What's happened to Robigo?

On a related note, I took a close look at the Robigo BB just now. It shows 13 available missions for me - 9 smuggling (shadow), 1 smuggling (non-shadow), 1 scrap, and 2 courier missions. I waited 10 minutes and refreshed the BB to get another 7 smuggling (shadow) missions. So, I don't have log in/out to get more than enough missions to fill my Asp cargo hold. Within a single BB refresh, the shadow missions add up to 38M for 79 tons of cargo. My Asp holds 96 tons. So, everyone frets and fumes about mode switching but I don't have to log in multiple times to earn a lot of money because I am an expert smuggler and know how to handle a cargo hold full of Fail-On-Scan missions through evasion and aggressive anti-scan tactics.

Ok probably a stupid question... I have been running trade missions for weeks and must have missed something. What is robigo? Shadow missions and where or how do k get them? I am currently in achenar.
 
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Pop psychology. Person A has a wonderful life - great job, lovely house, loving wife etc. Person B comes along and does the same job as person A but earns 4 times as much. Person A now hates his job and thinks the whole world is unfair. The only thing that changed was his awareness of person B.

Couldn't have said it better.
 
Human's...
It is well known that when they change anything in this game that you will cry.
There have been plenty of other things and the first, like automated response, is tears. You just can't help yourselves.

Here's the thing though, with change should spark an automatic reply in your brains (I sometimes laugh while thinking on that word, brains) to adapt or evolve (no, stroke evolve) but at the end of the day it is always the same.
Bad FD took my easy mode candy away.
I haz tears now.
*wub*

The more posts are made about the subject, the more likely they are gonna do something about it, just saying.

For the record, never been to Robigo, it's not on my radar because I play a different way. I would get bored doing the same thing time after time. I need a purpose and I go find and do.
I would , however, suggest that if you are only doing the same thing repeatedly then maybe you should look at other aspects of the game and stop thinking about credits.
I play in Open with an Asp Scout, I avoid confrontation and I have fun. I have 15m in the bank and 250m+ in resources.

I don't care how you play, but if you do the exact same thing repeatedly, then complain that the game is a grind, then I'd be that banana that would defy gravity and give you a kick up the patootie and tell you that there are far better ways to play this game than just the purely one-dimensional profiteering.

Do it if you must but there's more to this game than just cred making.
Join a minor faction for example, they can be fun.
:)
 
Ok probably a stupid question... I have been running trade missions for weeks and must have missed something. What is robigo? Shadow missions and where or how do k get them? I am currently in achenar.

The outpost Robigo Mines in the far out Robigo system, the Ocellus starport Obsidian Orbital in the Maia system at the heart of the Pleiades Nebula and Rangarajan's Base orbiting the giant blue star Canopus are known to spawn so-called "Shadow Delivery" missions on their bulletin boards. Those missions all lead to an area inside the bubble, several hundred lightyears away, and dare you to deliver illegal and/or stolen cargo there, often onto outposts, sometimes into stations.

On your way, you are frequently approached by the typical "I'm so glad I found you!" NPCs that spam you with comms, but often also cops spawn directly behind you and interdict immediately. Shadow Delivery missions fail when being scanned, so you have to avoid a successful security scan at all costs. Once arrived in the destination system, not only spamming NPCs and scanning cops pester you, but often pirates are spawned specifically to attack you.

If you manage to dodge all interdictions and, most importantly, scan attempts and dock successfully (heat sinks work against scan attempts), handing in such a mission can net you several million credits. Stacking such missions until your cargo hold is full may, upon successful delivery, result in a net win of more than two dozen millions.
 
Thank you very much for answering. Sounds fun and also like it would pay about right for all the trouble. I may try that tonight. Thanks again, have a great night.
 
What InMemoriamSirocco said, except the bit about the heat sinks - if a scan has started they have line of sight so they're not going to help.

So while I wait for the BB refresh, thoughts as a first time visitor:

I actually docked at Robigo last night, sold them the Lave cluster rares I'd bought with as a sweetener, plus the honk data gathered on the way. Not enough to get friendly with the Cartel of course, but a start. Not a vast amount available because of that, but one for 4.5m plus a couple in 1-3 region.
Will try and get 1 or 2 more, but there's not a lot of time on the first one I took so can't hang around too long.
There was a 1m mission for penniless which surprised me, but needed friendly status so not available.
Hopefully getting these safe home will bump me up rep wise.
 
The outpost Robigo Mines in the far out Robigo system, the Ocellus starport Obsidian Orbital in the Maia system at the heart of the Pleiades Nebula and Rangarajan's Base orbiting the giant blue star Canopus are known to spawn so-called "Shadow Delivery" missions on their bulletin boards.

Obsidian Orbital is another hub of this sort of activity?

I may have to go out that way for a visit. I brought in enough metals and computer components to choke an Anaconda to help get it built. I should at least go out and see the place!
 
Well that didn't go as planned!
2 jumps in - check comms, all clear - time for a scoop. Just as I decide that enough of a top up and line up for next jump, Pirate interdiction.

Now I know that many submit and boost, but it's just not in my instinct to do so, plus I can mostly win the mini game. When it doesn't glitch and send me into a bigger spin than I've ever seen before.
OK, then - boost boost and SC charging, just - and I mean a second before I jump, and authority ship turns up and insta-scans me.
No way it had time to finish, but failed all missions - seems it only has to start to toast 'em.
Boo! Hey ho lessons learned - do submit, and turn off report crimes...
 
