UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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Lumpus

Lumpus
I also thought I read somewhere that (maybe not merope, but, i think) the pleaides was where the war started with thargs or where thargs first started appearing or something either in an older game or in lore. I am pretty sure I remember reading something about that.

What about Peregrina or similar system? Apparently it was a "plague" system and your ship would be targeted by any faction and marked as a plague ship if you enter the atmosphere. After some digging, someone commented that it is not longer a "plague" system, but they were also waiting for horizions to drop. Seems like something worth investigating.


Looks to me like there are some queues to be taken here guys.....
"The GalCop Navy manages to beat the Thargoid invasion back, a battle line is drawn, centred on sector 9,9. The Thargoids begin sending small reconnaissance fleets behind the battle line and deep into Human territory to survey various systems for later conquest and to raid commercial shipping."

"Massive fleets of Thargoid warships carrying remote controlled fighters ruthlessly cut a swathe into occupied human territory, encroaching on a cluster of stars centered around Alioth"

"Thargoids could be capable of building large artificial structures which could possibly be on a scale with planets" (merope?)

"that attacked critical materials in their hyperdrives, preventing the construction of interstellar vehicles." (possibly part of the meta-alloy thing)

"The Thargoids are also superior in the use of advanced AI and remote craft" (possible UA?)
 

Roganski

Roganski
Han_Zen said:
They are called meta alloys because the elements Are not evenly spread out in the mix. The different elements are placed strategicaly in the cell structure to give maximum strenght.

If you melt them, they become a regular alloy.
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Ah, that rings a bell - thanks. Still naturally occurring, though?
 

rizal72

rizal72
Julio Montega said:
Aren't the drills somewhat small and are concepted to do depth drilling,
rather than excavatory stuff?
I can not remember what event triggered the whole UA story to start with,
anyone here does know?



Eh? What? Why Tungsten?
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The event that triggered the UA story here in real life, was the Wings trailer.

I've personally destroyed dozens of those auto miners having the Meta-Alloys mission active. The most valuable item I've found was some rare Painite.

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Crassus said:
Hello everybody and a happy new year!

Just a thought: we are so focused on the idea, that the technical problems inside the stations are based on delivering UAs to them. What, if the barnacles are to be found inside the systems, that have technical problems? The only ingame signs, that point to special systems, are the technical issues ...

Best regards
Crassus

who cannot participate in searching on planets, because his old AMD hybrid graphics card displays planets in a totaly psychotic and scary way :/
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I've spent a couple days both in 49 and 64 Arietis, scouring their planets, while having the Meta-Alloys mission active. Nothing found.
 

Twisted Melon

Twisted Melon
rizal72 said:
The event that triggered the UA story here in real life, was the Wings trailer.

I've personally destroyed dozens of those auto miners having the Meta-Alloys mission active. The most valuable item I've found was some rare Painite.

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I've spent a couple days both in 49 and 64 Arietis, scouring their planets, while having the Meta-Alloys mission active. Nothing found.
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But dozens not hundreds, the game mechanics with the auto miners would lend itself to producing something "extremely rare" POI RNG material RNG
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
Like others, I am currently thinking that the UA is in fact the large barnacle that is "common in certain parts of space". But with the possibility that a much rarer ground based UA (possibly larger than the UAs found in space) is much rarer, and this is where the Meta-Alloys are. I'm currently on a long range exploratory voyage right now, so can't check for myself. I'm guessing that there might be a particular planet type/star type combination within the UA shell where there is a low % chance of them spawning (or on planets that spawn tungsten if Han-Zen is on to anything with the "life like metal" thing).

Happy to be wrong, but based on what we know so far, it's the only thing that (sort of) fits in my mind whilst stopping any contradictions in MB's comment and the Meta-Alloy market description.

yoda711 said:
I really think there is some pattern in the station list that FD wants us to find. Maybe it has something to do with the number of shut down stations since it specifically mentions 7? Maybe... I just plotted the first letter of the station and system similar to how we plot the ship triangles... i.e. Korolyov in Arawere becomes point "KA"... nothing discernible tho. Tinfoil hat firmly in place.

can someone please check lobachevsky in pic tok again? it is still listed as suspended but it was clearly working last I checked a couple days ago.

indeed, Obsidian is missing... hmm...
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I can't check on Lobachevsky in person, as I am currently over 9000ly away. However, chacking on the system map it does now appear to be down (docking is the only available facility, unlike after the last on eof these articles).
 
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TFW Primus

TFW Primus
EAGLE 5 said:
I get what you are saying but that seems way too specific.

Taking a logical approach to the search thanks to horizons we now have two distinct environments where to look.

Space and Planetary surfaces (on airless moons)... Space in itself has two distinct areas... Areas relative to celestial objects and deep space areas in between them. What really makes the difference in space is mainly heat and gravity.. how close are you to an object (mass-gravity) and how hot is this object case in point your ship gets hot when you're by a star and supercruise is affected by gravity. Plus now I've seen where gravity is pulling on wreckages toward the surface of a planet. Beyond that there really isn't a whole lot more to go on.

That brings me to planetside considerations... planets are different in size and composition. There are also other consideration like temperature and whether or not they are tidally locked. Past this there isn't much to go on.

We've been exploring some of the more significant systems grounded on Thargoid lore and so far not a whole lot has been discovered. I feel that the approach needs to be broadened some by looking more from the outside in. What I'm really trying to say is that expecting for something to happen in one specific spot of a specific place would be far too precise to be a RNG like your north pole example. That sounds more like manually injected content that can easily be missed. Somehow I don't think that is FD's goal.
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Agreed. I wasn't trying to suggest they would specifically be in one pole or the other, was just trying to use it as an example of how we could so easily be overlooking something. I think we are basically saying the same thing. I've been all around the outside of the habitable bubble looking for barnacles and whatnot. Spent lots of time on-planet but I can't rule anywhere out that I've been because I usually only land on one or two spots per planet (and not all planets per system) and there is a ridiculously large amount of area that I haven't covered.

