happen often, and so when a player does die to another for a bounty, that bounty should be very large. Lets make murder nothing to joke about, eh? Here's a list of ideas to pick and choose from - piracy is in a decent spot now, so don't go crazy. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=163170
- Bounty hunters need to be able to track and kill other players more easily. The only way for a bounty hunter to start tracking a target is to come across him, with only luck involved. Here's an example of a better bounty hunting system:
> New bounty board created - top 50 bounties in the system. This new board only includes those who are online.
> The bounty hunter can "tag" up to three of them at a time. The bounty hunter will now get a message whenever their target jumps into a medium+ security system, and has a chance to get a notification when the target jumps into a low-security system. no indication for anarchies.
> The bounty hunter gets preferential P2P, making it far more likely for him to be matched with his target rather than create a new instance
> The bounty hunter does not need to scan the target's ship in order to get a name - he only needs to do so to get info on sub-systems, local bounty, shields, hull and powerplay allegiance - normal scan stuff. He still needs to KWS, but only once per X amount of time (24 hours). This is to eliminate the need for the bounty hunter to have to scan the player every time they fight.
> The bounty hunter can buy a device to track the targets himself. If the bounty hunter finds the target in normal space, he can fire off and attach a beacon to the target's ship, telling the bounty hunter whenever the target warps to any system. (This may be a bit overkill, is optional)
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Design Discussion Archive, a previously forum open to kickstarter backers who paid at least 300 pounds or so for the game. They gave their ideas long before the first alpha was released, and helped to shape the game immensely. Read through it.
I was doing back then. Now, I use a Clipper for mining. After all the mining equipment required, I have 192 tons left for goodies. My first mining trip in the Clipper made me 3.8 million credits. Its not the quickest way for me to make money by far but yeah, relaxing it is.
