UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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Hello everyone! I’m kind of new to the whole world of Elite, but I must say that I love so much where and how this game going. Let me be clear, I personally sure that we all became a witnesses of an alien invasion. But not this clumsy ridiculous and pathetic invasions with some giant alien ships jumping out of nowhere shooting lasers pew pew pew, “the Universe at danger!!!” and this kind of stuff from other games. No. The smart one, with many thoughtful stages. How do I see this?


  1. Stage one: Infiltration. Their agents are among us. Look, death and disappearance of the many main political figures, discovering some strange parasite at nerve centre that is look harmless for now, but then the phage plague.
  2. Stage two: Reconnaissance. Unknown Artifacts for me are clearly the recon probes, that were launched to scan future arrival area. They scan all the nearby objects and send the image of it.
  3. Stage three: Ground base preparation. They need some sort of launch base for future operations. So now its Large Barnacles work to prepare the suitable world or maybe a necessary amount of meta-alloys.
  4. Stage four: ???

So with all this in mind I tried to concentrate all my thoughts and my guess in one image:

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So what I tried to say is…Elite is one of few if not the only one game that makes my think, learn and even dream. The trill, intrigue, mysteries, and even community are just amazing. Thank you so much for that feeling!

And sorry for long post and bad English.

Amazing work CMDR!
Going straightly to the FrontPage, Post #3, NOW.
 
Do we really need another 10 pages of spam ?
I dont want more, but I am off on DWE later, so I wouldn't appreciate them anyway.
I am sure we will get some if we need them, but we dont, this search is STILL nothing compared to the 1st UA hunt.
Do we really need to search tent's of star system and hundreds of planets with millions of squared miles to find something noone ever seen for days and days? I prefer to have something about really thinking about, even if this is always a game, instead of passing hours flying over craters and canyons without any direction.
UA search was fun at the start but then become grinding.
PS: Post discussing MB hints are all but not spam.
 
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After the latest MB comments, Merope is no more on top of the list.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049&page=185&p=3409375#post3409375

Okay, good to know. I missed that comment by MB. Well, if this is the case then taking my expedition elsewhere is actually as good idea as any. After spending days in various Pleaidian systems, skimming the planets in low altidude flight while coming up with nothing really encourages me to look elsewhere. I have a Nebula in my mind, but not Pleiades.

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Do we really need to search tent's of star system and hundreds of planets with millions of squared miles to find something noone ever seen for days and days? I prefer to have something about really thinking about, even if this is always a game, instead of passing hours flying over craters and canyons without any direction.
UA search was fun at the start but then become grinding.

Real life treasure hunts or yeti searches also become a grind after a while. I say this is a really good depiction of a wild treasure hunt from fantasy literature.

No one is keeping you from speculating and thinking. Actually there are many paths you can delve deeper in terms of theory and speculation. It's in your hands to make it as enjoyable a search as you want it to be. Choose one of many theories on the first page (or make up your own) and start speculating on them until they give you a hunch to go after.
 
After the latest MB comments, Merope is no more on top of the list.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049&page=185&p=3409375#post3409375

Reader response I know, but I took that comment about it being good thinking from MB to be about this bit:

But the fact that these barnacles can be found in other nebulae, that more than one location has been hand placed, etc. proves that the UAs are not pointing at Merope because of the barnacles. The barnacles are another clue in the big puzzle, not the end of the puzzle.

Rather than this bit of the post:

There is still no logical reason to focus the barnacle search in Merope. Every landable planet in the Pleiades has just as much chance of containing the hand placed fixed POI as the planets in Merope, and Merope has already been searched the most.

Full post:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049&page=185&p=3409375&viewfull=1#post3409375
 
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Real life treasure hunts or yeti searches also become a grind after a while. I say this is a really good depiction of a wild treasure hunt from fantasy literature.

No one is keeping you from speculating and thinking. Actually there are many paths you can delve deeper in terms of theory and speculation. It's in your hands to make it as enjoyable a search as you want it to be. Choose one of many theories on the first page (or make up your own) and start speculating on them until they give you a hunch to go after.