If I wasn't having so much fun driving around these planets(moons) I'm sure I would be extremely frustrated at this point. That being said, it's getting pretty repetitive finding all the same types of POIs. I'm extremely surprised that I haven't had any missions pop up from the different POIs I've experieced, from escape pods to data points, etc.
 

irongut

irongut
yoda711 said:


Could be a bug, or it could be some kind of clue. Same could be said for the omission of Obsidian Orbital in Maia.
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It is a mistake in the summary list on GalNet. I recently went over the last 3 months of GalNet looking for all posts about station issues. Lobachevsky Outpost never announced services were suspended. Services were never suspended at Lobachevsky Outpost. But the twice that a summary has been posted on GalNet it was on the suspended list. If something had changed at Lobachevsky Outpost then yes it would be a clue but nothing has changed since they first experienced technical difficulties so it is a mistake by the author.

Obsidian Orbital being missing from the list could be a mistake, a retcon or a clue but I can't research it because there is something wrong with GalNet. The post about Lobachevsky Outpost on 2nd December has vanished as has the previous post that included a summary on 10th December. In fact most of December has dissapeared.
 
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dynamicbob

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irongut said:
It is a mistake in the summary list on GalNet. I recently went over the last 3 months of GalNet looking for all posts about station issues. Lobachevsky Outpost never announced services were suspended. Services were never suspended at Lobachevsky Outpost. But the twice that a summary has been posted on GalNet it was on the suspended list. If something had changed at Lobachevsky Outpost then yes it would be a clue but nothing has changed since they first experienced technical difficulties so it is a mistake by the author.

Obsidian Orbital being missing from the list could be a mistake, a retcon or a clue but I can't research it because there is something wrong with GalNet. The post about Lobachevsky Outpost on 2nd December has vanished as has the previous post that included a summary on 10th December. In fact most of December has dissapeared.
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About 5 weeks ago, my group sirius inc noticed that the sirius inc controlled station had suddenly lost its mutintions functions (thats the only faction) follow the url below to follow our UA selling experiments

The gropu has been conducting our own applied research. Nothing has retunred to functioning on that front. Iapodes lost i think its mutitions services as well. thats nearby. Everyone here is group thinking what cannon research says, so sometiems its good to search outside to see what other groups are doing ( including hudson and ALD firebombing each others stations)

No known cure exists yet and weve been selling all sorts of things to pic tok(lobachevsky outpost)
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
EAGLE 5 said:
"Large Barnacles" (whatever they may be)
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I think I would call them g enormous barnacles though. =p
 
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LordZoltan

LordZoltan
The somewhat vague description of the Barnacles in the 'meta alloy description, especially being confirmed as 'Alien' suggests to me also that the UAs themselves are the most likely link there - which would also suggest that UA-Bearing systems are the most likely place for Meta Alloys to be found on planet surfaces.

I think we should consider doing a mass 'scour' of one planet in a UA system, one that has some metal content or a ring around it - get as many people as possible farming POIs on that one planet for 12 hours straight, and see what we find?

On another note - Please allow me to draw your attention to Vingtetun latest addition to the Detective Shaw Canonn story on Hutton Orbital Radio - http://canonn.science/2016/01/03/canonn-on-hutton-radio-4/ - it's unsurprisingly really rather fantastic and will provide some light relief to anyone looking for a few minutes' break! :D
 

Lumpus

Lumpus
nice work

EDIT-looks like there are multiple reports
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=215154
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=219192
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212117
here is a video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqlzWAZztW4
aANnd i just saw this? possible fake? possible bug? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thAHCvEyIBo


looks like at least one other person was looking around in this area (i believe searching for UA's a while back) and maybe someone should ask him for more info?

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Well just to say I cannot do Biscuit Barrel today as I am currently 2700LY from the bubble for science. =p

I drew a line through the bubble, HR1185, California Sector and extrapolated onwards, not much beyond but there *is* a nebula called "Trifid of the North" - so that's where I am. =p

If you look in the galaxy map, it is a nebula with a really isolated stretch of stars. (that are a pain to get to due to the gap surrounding)
I've done one deployment at the star right near the nebula but nothing. =(
Not sure where to go from here, anyone have any ideas? I can't see anything, maybe head to the Heart and Soul nebula but that's a long way, the Sirius stations (Sothis, check it out) seem to generally point to H&S but beyond that I don't see why the H&S nebula would be of any significance.
There's the mission Obfuscated in the Outer Rim which kind of implies something out here, but here is a big old place. =(
It would be a shame to just come back now, anyone have any good/crazy/whatever ideas?
As an aside got some footage of a couple of pretty mad experiments before I left, nothing earth-shattering ;-) but quite amusing and it does prove something (that's probably actually not very useful) cannot upload yet, trying to sort YouTube out.
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Iridium Nova

Iridium Nova
I found a crashed nav beacon in the side of a cliff on Ariel. It was in a totally unreachable spot so I couldn't datascan it. I know, not really anything to write home about, but I stopped by there to check out those amazing canyons on my way out. They certainly seem like a good place to hide something (and pretty too), but from all the wrecks and rusted metal I've found littering the bottom of those canyons, it looks more like a good place to die. Nothing really interesting at all.

IMO, Ariel is a red herring. Nothing there but pretty scenery and death.
 
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