UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

[TheDeathsHead]

Out of curiosity, are you guys searching with a UA in your cargohold?

I have seen mine roll up hill when dropped, how long do they last again out of the buggy/ship?

 

[Cmdr Edard]

I've now gone halfway across Maia A 2 B along the equator with nothing to report other than finding Taaffeite at a mining facility.

When it comes to the whole barnacles filtering "neutrients" from the nebula gas angle I think this is looking in the wrong direction. IMO they're called barnacles because that's what they look like (see exhibit A: Horizons trailer), not because of being otherwise identical with earth-barnacles. We know they like nebulae. From what I understand nebulae have a high density of "interesting" materials. These materials are primarily found in the planets rather than in the nebula dust. (The science here is probably inaccurate, I'm "paraphrasing"). Others have theorized that barnacles "mine" planets of materials and as part of an organic process turn these into meta-materials, I agree with this. This tells me we should look at high-metal planets in nebulae with a high occurance of specific materials. The question is which materials?

My suggestion of a methodical approach would be mapping the occurance of rare materials on planets in the Meirope nebula. To start with a narrow band we could limit it to 100% metal planets and only materials from metallic meteorites. What do you guys think, any of this making sense?

A couple of us started doing this. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ligUFw79RnXmPPH0H8TAw/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

 

[CMDR Corlas]

I've now gone halfway across Maia A 2 B along the equator with nothing to report other than finding Taaffeite at a mining facility.

When it comes to the whole barnacles filtering "neutrients" from the nebula gas angle I think this is looking in the wrong direction. IMO they're called barnacles because that's what they look like (see exhibit A: Horizons trailer), not because of being otherwise identical with earth-barnacles. We know they like nebulae. From what I understand nebulae have a high density of "interesting" materials. These materials are primarily found in the planets rather than in the nebula dust. (The science here is probably inaccurate, I'm "paraphrasing"). Others have theorized that barnacles "mine" planets of materials and as part of an organic process turn these into meta-materials, I agree with this. This tells me we should look at high-metal planets in nebulae with a high occurance of specific materials. The question is which materials?

My suggestion of a methodical approach would be mapping the occurance of rare materials on planets in the Meirope nebula. To start with a narrow band we could limit it to 100% metal planets and only materials from metallic meteorites. What do you guys think, any of this making sense?

I think if it's not some sort of "filter feeding" thing (biological mechanism or not), our next best thing to look at in regards to nebulae would be what causes them and what they leave behind: primarily (but I do not think always) supernovae and black holes.

 

[Von Shadow]

Joining in tonight.... should get a couple hours searching in most evenings this week.... happy to be dictated on where to go if anything comes up

 

[zero-fill]

Frontier Support replied to a reddit thread about possible crashes when getting near a Barnacle POI. They didn't confirm that the crashes are related to Barnacle POIs but did say fixes were being lined up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/40mqq3/is_the_barnacle_search_broken_i_would_not_waste/cyvmu6s

We are aware of some of the crashes that happen around POI's so there are some fixes lined up that will hopefully catch most if not all of these.
Having said that DO please keep sending the automatic crash reports and DO keep reporting these crashes on our forums in the bug reports section. That way our QA team will have plenty to do and hopefully we can catch anything else that is causing crashes that we haven't fixed yet.
I hope we will be able to release a patch with these fixes soon.
Cheers,
CMDR Falcon

 

[DiddleDum]

That's very interesting! it's deadcenter!
probably the white in the mittle is the sun? ( just thinking out loud now)

We should probably look a little bit more in this.

I'm running two tests right now. The first is the "barnacle spawns point at Merope". I've selected Merope and am traversing the moon until it is directly overhead, which should narrow the search down to a few thousand square KM (also, provided I'm on the right moon - flying around Maya B1Ba)

The second test will be the "dead center" approach. When you pull up a planet surface map, it always defaults at the same reference. On this map, you can see I'm nearing the opposite side. But if I were to turn and get my ship in the "dead center" reticle, we might be on to something. I'll head there and get coords. Then, we can try other moons.




Now, the question becomes - is it dead center on the planet, or dead center with elevated view (since section PR5 is one row up from the courtside seating)? I'll try both.

 

[besieger]

Watch out CMDR's there are some player killers out tonight, ASP's with Rails... 2 CMDRs dead already. I am out in a corvette let me know if you need assistance.

EDIT: Make that Anaconda and ASP's... CMDR Comrade & CMDR Daylightm

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Agreed. Very grateful for the explanation of game mechanics; barnacles not visible from super cruise, will load if you're in ship or SRV, etc, but actual hints should be limited to GalNet news and in-game means.

Well, since the whole universe seems to be inputting into this thread now, perhaps MB has decided we are Galnet2

 

[Cynaqq]

Frontier Support replied to a reddit thread about possible crashes when getting near a Barnacle POI. They didn't confirm that the crashes are related to Barnacle POIs but did say fixes were being lined up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/40mqq3/is_the_barnacle_search_broken_i_would_not_waste/cyvmu6s

I don't think these are directly related to barnacle POIs but rather POI generation in general.

 

[CarnbY]

A couple of us started doing this. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ligUFw79RnXmPPH0H8TAw/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

Excellent, thanks! There's been so many people posting links to spreadsheets mapping various things I've completely lost track. I'll focus on helping you guys with this from now on then

When it comes to the Staples Center clue, is there anything at all connecting it to barnacles? I'll bet 5 tea canisters it's a red herring.