First two word you write are the best one: real life.
This is not real life.
The only not speculative hints, at the moment, are:
- Some fixed location somewere in Pleiades
- Merope is not the most probable one.
A little to weak for a game, but yes, I agree with you, if it was real life and it was possible to jump to Pleiades nebula for real, it would be enough.
 
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And remember - don't name and shame :)
I just edited my post after reading up on the reasons for not naming and shaming (which do make sense to me). Apologies to all. Elite is my first MMO so thus far I haven't had to deal with people whose idea of fun is to stop others from having it. I'll probably play solo for a bit, at least until I can gather enough credits for the rebuy cost of my ship. That little joke last night ended up being quite costly.
 
so when lord zoltan told me off last week for not focusing on merope / maia

Instead focusing upon the entire nebula i was right after all, all the more reason to always keep in mind as open a search as possible, unless very specific information is confirmed.

So atlas, pleoine and other places, even other nebula might be wroth a look, orion and the crap nebula are very tempting targets. Wtih some very unique planets.
 
Something I haven't thought about earlier..

If these barnacles are found in nebulae, which can be thousands of light years apart, they can be two things:

1- A natural consequence of laws of physics, resulting from the phenomena common to nebulae,

2- A life form either evolved or created by intelligent beings to live in these environments for a reason.

Now, the second is more likely, and it brings us to an inevitable conclusion:

The barnacles can either travel FTL by themselves or someone is going around the galaxy, planting them in suitable places!

Something tells me when we finally find one, we have a chance of meeting the farmer's daughter planting the things.
 
I found nothing at KN MUSCAE either.

I popped into the Coalsack Nebula, on the way back to the bubble. It has a lot of planets deep in the actual nebula itself and on the way to it and back I got loads of undiscovered systems!

There are a ridiculous number of planets in that nebula! On my to-do list after the Pleiades.

Note to self...hit multi-quote first as I now just look like I'm having a chit-chat with myself. Sigh.
 
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so when lord zoltan told me off last week for not focusing on merope / maia

Instead focusing upon the entire nebula i was right after all, all the more reason to always keep in mind as open a search as possible, unless very specific information is confirmed.

So atlas, pleoine and other places, even other nebula might be wroth a look, orion and the crap nebula are very tempting targets. Wtih some very unique planets.
I've always thought something smelled funny about the crap nebula.
 
has anyone tried to use the UA's like ender eyes in minecraft to see if they point to any planets in a system?

I tried this in Merope on all moons of Merope 1 and on Merope 2A and 2D so far. Nothing out of the ordinary, UA still points to main star. And it´s really really hard to catch, so I lost some in the process in my fight against gravity. I dropped them just above the point where the coords and the g-force shows up. I´ll try too finish all Merope today.
 
Not officially - just a lot of very combat capable CMDRs who occasionally like to blow stuff up :)

Tricky - because you can sidestep them easily with Mobius or Canonn PGs (CMDR Canonn's PG will be up and running again in a day or so) or solo.

I don't necessarily disagree with their RP; but I do take issue with the fact they didn't bother issuing a warning that the rest of us would actually read. Also, the way they're going about it is pretty crummy to say the least: no warning, they'll just interdict you and blow you up.

Quite what the value in blowing up scientists is I don't know!
I have taken the liberty to respond to their Reddit explaining that what they are doing may well be counterproductive to what they are trying to achieve, given how little we know about the Unknown Artefacts and Large Barnacles. I do not, however, assume they have the mental capacity to understand that.
 
Looking to be a storm day today, good thing, I got a feeling I'm getting close.


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Finding a hand placed barnacle is infinitely less likely than finding a random spawn.

That's the case only if you know the spawn probability of the random ones in the conditions which allow them to spawn, which you also have to know.

Hand place ones could actually be easier to find if there was a logic involved in choosing the place. If the place is chosen at random, then it is as you say.
 
The second part is a direct consequence of the first.
And MB quoted the whole sentence.

Good point!

Personally I'm more convinced it'll be in Maia. Maia ticks a lot of potential "system of note" boxes e.g. black hole than Merope and will continue looking. I Also think people just looking at the shadowed sides of planets are limiting themselves unnecessarily too. He did also state that if you're at the right coordinates you'll definitely see it, not that you'll see it if the coordinates are right and it's at the right time i.e. when it's in a shadow.
 
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