UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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Wobblin-Gobblin

Wobblin-Gobblin
Hi guys,

i have a few questions:

what about Palin's outpost in Maia? Nothing heared about it since christmas.....or did I miss something?

Where did they found the wreckage of the Antares?

Is it possible to find Barnacles in POIs (blue circles)? Or can they only be found by flying close over the survace (1-3KM?)
 

who?

who?
LordZoltan said:
Just skipped to the last page to post this in case nobody's seen it.

With all the discussions going on about causing Interstellar war etc, it might not be advisable; but it's significant, nonetheless:

https://twitter.com/cmdrRonkerZ/status/689060225815588864?s=09

From the EDC via CMDR RonkerZ - shooting the middle of the Barnacle with a beam laser causes it to glow...
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Has that been confirmed? Only beams? I wonder if you switched beams for mining lasers..

Or if you need multiple beams / multiple ships.. As a pacifist pseudo/amateur scientist, I won't be taking part. :)
 

Julio Montega

Julio Montega
LordZoltan said:
Just skipped to the last page to post this in case nobody's seen it.

With all the discussions going on about causing Interstellar war etc, it might not be advisable; but it's significant, nonetheless:

https://twitter.com/cmdrRonkerZ/status/689060225815588864?s=09

From the EDC via CMDR RonkerZ - shooting the middle of the Barnacle with a beam laser causes it to glow...
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I'd say, try a mining laser and see if it uses the energy to increase the "mining" yield of Meta Alloys.
 

Fehler

F
Julio Montega said:
Theory:

UA and Barnacles are dedicated alien constructs
using bio-engineering and technical knowledge,
to serve an insectoid colony.

The barnacle is a static, self replicating mining platform, used to harvest
minerals and metal ores, refining them through bio-chemical ractions to
meta alloys. The barnacles seem to be pioneer constructs, while the UA
seems to prospect systems and communicate the data via morse to remote
locations.

Sticking with an insectoid idea, today's nature has many examples for sophisticated
organs insects posses. The fine antennae of butterflies are an example.
In case of an alien lifeform able to travel through witchspace, it would
require heightened senses to navigate witchspace, granting the ability to
aquire morse code over vast distances with high precision.

Meta Alloys are a prefab building component or a ressource in a crystaline shell,
produced by the barnacles. The Alloys are alike to bees wax or cocoons (construction component),
or could be close to honey or gelee royal (ressource/food).
I suspect a clear division into functions or castes here,
alike to a bee-hive, where barnacles are workers or "farmers" (ants who are static and grow mushrooms on their back to feed the colony)
and UAs are drones, scouting the vicinity, marking food and ressource locations.
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Nice theory :) But I would rather think that the UA's are some kind of "seed" that generates the barnacles. If the UA's were scouting drones, they would not be spread around merope in form of a shell. The UA's origin is definitely merope - to me that is the only explanation yet that explains this pattern.
 

Julio Montega

Julio Montega
Fehler said:
Nice theory :) But I would rather think that the UA's are some kind of "seed" that generates the barnacles. If the UA's were scouting drones, they would not be spread around merope in form of a shell. The UA's origin is definitely merope - to me that is the only explanation yet that explains this pattern.
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I also theorized yesterday, that the UA seeds the barnacle by transporting the relevant DNA and starting material for a barnacle colony in the pods of it's tail,
like a generation ship.
When Insects look for food they swarm out from the hive, and mark the path they took with pheromones,
the UAs swarmed out aswell;)

If we stay within E: D fiction we got an insectoid alien race
with organic hyperdrives, which were rendered useless due to a man made virus.
It would be logical to overcome that difficulty with developing technical solutions,
immune to the viral effect. The travel might have taken some decades, and they are just starting a new colony,
or harvesting ressources for curing the virus.

But thats all just tinfoil to keep the spirit high;)
 
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Snarfbuckle

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Julio Montega said:
I also theorized yesterday, that the UA seeds the barnacle by transporting the relevant DNA and starting material for a barnacle colony in the pods of it's tail,
like a generation ship.
When Insects look for food they swarm out from the hive, and mark the path they took with pheromones,
the UAs swarmed out aswell;)
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It could very well be that the UA's are an alien race "Seed Ship" or "Generation Ship" and the barnacles could be the start of terraforming on these planets.

A long term goal of organic terraforming through engineered biological machines.

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Or it could be Tyrranid seedpods hellbent on eating out part of the Galaxy.
 
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Julio Montega

Julio Montega
Kalearne said:
Now there's an idea. The pod is described as a mining fragment when it drops
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Some barnies are placed, so they focus the sun through the top section,
when the planet has completed his day-cycle.
It would be pretty green industry to use the sunlight to generate a mining laser
drilling deep down.

