so do you think that FD is correctly doing the job with this game ?
is everything all right with the multiplayer experience, the grinding mechanics, the powerplay thingy, the long wasting time travels.. etc.. ??
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so do you think that FD is correctly doing the job with this game ?
is everything all right with the multiplayer experience, the grinding mechanics, the powerplay thingy, the long wasting time travels.. etc.. ??
That's a huge assumption that's backed up by no facts whatsoever. As FD were offering a better deal to buy Horizons outside Steam (you got £10 off if you already owned the original game), any sensible Steam player (do they exist?
) would have upgraded that way to save money. And then not be included in Steam stats. Which are rubbish anyway (as with all stats, people read what they like into them, and are generally wrong). - - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -
Personally? Yes. That's not to say that I'm not looking forward to future features, or am blind to the limitations of the current game. But are the fundamentals there? Does it provide me with entertainment worth the money they are charging? Absolutely, yes.
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I'm happy with the time travels, you can't avoid it, your travelling huge distances at a time. If your looking for missions check the destination system and port before accepting if you don't wanna travel massive distances.
The multiplayer and grinding mechanics do need a lot of work, but when it comes to trading it does have an inherent grind to it, trading is a grind, but its an optional grind. Maybe FD could jazz it up a bit, maybe multi crew and walking around ships will help, but that's yet to be seen.
Overall, these are the kind of things I would have preferred FD worked on before releasing such an empty Horizons expansion.
Have you any evidence to support this claim. I don't use Steam. I'd much prefer my money went to a game developer than a middleman who doesn't actually produce anything. The last time this topic came up, the vast majority if those posting hadn't bought through Steam.
That's a huge assumption that's backed up by no facts whatsoever. As FD were offering a better deal to buy Horizon outside Steam (you got £10 off if you already owned the original game), any sensible Steam player (do they exist?
Check steam spy pal.
Elite Dangerous sales are at 650k on Steam alone, FD reported around 800k units sold towards winter 2015...... That's more than half the games being sold or activated via Steam.
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Yes. And considering noone has ever made a better spacegame in the history of, well, everything, and that there is literally no competition whatsoever on the horizon (ha!) in the forseeable future, kinda re-affirms that. Your two statements are not related by the way, unless you assume that devs can only be doing their job 'correctly' if they call you, the Special One, for personal advice on directions. Unfortunately, you're not and they won't. Anyway, when you talk about 'long-wasting time travels' I get the feeling ED will never be a good game for you, and you'd much rather be looking at cutscenes with Gary Oldman.
Which is fine, but again, things can be good without them conforming to your personal needs and desires.
Even the main game has negative reviews now but seriously, it is understandable. People buying a game that is called "dangerous" and complain if they get blown up. Additionally, ED is not an easy game like the FarCry series for example. In ED you have to work a little harder and better to achieve the same billions one can achieve in other easy-mode games.
However, ED has a problem tho. It's lack of depth. Don't get me wrong, you can do ALOT of things in ED ... but the thigns you can do are not really deep. Imagine it like a giant pool with 5000m² but with a depth of 0,50m.
However, ED has a problem tho. It's lack of depth. Don't get me wrong, you can do ALOT of things in ED ... but the thigns you can do are not really deep. Imagine it like a giant pool with 5000m² but with a depth of 0,50m.
You were talking about Horizons. This is a classic example of reading what you want into statistics.
Not quite, its a valid reference to sales for this game, remember when ED was first launched there was no intention to add it to steam at all but players asked FD on the forums and they acknowledged them, added steam codes and added the game to Steam. That means that a lot of the sales before steam were done via the ED store, and yet the majority of sales have been via Steam.
To me that shows that Horizons will most likely sell most of it's units the same way.
If you can prove otherwise, with evidence I'll be happy to acknowledged you.
Yes. And considering noone has ever made a better spacegame in the history of, well, everything, and that there is literally no competition whatsoever on the horizon (ha!) in the forseeable future, kinda re-affirms that. Your two statements are not related by the way, unless you assume that devs can only be doing their job 'correctly' if they call you, the Special One, for personal advice on directions. Unfortunately, you're not and they won't. Anyway, when you talk about 'long-wasting time travels' I get the feeling ED will never be a good game for you, and you'd much rather be looking at cutscenes with Gary Oldman.
why immediately think ''if he doesn't like elite may be he will like star citizen'' .
that's unfair XD
And since i (suspect) will not like, even ''no man's sky'' i think i will build my own space game by myself once for all.
I have in mind an idea or two about it.. you must wait and see..
"Space game" is pretty wide term. "The best" is, of course, just your personal opinion
Well done. That still isn't Horizons.
How do you think businesses judge their products success and if they should expand/improve on it?
They look at sales and the platform they are selling it on, advertising and the most successful sales routes...
If Elite Dangerous had bombed do you think they would have bothered with Horizons?
If ED sales on steam were poor, do you think they would have bothered adding Horizons to Steam and paying valve a % of each sale
If 664 thousand people bought or activated Elite Dangerous via Steam , why wouldn't they buy the expansion in the same way?
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But this is what I'm trying to say. Your argument with regard to Horizons is based on your assumption. Which is fine, but I assume something different (some of the reasoning for which I gave above).
And no, I can't prove otherwise. Mine is just as much an assumption as yours. I'm assuming sensible people would go for the cheapest upgrade route. I've been wrong before... why immediately think ''if he doesn't like elite may be he will like star citizen'' .
that's unfair XD
And since i (suspect) will not like, even ''no man's sky'' i think i will build my own space game by myself once for all.
I have in mind an idea or two about it.. you must wait and see..
Wait and see? Never, I will start speculating right now!
"Space game" is pretty wide term. "The best" is, of course, just your personal opinion
Absolutely, thats pretty much my point. I think 'making a game that I enjoy' is sufficient to say devs work 'correctly'. I dont think 'making a game I dont enjoy' is sufficient to say they don't.
Yes, ofcourse. Steam gets paid per sale, so its irrelevant how many you sell. Its not about number of sales but additional sales, or sales that probably wouldnt have been without steam. Any additional sale is just free money.
But this is what I'm trying to say. Your argument with regard to Horizons is based on your assumption. Which is fine, but I assume something different (some of the reasoning for which I gave above).
Agree to disagree...
its a small negative minority that are up voting negative reviews.
also basing buying a game off steam reviews is almost as stupid basing it off of "actual" reviewers
I have played since Beta but found things got tedious a couple of months after launch last year. Stopped playing, but got horizons and gave it a go, now I find Horizons has the same lack of depth as ED. There is no Multiplayer to speak of and whilst you can have a go at everything nothing "opens" out in the game as a result of your actions. So you credit chase, buy new ships, credit chase etc....but the game does not change. IMHO PP and CQC are just diversions, FD should of put effort into giving the game more depth.
Based on your signature, would I be right that you are playing in Mobius? I do too. But only a very small percentage of the player base does. Multiplayer requires other players... E: D supports it, very much so. But you need friends to join you.