Well that didn't go as planned!
2 jumps in - check comms, all clear - time for a scoop. Just as I decide that enough of a top up and line up for next jump, Pirate interdiction.

Now I know that many submit and boost, but it's just not in my instinct to do so, plus I can mostly win the mini game. When it doesn't glitch and send me into a bigger spin than I've ever seen before.
OK, then - boost boost and SC charging, just - and I mean a second before I jump, and authority ship turns up and insta-scans me.
No way it had time to finish, but failed all missions - seems it only has to start to toast 'em.
Boo! Hey ho lessons learned - do submit, and turn off report crimes...
OOOOHH, thanks for that reminder about report crimes.
 
Well that didn't go as planned!
2 jumps in - check comms, all clear - time for a scoop. Just as I decide that enough of a top up and line up for next jump, Pirate interdiction.

Now I know that many submit and boost, but it's just not in my instinct to do so, plus I can mostly win the mini game. When it doesn't glitch and send me into a bigger spin than I've ever seen before.
OK, then - boost boost and SC charging, just - and I mean a second before I jump, and authority ship turns up and insta-scans me.
No way it had time to finish, but failed all missions - seems it only has to start to toast 'em.
Boo! Hey ho lessons learned - do submit, and turn off report crimes...



Security jumps in a lot whether you have report crimes on or not.Wait till you run into one boosting away when it magically appears in front of you , and it effectively stops you in your tracks.
I'm starting to think it's been coded in to make boosting, either to a station or outpost, or to escape, a little more difficult. Really no need to appear directly in front of you.
 
I haven't done enough Robigo runs to know for sure, but I have found that if I stack around 6 shadow missions in a Cobra III then it is an absolute cake walk - practically no one bothers you so you don't even have to know all the smuggling tricks. Between around 6 - 9 in an Asp you get a reasonable amount of interference. Between about 10 - 15 in an Asp you get plagued like a Pharaoh who won't release the Jews. Non stop NPC mission changers, pirates, bounty hunters, cops - you get the idea. Then I tried stacking about 30 in a Python. It was possibly the most hilarious thing I have seen in ED. Every time you go anywhere your radar lights up like 4th July practically instantly. Several ships interdicting you simultaneously and almost always more than 1 ship trying to scan you when you drop into normal space. Failed 4 due to time out as the python is just so much slower than the Cobra and Asp, but delivered the rest ok (although I went against my self imposed rule of no violence against authorities - had to go all out American - shoot first, don't bother with questions later)
 
Security jumps in a lot whether you have report crimes on or not.Wait till you run into one boosting away when it magically appears in front of you , and it effectively stops you in your tracks.
I'm starting to think it's been coded in to make boosting, either to a station or outpost, or to escape, a little more difficult. Really no need to appear directly in front of you.

NPC ships are magic, remember? Which explains how a System Security Viper Mk3 was gaining on my A-rated Cobra Mk3 yesterday while I was boosting in a straight line away from him...
 
Just dont get greedy. Larger ships tend to be too slow and too big and you end up with waste of time and effort.
 
anyone notice slaves are no more illegal in robigo.

Probably because the cartel now has dominant power thanks to the trade they've been getting? DK what it was like before as it's my first time there.

Anyway, with the now consumed dinner which limited my 2nd attempt to a stack of three out of the way, the toppest top tip out of all that I'd heard of but hadn't yet tried has to be the bottom towards the sun trick.
Nothing like as scary or hot as I'd imagined it to be, and the scanner even gives you a Galaga like traction beam indicator behind you once you're lined up right.
Biting my nails on the first one - is this really going to work?
Oh yeah, it works a treat! So did the next three. :D
Immensely gratifying to have you pursuers plop into the sun while you sit there and grin. Almost tempted to swear just to make a load more smiley faces.
 
At my current Entrepreneur trade rank, I'm making on average $10Million / Hr, which is Par per the course for trading in a cutter.

You know, I didn't grind up the rank when it was easy - it's a lot harder now. Imbalance!!!! I claim imbalance, because you have a 700t cutter and me just a lowly 436t Anaconda. You're ruining the trade routes! SOMEONE MUST NERF YOU!
 
Missed the pre-cap rares, missed the seeking luxuries, too dire at combat (especially pre HOTAS) to get the kill dread pirates stuff done before they could wing up.
Got a Clipper when the rank was relaxed and now, finally, with my Gamma save - which was supposed to be such an unfair headstart - I have a Python.
I'm just popping out to the garden to flog myself with Lemon tree branches for being such a filthy exploiter.
 
Missed the pre-cap rares, missed the seeking luxuries, too dire at combat (especially pre HOTAS) to get the kill dread pirates stuff done before they could wing up.
Got a Clipper when the rank was relaxed and now, finally, with my Gamma save - which was supposed to be such an unfair headstart - I have a Python.
I'm just popping out to the garden to flog myself with Lemon tree branches for being such a filthy exploiter.

You got a Clipper when the rank requirement was reduced; I wasn't playing the game yet and thusly missed the opportunity. I will have to work harder to get the Clipper than you did.

I demand that you and your cheat/exploit Clipper be nerfed right now! Imbalanced! You having a Clipper through rank reduction completely inhibits my ability to play the game the way I want to!
 
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... the toppest top tip out of all that I'd heard of

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Immensely gratifying to have you pursuers plop into the sun while you sit there and grin. Almost tempted to swear just to make a load more smiley faces.

I discovered something similar - I scoop on-the-run, circling the star, and often the pursuing ships would end up in the sun trying to follow me. I'll have to try your method also. For The Lulz!
 
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