UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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THIS IS HOW TO DO SCIENCE!

I wish I could give you infinite reps for this post! The scientific way to test any theory (meaning a proposed model that could explan the observed data) is to make a testable hypothesis that would most easily DISprove your model, then do the experiment to see if the results match what you'd predict if your theory were correct. Too few people understand that, including many scientists I've encountered. I tip my tinfoil to you!

Well, you know, RedWizzard's is the most shining example of REAL SCIENTIFIC APPROACH we're having on this thread, since day one.

I think I might have some bad news, the tuba honks don't seem to ever repeat themselves. I took an hour long video of Barnacle 2 and wrote down the low honks as 0's and the high honks as 1's. Here's what I got.

00010100100100011010001010001001001001001010100000101110101111101001110111110110111001011110010101010101010101111000110110101110110010110100010010100110100100100101010101100010001101100110100

there isn't any repetition ever, which means either A, the message it is sending is longer than 1 hour (which I doubt) or B, there is no message hidden in the honks (which unfortunately I'm starting to believe.)

That's what I have been suspecting since the beginning: the Purrs are too similar to the UA's to behave differently. No message there, no message here.

I like to say that, the PURRS, are the UA and Barnacles BREATHING.
That's all.

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Just FYI: Decoding morse signals without knowing the seperator is...well almost infinitely futile.

Look at this code (regular morse term where I just deleted the seperators):
-...-.-.----...-----.-.....

When you enter it into here: http://www.dcode.fr/morse-code and hit the "Decrypt morse without seperators" button you will get 1000 iterations with different seperator patterns...in those 1000 I did not find the original wording which was:
DECODEMORSE

Exactly. AGREED completely. +REP
 
More dodgy thoughts from me :)

On the barnacle symbol, I think we need to find barnacles in other nebulae to find out if they have the same symbol on them, or if it changes with location. As someone who thought Barnards Loops was the best candidate, the image of the Pleiades Nebula posted earlier fits far better. I also think that going with negative images to get a match might be over-complicating things.

Also, on the shoot-to-glow property of the barnacle; early after the first was discovered someone posted they'd crashed into a barnacle without any damage to either ship or barnacle. If the glow is due to highly efficient energy dissipation, might it be possible that ramming a barnacle with a ship could also make it glow as it tries to disperse the energy of the impact?
 
As it appears to have come up - I can't read every post on our forums, and even in this thread - so if you encounter what you think to be a bug then raise it in the proper manner. There's a separate team who's job is to process all of the bug reports so it's much more likely to be picked up there. Thanks!

Michael

Cheers Michael - most of us have learned this lesson :)

But yes, I think it's worth mentioning, from my point of view only, I don't personally expect you to pop in here to confirm/deny bugs - just to do what you've intended - to drop the *occasional* hint bomb :)

Up to us to report the bugs and for your bug handling team to manage that :D

Once again - thanks for being around; great to have your attention. Hope you're enjoying being here too!
 
I think I might have some bad news, the tuba honks don't seem to ever repeat themselves. I took an hour long video of Barnacle 2 and wrote down the low honks as 0's and the high honks as 1's. Here's what I got.

00010100100100011010001010001001001001001010100000101110101111101001110111110110111001011110010101010101010101111000110110101110110010110100010010100110100100100101010101100010001101100110100

there isn't any repetition ever, which means either A, the message it is sending is longer than 1 hour (which I doubt) or B, there is no message hidden in the honks (which unfortunately I'm starting to believe.)

Never mind, it's still good science!
TomTom posted (#6908, 16/01/2016, 7:22 PM) a tielapse video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A9sX5KTFKg but sound was not sped up & it had what sounded like a couple of potential signals around 1:10 & 1:37 in (they could just be part of the sound track however they sound rather distinct), did you look at that? With the similarities of the UA & barnacle I would be most surprised if the barnacle didn't have some form of signal to decode. Even if it just said "danger, mining in progress"

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As it appears to have come up - I can't read every post on our forums, and even in this thread - so if you encounter what you think to be a bug then raise it in the proper manner. There's a separate team who's job is to process all of the bug reports so it's much more likely to be picked up there. Thanks!

Michael


Michael, NOBODY can read ALL the posts in this thread- even an Elder God!
:D
 
One more post about the whole glowing UA/lighting glitch stuff.

Finally came across a crashed probe on the dark side of the moon and replicated the exact same behaviour the barnacles exhibit with it. The reason I chose this is that it's the only other POI I know of where there's a persistent light source below the object (for a barnacle, it's the green glow, for a nav beacon, it's a red glow). I think it's that "light source" interfering with the light source generated by weapons fire.