 

[Bluwolfe]

Watch out CMDR's there are some player killers out tonight, ASP's with Rails... 2 CMDRs dead already. I am out in a corvette let me know if you need assistance.

EDIT: Make that Anaconda and ASP's... CMDR Comrade & CMDR Daylightm

Sounds like their ships may have barnacles on them which need to be removed by force...

 

[CMDR Runcible Shaw]

I meant to say earlier, I just found out that I can actually run Horizons on my dinky little Mac Mini so I might join up with you guys searching planets in the Pleiades and/or other nebulae later this week (have to trek back from Sag A* first).

 

[Poy]

Alright, I'm going to Pleione's 6 poles, see if I can provoke a crash.

 

[Chriscole]

why? because the stadium this references has an ice RINK ? It iss also used for basketball games.

The planet being the playing field, the rings the seats. If the ring of the planet indicaties the latitude we'd have to search and the seats give us the longtitude, just spitballin'.

 

[nosscar]

Excellent, thanks! There's been so many people posting links to spreadsheets mapping various things I've completely lost track. I'll focus on helping you guys with this from now on then

When it comes to the Staples Center clue, is there anything at all connecting it to barnacles? I'll bet 5 tea canisters it's a red herring.

I would think the eye message pop up is a strong hint, if it is connected at all, it could be THE clue to the planet where a barnacle was placed. Otherwise it is a strange message to have in game.

 

[John Stoutbeard]

IRL nebula and Pleiades are not linked directly. Pleiades just fly through this nebula. It is reflection nebula, not a star remnant nebula. However we are not irl.

The article you have found is about Wolf-Rayet stars.

It's very hard to extract material from nebula because it's very sparse. Material probably will not fall to planets because of strong solar wind from B-type star. You need a big spacecarft to collect material. It's much more easy to extract needed materials from a planet.

Why nebulas? They attract explorers and give you light at nighttime. You can hide something very big and bright in big and bright nebula. What else?

Ok, running with that logic for bit. Maybe I get it wrong, I hope you can help me with this logic.
Just in case they actually thought about these kind of environmental factors when they implemented the barnacles.

Reference article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebular_hypothesis

Choosing a system
If they 'feed' of something in the nebulea, which again be stellar remnants, correct?
If that happens to be particles, remains, where to find more of it?
Optimal conditions?
- T Tauri (proto), "T Tauri-like protostar is still contracting, gaseous material may still be falling onto it, accreting on its surface from the disk's inner edge"
You want to avoid heavier stars and systems who have larger bodies, because they have already accrued more material, leaving less remains in the system.
Or rather, how young T Tauri can we find in this nebula?

This birth of a new star occurs approximately 100,000 years after the collapse begins.[1] Objects at this stage are known as Class I protostars,[9] which are also called young T Tauri stars, evolved protostars, or young stellar objects.[9] By this time the forming star has already accreted much of its mass: the total mass of the disk and remaining envelope does not exceed 10–20% of the mass of the central YSO.
At the next stage the envelope completely disappears, having been gathered up by the disk, and the protostar becomes a classical T Tauri star. This happens after about 1 million years.

From the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_Tauri_star

T Tauri stars are the youngest visible F, G, K, M spectral type stars (<2 M☉).

EDIT: Can't really say t-Tauri have that many planets. Seems like 9/10 systems have no celestial at all.
Bummer.



Metal-content vs Non-metallic
If they feed off the material coming in from the nebulae as mentioned earlier.
If so, they we need to consider how planets with a metal core works.
Image, courtesy of wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere



a) Does this mean we should avoid metallic planets, because they are protected and produce too few particles?
b) if no, should we then focus on the NORTH and SOUTH pole?
And how do we determine if the Magnetosphere is a factor?

Ok, lot's of question. Not sure whether this will help us narrow down the search.
I'm sure some of you will help me wise up a bit.

Thanks.

 

[yoda711]

When it comes to the Staples Center clue, is there anything at all connecting it to barnacles? I'll bet 5 tea canisters it's a red herring.

no, there is absolutely nothing connecting it to barnacles. it is a random "log entry" that a couple of CMDR's received, one of which from the Cubeo system after doing surface missions there. Not sure where the other guy received his. anyone know?

this is why I asked if Cubeo 3A has rings. I have not seen an answer yet, and I'm at work so I can't check atm.

 

[CMDR Corlas]

I meant to say earlier, I just found out that I can actually run Horizons on my dinky little Mac Mini so I might join up with you guys searching planets in the Pleiades and/or other nebulae later this week (have to trek back from Sag A* first).

If you're out that far, don't come back to the Pleiades to search. We've been told barnacles can be found in other nebulae as well. Search in ones out there.

 

[CMDR Runcible Shaw]

If you're out that far, don't come back to the Pleiades to search. We've been told barnacles can be found in other nebulae as well. Search in ones out there.

I could but I'd be limited. Good ol' FD didn't install planetary landing modules automatically on all ships, and I was already 16,000 LY out when Horizons dropped, so all I can do is do flyovers in my ship. I might do that though, since I originally meant to farm some neutrons stars and BH's and there are quite a few planetary nebula with those at the center.

 

[Lane1572]

Watch out CMDR's there are some player killers out tonight, ASP's with Rails... 2 CMDRs dead already. I am out in a corvette let me know if you need assistance.

EDIT: Make that Anaconda and ASP's... CMDR Comrade & CMDR Daylightm

Posted this last night but no one seemed interested then.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=223212

the more attention this gets the more explorer hunting will go on. A central place to request escort/combat assistance might be valuable.

I am in the area and up for some explorer defending regardless