UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn
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It's entirely possible that they do NOT appear in POI's and have to be manually searched for, like crashed Anacondas. (Thanks to Obsidian Ant's recent video for this info)
Maybe. We don't know.
Ahoy CMDRs! Some Thoughts:
The Pleiades is an interesting star cluster - all the major stars in the cluster are moving together, and seem to have formed together, but the cloud of nebulosity they're moving through doesn't seem to be moving with them, OR related to their formation (from Wikipedia astronomy reading this past week). By this logic, some of the stars in the cluster are currently moving through the cloud, some have already finished moving through the cloud, and some have not/will not move through it. Given that the barnacle-entities prefer nebulae somehow, I'd be willing to bet that this could be used to narrow down the search a bit, on the system level.
I've also been paying attention to where and when the dusty-looking partial atmospheres of "volatiles" form - the fog you see on certain surfaces and in craters. So far, nothing over 900K seems to have this fog - Merope 2D, on the other hand, around 400-450K, has lots of it. I'm willing to bet there's a specific range of "fogginess" we're looking for, which is based on temperature and gravity.
Furthermore - and I don't have enough data on this one yet - I'm starting to suspect that on a number of worlds - Merope 2D in particular - the fog only seems to be thick on the daytime side of the planet. Combine that idea with the trailer footage... I think we might be looking for a greenish foggy crater, near the sunset terminus (sunset because it's in the already-heated part of the crust, where sunrise would be about-to-be-heated). I'm going to keep comparing temp, gravity, fogginess, and orbital period, and see which pieces of this hypothesis start to fall away.
If any of you have made observations that contradict what I've said, please share - because that's what science is all about!
The Pleiades is an interesting star cluster - all the major stars in the cluster are moving together, and seem to have formed together, but the cloud of nebulosity they're moving through doesn't seem to be moving with them, OR related to their formation (from Wikipedia astronomy reading this past week). By this logic, some of the stars in the cluster are currently moving through the cloud, some have already finished moving through the cloud, and some have not/will not move through it. Given that the barnacle-entities prefer nebulae somehow, I'd be willing to bet that this could be used to narrow down the search a bit, on the system level.
I've also been paying attention to where and when the dusty-looking partial atmospheres of "volatiles" form - the fog you see on certain surfaces and in craters. So far, nothing over 900K seems to have this fog - Merope 2D, on the other hand, around 400-450K, has lots of it. I'm willing to bet there's a specific range of "fogginess" we're looking for, which is based on temperature and gravity.
Furthermore - and I don't have enough data on this one yet - I'm starting to suspect that on a number of worlds - Merope 2D in particular - the fog only seems to be thick on the daytime side of the planet. Combine that idea with the trailer footage... I think we might be looking for a greenish foggy crater, near the sunset terminus (sunset because it's in the already-heated part of the crust, where sunrise would be about-to-be-heated). I'm going to keep comparing temp, gravity, fogginess, and orbital period, and see which pieces of this hypothesis start to fall away.
If any of you have made observations that contradict what I've said, please share - because that's what science is all about!
For now, the theory is that the barnacles are, like ship graveyards, unmarked POIs.
Of course none has been discovered yet, so, as they say: "your guess is as good as mine"
There is no evidence to suggest there are ever POI's with different colours, I don't know where you got this from. We are probably not looking for POI's at all, just looking with our eyes for something of a Barnacular nature.
How exactly have you confirmed this?
The barnacles are thargoid warships, why isn't anyone else seeing this?
Look:
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Thargoid_Warship_(Oolite)
and Elite on Amiga1200:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsuWgLEQBxM
Go to 2.35 where there's an ambush as soon as he comes out of jump - note the shape of the thargoid ship (it has plasma cannons by the way)
Sound fx have not aged well on that, plus notice how FAST it all is! (You think ED is hard?)
Finally google images 'thargoid warship' and open and shut case!
No one has ever even SEEN a Barnacle!!
