PROPOSAL FOR : Player to player missions / Trade run escorts / Pirate ransoms

[cherniq]

On the trading theme , I just think of a proposal for escorts for trading runs. I'd like to hear your opinion:
There is a heated discussion for gold sellers if the money transfer between players is allowed.
My proposal is very simple and think will make "gold" selling irrelevant :
Simply make a contract for escort for a % of the profit. Lets say I offer you 4 % , you ask for 5 % we agree and I "propose"/give you a mission for escort.
When I make the sell at the target port you automatically receive your % because the "deal"/trade run is over.
Doing that I cannot offer you 10 mil. credits for 5 ly jump and trade run with 1000 cr profit. That way if I wanna sell "gold" the buyer have to accompany me for hours even days to be worth at all. By that point I got an escort , he got credits and if he's dumb enough to pay real money for that I'll be stunned .
So you just make possible to me to issue missions on my wingmates ( only wingmates - because if pirate interdicts you and "ransom" you for % profit he become your escort for the rest of the trip - win win if you ask me. This is the way to be a "kind' kind of pirate ( see what I did there ).

Fly safe CMDRs

CMDR Cherniq out

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

On the trading theme , I just think of a proposal for escorts for trading runs. I'd like to hear your opinion:
There is a heated discussion for gold sellers if the money transfer between players is allowed.
My proposal is very simple and think will make "gold" selling irrelevant :
Simply make a contract for escort for a % of the profit. Lets say I offer you 4 % , you ask for 5 % we agree and I "propose"/give you a mission for escort.
When I make the sell at the target port you automatically receive your % because the "deal"/trade run is over.
Doing that I cannot offer you 10 mil. credits for 5 ly jump and trade run with 1000 cr profit. That way if I wanna sell "gold" the buyer have to accompany me for hours even days to be worth at all. By that point I got an escort , he got credits and if he's dumb enough to pay real money for that I'll be stunned .
So you just make possible to me to issue missions on my wingmates ( only wingmates - because if pirate interdicts you and "ransom" you for % profit he become your escort for the rest of the trip - win win if you ask me. This is the way to be a "kind' kind of pirate ( see what I did there ).

Fly safe CMDRs

CMDR Cherniq out[/COLOR]

For those who have white background. Lol

Good idea though.

 

[Talarin]

Was wondering why the OP was blank...

I like the concepts but it would be very open to abuse...

 

[cherniq]

Was wondering why the OP was blank...

I like the concepts but it would be very open to abuse...

I think you have to be in the station no fire area to accomplish the mission so no exploits of the kind I accept and were never near you the hole time.

How do you think it can get exploited ?
That's why I make the thread , my idea is just alfa - it sure need more than my opinion. Pls give yours more thoroughly. Thank you.


CMDR Cherniq

 

[Kazacy]

And what if i take the player missions and take a bigger part of the pie aka robing the trader? Not to mention personally i prefer to not rob commanders, just kills. In this way a fed can kill a lot of slavers for example (which is good in my book).

 

[cherniq]

And what if i take the player missions and take a bigger part of the pie aka robing the trader? Not to mention personally i prefer to not rob commanders, just kills. In this way a fed can kill a lot of slavers for example (which is good in my book).

Pirate interdicts you ,ask for ransom , you say Yes and run . You take the mission and kill the player you got nothing than bounty - it's the same as note bother asking for escort mission at all.


CMDR Cherniq

 

[Kazacy]

Pirate interdicts you ,ask for ransom , you say Yes and run . You take the mission and kill the player you got nothing than bounty - it's the same as note bother asking for escort mission at all.


CMDR Cherniq

Indeed for the trader it's not worth to bother to ask for escort. For the killer, in this universe when sometimes it's very hard to find another enemy commander to kill, it's worth to take the mission and kill the enemy commander
Like i said before, credits are not the only goal in this game, in my opinion having a good time it's way better.

 

[cherniq]

Indeed for the trader it's not worth to bother to ask for escort. For the killer, in this universe when sometimes it's very hard to find another enemy commander to kill, it's worth to take the mission and kill the enemy commander
Like i said before, credits are not the only goal in this game, in my opinion having a good time it's way better.

I want escort with cargo for 12-15 mil. not to mention the ship cost.
And you mention fun ..... YEAH I have fun flying around with my friends. Like I sad give a suggestions to improve the idea, don't turn it in this pls.
It is idea for an OPTION to the game you can make what ever you want , just like now. It's not ok to combat log but people do it - it's your choice how to play mate. But tell me why it's not ok for us who what to play coop with other people make OUR adventure.
One more thing , NPC-s are on my tail at least 3-4 times on one run , so I need escort in that case and I want for him to get paid at the end.

CMDR Cherniq

 

[Kazacy]

I want escort with cargo for 12-15 mil. not to mention the ship cost.
And you mention fun ..... YEAH I have fun flying around with my friends. Like I sad give a suggestions to improve the idea, don't turn it in this pls.
It is idea for an OPTION to the game you can make what ever you want , just like now. It's not ok to combat log but people do it - it's your choice how to play mate. But tell me why it's not ok for us who what to play coop with other people make OUR adventure.
One more thing , NPC-s are on my tail at least 3-4 times on one run , so I need escort in that case and I want for him to get paid at the end.