Reference shot with no weapons fired. Note the U shaped rubble on the side.
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Beacon attacked with beams. Note the U shaped rubble (and, most of the other debris) is now lit just the same as the beacon. Even good ol DB is lit up.
beam_lit.jpg

Plasma weapons. Woo, purplez. Sadly not very interesting but you can see the effect on the various things again.
plasma.jpg

And, in my opinion, the coup de grace for this stuff. I lucked out majorly on this one when firing plasma weapons and caused the artefact to occur on a massive scale, lighting up ostensibly everything the lighting model interacts with. The effect lasted about the same length as the UA "glow" when shooting it with beams.
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If you still want to believe this is a thing, more power to you. But it's a red herring as far as I'm concerned now.
 
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I dot follow every post too, even if i4m beginning to think it's almost second job for me ^^ ( and I don't think i'll be able to do it for long again..)
 
One more post about the whole glowing UA/lighting glitch stuff.

Finally came across a crashed probe on the dark side of the moon and replicated the exact same behaviour the barnacles exhibit with it. The reason I chose this is that it's the only other POI I know of where there's a persistent light source below the object (for a barnacle, it's the green glow, for a nav beacon, it's a red glow). I think it's that "light source" interfering with the light source generated by weapons fire.

Reference shot with no weapons fired. Note the U shaped rubble on the side.

Beacon attacked with beams. Note the U shaped rubble (and, most of the other debris) is now lit just the same as the beacon. Even good ol DB is lit up.

Plasma weapons. Woo, purplez. Sadly not very interesting but you can see the effect on the various things again.

And, in my opinion, the coup de grace for this stuff. I lucked out majorly on this one when firing plasma weapons and caused the artefact to occur on a massive scale, lighting up ostensibly everything the lighting model interacts with. The effect lasted about the same length as the UA "glow" when shooting it with beams.

If you still want to believe this is a thing, more power to you. But it's a red herring as far as I'm concerned now.

This is enough for me to move the glowing Barnacle thing, from the front page, to the 'disproved' drawer.
Jmanis, this is SCIENCE. +REP
 
One more post about the whole glowing UA/lighting glitch stuff.

Finally came across a crashed probe on the dark side of the moon and replicated the exact same behaviour the barnacles exhibit with it. The reason I chose this is that it's the only other POI I know of where there's a persistent light source below the object (for a barnacle, it's the green glow, for a nav beacon, it's a red glow). I think it's that "light source" interfering with the light source generated by weapons fire.

Reference shot with no weapons fired. Note the U shaped rubble on the side.

Beacon attacked with beams. Note the U shaped rubble (and, most of the other debris) is now lit just the same as the beacon. Even good ol DB is lit up.

Plasma weapons. Woo, purplez. Sadly not very interesting but you can see the effect on the various things again.

And, in my opinion, the coup de grace for this stuff. I lucked out majorly on this one when firing plasma weapons and caused the artefact to occur on a massive scale, lighting up ostensibly everything the lighting model interacts with. The effect lasted about the same length as the UA "glow" when shooting it with beams.

If you still want to believe this is a thing, more power to you. But it's a red herring as far as I'm concerned now.

Nice work. Great science is as much (if not more) about putting old theories and ideas to bed as it is about discovering/proposing new ones.

Edit: somewhat ninja'd by rizal - LOL
 
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So with the recording sped up 4x, it is actually terrifying at 3x-4x you can clearly hear HELP US, followed by screaming then an abrupt halt with a crumpling noise as if the this is a recording left there and whatever it was cut it off. It also sounds like it is made up of multiple random recordings. Help who? or what? Maybe the missing? maybe another species attacked by the Thargoids or the Thargoids last message from being attacked by another race?

Anyway here are the recordings, let the spinal shivers begin!

Soundcloud recording at 3x speed: 3xSpeed
Youtube recording at 4x speed: 4xSpeed
 
So with the recording sped up 4x, it is actually terrifying at 3x-4x you can clearly hear HELP US, followed by screaming then an abrupt halt with a crumpling noise as if the this is a recording left there and whatever it was cut it off. It also sounds like it is made up of multiple random recordings. Help who? or what? Maybe the missing? maybe another species attacked by the Thargoids or the Thargoids last message from being attacked by another race?

Anyway here are the recordings, let the spinal shivers begin!

Soundcloud recording at 3x speed: 3xSpeed
Youtube recording at 4x speed: 4xSpeed

I didn't hear anything intelligible in there. Can you indicate where in the recording exactly? A time stamp would be real nice.
 
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