Anyone missing the Moray Starboat ?

[Iridium Nova]

Actually it is. But it's a video game - we can have all the space magic. Just don't sell this stuff as real facts.

Good point. We have a speed limit in space. It doesn't have to be totally realistic.

Except the specific impulse from the engines would seem to indicate that they are fusion drives, albeit small ones. The heat from the exhaust would instantly vaporise all the water it came into contact with. At the very least, this would create a bubble of water vapour around the ship causing a... spectacular loss of buoyancy. You'd basically boil your way down to the bottom of whichever ocean you happened to be in.Many of the ships have airfoils already - the Dropship, for example, or the Fer de Lance and the Adder. I'd expect them to handle much better in atmospheric flight than a T7, which is basically brick-shaped.

I think we could say that these problems would be remedied as part of the "atmospheric flight package", or whatever they end up calling it, which would likely be an upgrade to the planetary approach suite all ships now have. E may not be ultra-realistic when it comes to its flight model, but it does put in some effort to at least try to be immersive and believable. I can appreciate how they have chosen to err on the side of gameplay on numerous occasions, and the game's better for it in my opinion. I never expected it to be a full simulator. There are other "games" which are doing that and that's fine.

 

[tiger61378]

I'd imagine the Moray will appear when the Planetary Approach Suite is upgraded to allow landings on water worlds...after all, its designed to be in the water I just hope they go with a design that looks kinda like the Bebop from Cowboy Bebop with it:

 

[Luniticisi]

Nope /Thread




<this means this is a joke

 

[Thelan]

There are no known living aliens in the ED universe, unless you count the Unknown Artifacts, but nobody is sure yet what exactly those are.

Unknown Artifacts are Thargoid in origin.

 

[the100thmonkey]

Unknown Artifacts are Thargoid in origin.

Are they?

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Good point. We have a speed limit in space. It doesn't have to be totally realistic.



I think we could say that these problems would be remedied as part of the "atmospheric flight package", or whatever they end up calling it, which would likely be an upgrade to the planetary approach suite all ships now have. E may not be ultra-realistic when it comes to its flight model, but it does put in some effort to at least try to be immersive and believable. I can appreciate how they have chosen to err on the side of gameplay on numerous occasions, and the game's better for it in my opinion. I never expected it to be a full simulator. There are other "games" which are doing that and that's fine.

/Waves hand.

"These aren't the mechanics you're looking for."

 

[Iridium Nova]

Unknown Artifacts are Thargoid in origin.

As far as I know, nobody knows what they are yet. They certainly don't look very Thargoid, in my opinion. If I had to guess, I'd say they look more like the Mycoid weapon than any kind of Thargoid tech.

"These aren't the mechanics you're looking for."

We can only speculate at this point. I suppose anything's possible.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Except the specific impulse from the engines would seem to indicate that they are fusion drives, albeit small ones. The heat from the exhaust would instantly vaporise all the water it came into contact with. At the very least, this would create a bubble of water vapour around the ship causing a... spectacular loss of buoyancy. You'd basically boil your way down to the bottom of whichever ocean you happened to be in.Many of the ships have airfoils already - the Dropship, for example, or the Fer de Lance and the Adder. I'd expect them to handle much better in atmospheric flight than a T7, which is basically brick-shaped.

Not necessarily. A vapour bubble is used for "rocket torpedoes". The bubble reduces friction a lot so these things go incredibly fast underwater at the cost of manouverability. You'd have to create a decent bubble for a starship though - torpedoes are much smaller.

 

[Salami]

Question from a player that wasn't around at the time, just what exactly was it?
It looks nice.

Been looking into it, but all I get are Russian sites or Apache, Forbidden error.

 

[the100thmonkey]

Not necessarily. A vapour bubble is used for "rocket torpedoes". The bubble reduces friction a lot so these things go incredibly fast underwater at the cost of manouverability. You'd have to create a decent bubble for a starship though - torpedoes are much smaller.

That's a cavitation bubble though, caused by the bow/compression wave

 

[Bogen]

Ahah i see you resurrected my thread!!

At this point the "mighty" starboat deserves some pictures!!

Original "postcard":


Elite (wireframe):


Frontier Elite2/FFE:


Oolite (reimagined):


Oolite (retexture mod):



Hope you liked them!

 

[Krait_79]

Love to see the classics back, I don't feel that some of the new ships have much character. Krait, Moray and Wolf Mk2 would be fab.

Oh how i long for the day that FD decide to include all the missing classic ships!

 

[The_Quasar]

Would be nice to see the classics back, but, it'd also be really good to have a few all new ships too.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

That's a cavitation bubble though, caused by the bow/compression wave

Yes, but without some exhaust gas as "lubricant" I doubt you could hit the necessary speed with a starship.

 

[the100thmonkey]

Yes, but without some exhaust gas as "lubricant" I doubt you could hit the necessary speed with a starship.

I suspect it would require some pretty impressive HRPs to get a T7 supercavitating without basically breaking.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

I suspect it would require some pretty impressive HRPs to get a T7 supercavitating without basically breaking.

It's a bit like supercruise - only underwater. I'm smiling just when I think about the effects of interdiction.

 

[Witzo]

Will the Moray Star Boat introduce 'landing' on water planets?

 

[the100thmonkey]

Will the Moray Star Boat introduce 'landing' on water planets?

No idea mate.

We don't even know when water worlds will be introduced.

 

[Witzo]

No idea mate.

We don't even know when water worlds will be introduced.

Water planets at least could give the fins on my Asp a function as rudders.