CMDR Cherniq

You clearly doesn't understand me. I blame my poor english. Of course it's ok to have your missions, i just point the flaws in your system, and believe me a lot of people will exploit this flaws if your idea will be implemented.

 

[cherniq]

You clearly doesn't understand me. I blame my poor english. Of course it's ok to have your missions, i just point the flaws in your system, and believe me a lot of people will exploit this flaws if your idea will be implemented.

What flaws ? You mention you can rob the trader - how is that flaw ? If you do it you failed the mission , your rep goes down , you got bounty on your head ( just like it is now the normal piracy ).
Give you explanation another go

 

[Kazacy]

What flaws ? You mention you can rob the trader - how is that flaw ? If you do it you failed the mission , your rep goes down , you got bounty on your head ( just like it is now the normal piracy ).
Give you explanation another go

Maybe because i want bounty on my head, and reputation go down............... with who? The killed trader? Of course it goes down

 

[cherniq]

Maybe because i want bounty on my head, and reputation go down............... with who? The killed trader? Of course it goes down

Ok , I see you don't wanna have a discussion at all. No problem but pls don't spam so we can have constructive thing here.

Thank you.

CMDR Cherniq

 

[Kazacy]

How do you think it can get exploited ?
That's why I make the thread , my idea is just alfa - it sure need more than my opinion. Pls give yours more thoroughly. Thank you.


CMDR Cherniq

You asked for exploits; i just write down my opinion here.

 

[cherniq]

You asked for exploits; i just write down my opinion here.

Ok then , I'm allied with federation , you screw me over and kill me. You take "special" attention in federal space coss the bad rap sheet. Let say if you kill me it's normal piracy , but if you accept the contract and broke it imidietly you have that on record and it is visible after scan.

And I ask you for constructive opinion , you just sit and - This will not work for that - I answer. But this will not work for that either - I answer again and like that how many times now ?!
My point was , you say this will not work for that , why don't we make it like this so in the end we have the idea grows. I'm far from saying my proto idea is perfect. Thats the hole point mate. To discus , not just to say IT WILL NOT WORK !
That's the thing i politely ask you and I do it again.

CMDR Cherniq

 

[Kazacy]

Ok then , I'm allied with federation , you screw me over and kill me. You take "special" attention in federal space coss the bad rap sheet. Let say if you kill me it's normal piracy , but if you accept the contract and broke it imidietly you have that on record and it is visible after scan.

And I ask you for constructive opinion , you just sit and - This will not work for that - I answer. But this will not work for that either - I answer again and like that how many times now ?!
My point was , you say this will not work for that , why don't we make it like this so in the end we have the idea grows. I'm far from saying my proto idea is perfect. Thats the hole point mate. To discus , not just to say IT WILL NOT WORK !
That's the thing i politely ask you and I do it again.

CMDR Cherniq

Can you please point me where i say your idea it will not work? Like i said before i just pointed some flaw. This flaw is my opinion and maybe for you this is not a flaw, maybe this is your design.
Back to my opinion, personally i will be very glad for a proposition like this, because like i said before, it will make my job to find enemy commanders easiest in the game.
Thank you, that is all from me, i won't answer more because, like i said before i blame my poor english.

 

[cherniq]

Can you please point me where i say your idea it will not work? Like i said before i just pointed some flaw. This flaw is my opinion and maybe for you this is not a flaw, maybe this is your design.
Back to my opinion, personally i will be very glad for a proposition like this, because like i said before, it will make my job to find enemy commanders easiest in the game.
Thank you, that is all from me, i won't answer more because, like i said before i blame my poor english.

I see you are interested in braking the law. Give it a go and think for the idea I gave and how to improve it - yes even how to violate the rules and what kind of punishment will make you think twice ( not discourage you from doing it ). I'm interested of your perspective

Thank you ( I'm sorry if I overreacted a little ). And "my design" is just occur to me last night when I got NPC interdiction membership card for some bizarre reason and was with a Friend in coms helping him out ( he just starts). So it's really just a proto idea and I hope with help to catch the devs eye and give them our collective point of view.


CMDR Cherniq

 

[Brigand]

I'd love to play this kind of mission.

At the moment, I feel that you'd be much better off running a wing with 2 multipurpose combat/traders rather than a dedicated hauler & a dedicated fighter. Elite seems to favour multipurpose at the moment.

 

[cherniq]

I'd love to play this kind of mission.

At the moment, I feel that you'd be much better off running a wing with 2 multipurpose combat/traders rather than a dedicated hauler & a dedicated fighter. Elite seems to favour multipurpose at the moment.

Yep for alone player it is like this.

I got into mining at first with sidewinder and then got back when they introduce limpets. With the type-6 I was making 1-1,5 mil a run (about hour hour and a half ). But it was my way of chilling after work , just shooting asteroids.
Now I was bored from Hires sites and wanted to do something else and a friend with a type-9 needed help , he take a refuel limpet so I can accompany him and later that night I got my type-9 from mining loadout to trader it occur to me this fuel limpets are part of something that is missing in the game right now

CMDR Cherniq