Might these barnies even try to drill to a planets core and utterly destroy it?
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
RonkerZ said:
Breakthrough

http://puu.sh/mAcOU/838b713279.jpg

A nice CMDR of the EDC Facebook group has discovered something really interesting. All credits to you CMDR, Angus M.
Is someone able to replicate this? Also I shared this with Canonn on twitter. They said we should try other weapons.
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Lol posted your tweet on previous page! ;)

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049&p=3442214&viewfull=1#post3442214

So either another wep type, or try a bunch of ships all focussing beams on it?

We know not what we do...
 
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Julio Montega

Julio Montega
RonkerZ said:
Breakthrough

http://puu.sh/mAcOU/838b713279.jpg

A nice CMDR of the EDC Facebook group has discovered something really interesting. All credits to you CMDR, Angus M.
Is someone able to replicate this? Also I shared this with Canonn on twitter. They said we should try other weapons.
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We should look into it,
especially if the time of it's illumination is tied to the time of being lasered.
If the time of illumination is fixed and not tied in to laser-time,
we can rule that out, and a possible complex code.

Maybe you need a passphrase in morse to open it?
Maybe you need to open it, before dropping a UA inside?
Dark = 0? Alight = 1? Interval = x seconds?
 
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Huros

Huros
Cynaqq said:
I agree we need a common enemy in this game and war in games is really fun. However, I agree with Drew on that we should not be the aggressors but the defenders for it to be a really fun prospect. Otherwise it'll be just bitter war which no one asked for but has to fight anyway. I want to feel like the good side when fighting. It's more about the 'romanticism' of war rather than the reality of it, where no one is really the good side but the sides of the same coin.

In game, I think, we should not shoot first against the first extraterrestrials we encounter but instead wait for FD to implement some aliens who 'will' shoot first. Which probably will come but not be Thargoids from a game design point of view. A third and really violent society is what we need imho.
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I'm not sure we need actual moral superiority of who shot first to manufacture fictitious moral authority that everyone can live with. Besides it is most likely we will be on the back foot "defending" for quite a while whether we shoot first or not. Also as Drew pointed out, and others touched upon, their social and societal norms could be as alien to us as their biology. The sound we make when we say "hello!" could be the most heinous insult directed against them or their supreme leader, and that it is enough to start a war over their honour! Who is in the moral superior position then?
 

Makaan

Makaan
Julio Montega said:
I also theorized yesterday, that the UA seeds the barnacle by transporting the relevant DNA and starting material for a barnacle colony in the pods of it's tail,
like a generation ship.
When Insects look for food they swarm out from the hive, and mark the path they took with pheromones,
the UAs swarmed out aswell;)

If we stay within E: D fiction we got an insectoid alien race
with organic hyperdrives, which were rendered useless due to a man made virus.
It would be logical to overcome that difficulty with developing technical solutions,
immune to the viral effect. The travel might have taken some decades, and they are just starting a new colony,
or harvesting ressources for curing the virus.

But thats all just tinfoil to keep the spirit high;)
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I really don't think they're seeds...

Look at what we know (roughly).

UA's

- UA's damage modules and stations
- They scan our ships and produce a rough image of it
- They use morse
- They point to Merope (where the first barnacle was found)

Barnacles

-Found on metal rich world's
-So far only in the Pleiades
-They are mining materials
-Said materials are being turned into meta-alloys
-Also the materials being mined are used in molecular engineering, bio engineering, medicines and obviously alloys

(Let me know if I missed anything)

Meta-alloys when used at Obsidian Orbital in experiments, and I believe were integrated into the stations systems, negated the effects of the UA's and subsequently repaired the station.

Why?

Why would the Unknown Artefacts lead us to Merope, which then leads us to the discovery of the first barnacle there.

The Barnacles are mining and creating meta-alloys which just so happened to negate the effects of the UA's at Obsidian Orbital.

Something smells off here.

Trojan Horse....

We need to look at what we know and build on that.
 
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Starlanced

Starlanced
who? said:
Has that been confirmed? Only beams? I wonder if you switched beams for mining lasers..

Or if you need multiple beams / multiple ships.. As a pacifist pseudo/amateur scientist, I won't be taking part. :)
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If you search earlier in the thread this was tested and discovered to be the glow of the beam itself (how I don't know but it was done)

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Fehler said:
As far as I know they can only be found by low level flight and do not generate POIs.
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MB said they are found in both, but no one has found a random blue POI version, all persistant

Also not all are on metal rich worlds
 
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