Help me choose a ship.

[Kostasliv]

Hi everyone.

I want your help to decide what ship to get.
I want to do bounty hunting with it (PvE).

Right now i have a Vulture A rated but i want something new.
I am thinking one of these for an upgrade.... Federal Assault Ship (FAS), Fer De Lance (FDL), and the python.
Which one does the job better in your opinion (don't say conda don't have the budget for it )

Thank you for your help in advance

 

[CAPT. Ho Chi Minge]

For a combat python its gonna set you back around $300m and a nice insurance job close to $10m+ ... i i do hear alot of good things about tge FAS and FDL , though these are depending on your combat requirements ...


The FAS is a great silent runner armour tank and handles well , The FDL is a shield fighter with weak armour (though i hear FA off is a must).

 

[Ydiss]

For a combat python its gonna set you back around $300m and a nice insurance job close to $10m+ ... i i do hear alot of good things about tge FAS and FDL , though these are depending on your combat requirements ...


The FAS is a great silent runner armour tank and handles well , The FDL is a shield fighter with weak armour (though i hear FA off is a must).

Basically this.

Fas is my favorite ship. But it's great because it can take a severe beating once the shields are down (and they will go doen). The fdl has tougher shields. Up to you really.

 

[Spudulika]

So many choices, all depends on your play style really. I use a FGS almost exclusively now for anything combat related, they handle better than the stats suggest (especially with a hotas setup), pack a hell of a punch and has good shields and really good armour tanking capabilities.

IMHO in combat the FGS will out perform a python in combat for a third of the cost and as the poster above has stated, I have heard nothing but good things about the FAS and the FDL (particularly since 1.5 as prior to then, it required a lot of energy management)

 

[biohazard15]

For a combat python its gonna set you back around $300m and a nice insurance job close to $10m+ ... i i do hear alot of good things about tge FAS and FDL , though these are depending on your combat requirements ...


The FAS is a great silent runner armour tank and handles well , The FDL is a shield fighter with weak armour (though i hear FA off is a must).

If you want your FDL to be a shield tank, install 5A shield (use prismatic if you have one) and at least four A-class shield boosters. Also, arm it with 4 C2 multicannons and C4 cannon. Fly it with 4 pips in shields and 2 pips in weapons. You can add couple of C4 SCBs. Do not install armor - it's overpriced and not really effective. That's the option I use.
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FAS, on the other side, benefits from armor. It's possible (and actually effective) to fly it without shields - it allows you to install some power-hungry weapons like beams.
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Python, IMO, is not a combat ship but a heavily-armed transport. It isn't really agile and tends to overheat. It is also way more expensive.

 

[Brimstone]

OP what is your budget? All you've really told us is that you can't afford an Anaconda, which a proper combat spec would set you back 600+ million credits.


If it were between the FDL, Python, or FAS, I'd chose the FAS for fun and the Python for serious business.

 

[CAPT. Ho Chi Minge]

If you want your FDL to be a shield tank, install 5A shield (use prismatic if you have one) and at least four A-class shield boosters. Also, arm it with 4 C2 multicannons and C4 cannon. Fly it with 4 pips in shields and 2 pips in weapons. You can add couple of C4 SCBs. Do not install armor - it's overpriced and not really effective. That's the option I use.
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FAS, on the other side, benefits from armor. It's possible (and actually effective) to fly it without shields - it allows you to install some power-hungry weapons like beams.
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Python, IMO, is not a combat ship but a heavily-armed transport. It isn't really agile and tends to overheat. It is also way more expensive.

Yeh exactly my thoughts on the python also , i have one A rated python mothballed in cubeo.

 

[Rorkan]

You can get a massively powerful FAS for about 70 million, it's cheaper than either the FDL or Python and just as or more effective than both.

It's truly a monster.

P.S.: Like this
P.P.S.: If you add Military armor and buy it all at Li Yong-Rui, you will pay about 70 mil

http://coriolis.io/outfit/federal_assault_ship/06A6A5A5D6A4A4C1e1e7i7i04040404B22d2b2t27f2.AwRj4yqA.EwBhEYy7vOyA?bn=RES%20Hunter%20No%20Armor

 

[Ian Skippy]

For a combat python its gonna set you back around $300m and a nice insurance job close to $10m+ ... i i do hear alot of good things about tge FAS and FDL , though these are depending on your combat requirements ...