How can you claim it's an open and shut case that it's a Thargoid warship? That's completely illogical.
Link to Obsidian Ant's video:https://youtu.be/uleF-nOHAK4?t=2m
He references begin able to see it at 2:00.
It seems the best way to find almost anything larger than a canister is to cruse the surface in your ship at 1.8km off the deck. You can see most larger POI's from there.
I doubt you can see them from super cruise. Orbital cruise, maybe... but probably not.
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No. Please don't do this, it's likely to result in the shutdown of a very useful station. The user who suggested that is not speaking in line with the consensus of the rest of this thread and associated groups, and has a history of trying to drag people off on different routes of his own devising.
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no, no, no and no again
Stop with this. MB said that there are some that have been placed by hand to be found, and others are generated. I think if you are only searching for static POI's with no blue circle, you might actually be LOWERING your odds of finding one.- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -
probably from someone who's had his HUD colors changed for too long.
Hypothesis:
The description says that meta-alloys melt in "high temps" and become regular metals. It also references them as being similar (in structure at least, I'm not sure about chemical comp) to foamed aluminum.
Aluminum melts at 660C. We should focus on planets that have an average surface temp below that. Even if it is a little more temperature resistant than Al, Steel melts around 1300-1600C depending on alloy, at that's the upper range of temperature resistant metals.
I don't know how relevant that is going to be though.
Just a thought.
The description says that meta-alloys melt in "high temps" and become regular metals. It also references them as being similar (in structure at least, I'm not sure about chemical comp) to foamed aluminum.
Aluminum melts at 660C. We should focus on planets that have an average surface temp below that. Even if it is a little more temperature resistant than Al, Steel melts around 1300-1600C depending on alloy, at that's the upper range of temperature resistant metals.
I don't know how relevant that is going to be though.
Just a thought.
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My way to search barnacles, www.twitch.tv/deltasnake , Barnacle Radio.
"Immersion breaking"
Although you can come to the same conclusion based on ObsidianAnt's video.
Also, now that I'm actually reading through the thread now, I love that some people are claiming that people don't need to search certain places because they already searched there, while other are claiming that we can't thoroughly search for fixed POIs because it would take infinity time and players. A task that would be great for a player who has Horizons (i.e. not me) would be to determine at what distance and speed they can actually spot a POI (using known fixed ship POIs in game) using that information we can get an actual number for whether there's any hope of searching a planet for fixed POIs using orbital search. I saw a quote of 3 hours to circle a planet. That's a long time but if it only takes 3 or 4 passes to see the whole surface, then that's less time than some spent searching through SSS's for UA convoys. So, if someone out there can get an estimate from how far away (vertical and horizontal distance) you can spot a fixed POI on a planet then we'd know.
Speaking of fixed and random POIs, I've also seen people quoting certain things about POIs from Michael Brookes that don't match up with what I remember reading. I believe he was referring to the barnacles when he said they can be found in both fixed and randomly generated locations (but maybe he didn't specifically mention barnacles in that one). I can't find the quote, but if someone can, please correct me. Perhaps we should have a list of pertinent MB quotes on the first page so people can stop misremembering things.
Speaking of fixed and random POIs, I've also seen people quoting certain things about POIs from Michael Brookes that don't match up with what I remember reading. I believe he was referring to the barnacles when he said they can be found in both fixed and randomly generated locations (but maybe he didn't specifically mention barnacles in that one). I can't find the quote, but if someone can, please correct me. Perhaps we should have a list of pertinent MB quotes on the first page so people can stop misremembering things.
no, no, no and no again
But not all Crashed ships are placed by hand, unless they are? In which my statement then becomes questionable.
Still, i'm 28,000 Ly away, heading back, entertain me please :/
If you are landing, no, however, if you launch from the surfice then you can be in SC just over 2km high, so it is possible that way. However OC is above 30km, and the only thing I have seen higher up were the big space ports/cities; smaller ones are only visible under 10km (size dependent probably).
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