The FAS is a great silent runner armour tank and handles well , The FDL is a shield fighter with weak armour (though i hear FA off is a must).

http://coriolis.io/outfit/fer_de_lance/26A5A4A4A6A4A3C---------04044a2b2b5325.Iw18aQ==.Aw18aQ==

Weak armor is a bit too strongly worded I think...

 

[Fendalton]

For PvE, anything.

Probably Python for the versatility.

 

[biohazard15]

You can get a massively powerful FAS for about 70 million, it's cheaper than either the FDL or Python and just as or more effective than both.

It's truly a monster.

Did you count 15% discount in LYR's systems? Shenich (Wafer Terminal) has FAS and a nice choice of A-rated modules for it. Not sure about FDL, though - it was ages since I've seen one on sale, especially with all the new ships.

 

[Rorkan]

Did you count 15% discount in LYR's systems? Shenich (Wafer Terminal) has FAS and a nice choice of A-rated modules for it. Not sure about FDL, though - it was ages since I've seen one on sale, especially with all the new ships.

Note my P.P.S. on the post.

 

[EUS]

Some find the Python good for combat, I'm not one of them, even with 6a shields and boosters, I find the shields melt quickly, and then the canopy goes quickly too.
FAS is my newest acquisition, very natural step up from the Vulture.
I'd love to try the FdL, but I could only choose between that and the FAS, flipped a coin, and the FAS won.

 

[biohazard15]

Note my P.P.S. on the post.

This one is better IMO:
http://coriolis.io/outfit/federal_a....AwRj4yqA.EwBhEYy7vOyA?bn=RES Hunter No Armor

 

[TigerTen]

When I decided to get a hand gun, I put on a blind fold and my friend place some hand guns on a table. I pick up each one until I got one that felt right. It works the same with ships, pick what feels right - no one can pick your ship but you. View attachment 94248My Cobra - V - Anaconda, I win most of the time !!!

 

[nosleepdemon]

Well, it's harmless...

 

[Troa Barton]

FDL if you want a better version of the vulture. FAS if you plan on going anywhere.

 

[DragoonKnight]

For a combat python its gonna set you back around $300m and a nice insurance job close to $10m+ ... i i do hear alot of good things about tge FAS and FDL , though these are depending on your combat requirements ...


The FAS is a great silent runner armour tank and handles well , The FDL is a shield fighter with weak armour (though i hear FA off is a must).

300 Million can get you a combat outfitted Conda. There is no rule that a Combat Conda must have Military Armor and an 8A Powerplant. Nor do you need 4000 armor to survive a haz res.
Python turns like a barge. Skip it unless you plan on trading with it.
I would suggest the FAS as the upgrade to the Vulture.
For the record I own an FDL, FAS, Clipper, Conda, and used to own a Python.

 

[Jerakeen]

There appears to have been a silent nerf on the Python recently. My fully A rated one used to be all but invincible but now I'm finding that I have to run away a lot more than I used to.

The FdL pre 1.5 was a waste of space. Not enough power to protect itself against a well armed opponent and a very average loadout with just the 4 medium points being effective at all against smaller craft as the lack of choice in class 4 weapons meaning that the huge slot is only effective against big ships and even then only at point blank range. Since 1.5 the increase in the power module has enabled it to become a decent shield tank and a decent tool for the HazRES.

The FGS has been a bit of a surprise for me. A friend suggested that I try one with Biweave shields and loads of hull reinforcements and that makes it a very effective weapon. You don't need to run away as soon as your shields go down because the hull can take it (especially if you fit mil spec bulkheads) and the shields come back up pretty quickly (although not as quickly as NPC Anacondas for some reason)

Just going off at a tangent though someone posted a build for a Viper Mk4 yesterday which has an insane amount of armour. I fitted one out last night and it is very effective and only costs about 7 million fully fitted.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=220746&page=3&p=3402781&viewfull=1#post3402781

 

[Bomba Luigi]

If you want to focus on Combat I would not take the Python. Not that it is bad in Combat but the other two are better and are cheaper to fully kit out.

FAS or FDL, well that depends. Both do the job equaly good and I like both a lot, but the question is what do you like more? The FDL is more about shields, he has amazing strong shields - and not so good hull. FAS on the other hand has terrible shields but that thing can hull tank a Supernova.
Hardpoints and there placement is also very diffrent on those two, but its again more about what you like more since to me all in all they are about equaly good. The most important question probably is: Do you like Hughe Plasma? If yes the FDL may be your perfect ship, if no and would just put a class 3 laser or something like that in that slot you probably better off with the FAS.