UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
Small breakthrough about the barnacle sound analysis:

Analysis the Peak Frequency espectrogram for 2 different barnacle records, accelerated to 500%, I noticed a very obvious difference between them. If you study the peak frequency graph you will realize that at the top of it there are two very clear waveforms, as regular as an atomic watch. By comparing two different recordings there is obviously a difference at the rate of the signal.

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This change happens both in the rate and the Hz width (meaning that as the signal gets faster, the high and low pitch become less pronunciated).
At this points this raises a few questions:

-What does the signal change
-What is the slowest and the fastest rate of the signal.

There are some things that may affect the sound:

-Destruction or damage of one or more spikes.
-Shooting the main barnacle.
-Presence of ships or SRVs.


WHAT DO WE NEED NOW:

We need more recordings of the barnacle sounds! A lot more! So please commanders, the CANONN needs your help! We need you to get to a barnacle, get in your debug camera, get it INSIDE the main barnacle and record the sound. Each record should include:

1) How many ships are nearby the barnacle site.
2) How many spikes were destroyed, if any.
3) If anyone has just shot the main barnacle.

Submit your recordings here: http://goo.gl/forms/gFvLuYFGw7
Check other commander's recordings here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...HKXgVkGZJKTBwzsHVencr5TR3s/edit#gid=688308378

PLEASE COMMANDERS, WE NEED YOUR HELP!
 
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irongut

irongut
The Game Colonel said:
Commanders,
I know the "Boss" said that barnacles could be found in all Nebulas, but do we think they have been placed there yet as part of the game design/flow?
I've spend the better part of two weeks scouring many target planets in the N. American Nebula and others out in that region, as ID'd by previous finds on this forum, with absolutly no luck. I understand there are others out here with the same negitive results.

What are your thoughts? Should searching be limited to the Pleiades only at this time?
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At no point was it stated that barnacles are in ALL nebulae.

IF all barnacle containing nebulae have UA shells then we can cross Lagoon off the list of candidates. I've spent a week in / around Lagoon and not seen a single SSS. I haven't spent much time on planets though so can't rule out barnacles that don't have their own UA shell in Lagoon.
 

spameroo

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M. Volgrand said:
Small breakthrough about the barnacle sound analysis:

Analysis the Peak Frequency espectrogram for 2 different barnacle records, accelerated to 500%, I noticed a very obvious difference between them. If you study the peak frequency graph you will realize that at the top of it there are two very clear waveforms, as regular as an atomic watch. By comparing two different recordings there is obviously a difference at the rate of the signal.

http://oi63.tinypic.com/34nh386.jpg

This change happens both in the rate and the Hz width (meaning that as the signal gets faster, the high and low pitch become less pronunciated).
At this points this raises a few questions:

-What does the signal change
-What is the slowest and the fastest rate of the signal.

There are some things that may affect the sound:

-Destruction or damage of one or more spikes.
-Shooting the main barnacle.
-Presence of ships or SRVs.


WHAT DO WE NEED NOW:

We need more recordings of the barnacle sounds! A lot more! So please commanders, the CANONN needs your help! We need you to get to a barnacle, get in your debug camera, get it INSIDE the main barnacle and record the sound. Each record should include:

1) How many ships are nearby the barnacle site.
2) How many spikes were destroyed, if any.
3) If anyone has just shot the main barnacle.

PLEASE COMMANDERS, WE NEED YOUR HELP!
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Can you explain what these graphs are showing for me? I will readily admit that I have very little experience with analysis of audio data, but it looks like one recording is stereo data and the other is mono, and that the sample rates are also different. I'm not sure what differences I'm supposed to be looking at visually, but is it possible the differences you are seeing might be artefacts of the different recording parameters?
 

Nomadski

Nomadski
CMDR JP76 said:
Hi all, first off good effort to you all that have participated in all of this since the start, and to the Cmdr that first discovered the Barnacles!


Im participating in the Meta alloy CG and yesterday was my first trip to find the one on Merope 5C. This one: -26.3515 -156.4056

I soon learnt how to spot the site from 1000's of km away, so if i may ill put these pics here as a reference as how to spot the site, for those who haven't been yet or struggle to find it.




Ok the pics are in order from an approach.....

In this first one as you approach head for the yellowish mark below the arrow, note the darker area just above and to the right.
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/01/22/MeropeLandmarks.jpg


ok next one closer in, and look for the 'Devil' see it? (Kinda reminds me of the Man UTD Devil on their logo) Head for the heart!
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/01/22/Meropelandmarks2.jpg


Head for the bottom left of heart.
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/01/22/MeropeLandmarks3.jpg



This next one was taken with my phone yesterday for reference, please excuse quality :p
http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/01/22/Meropelm4.jpg


Hope it helps!

Keep up the good work fellas! o7

Fly safe

J.
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Great work. I found ti thru the co-ords, but the pics will certainly help me relocate them!
 

spameroo

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Couple general questions I'd like to toss out there before I go strap on my spaceman goggles (aka Oculus) to actually play for a while:

1) Do we know anything definitive about whether it matters if a system is located within a nebula literally (as seen on Galaxy map), or should any ____ Nebula Sector systems be considered equally likely to have barnacles? I'd been assuming the JC-U b3-2 barnacles were only there because the crashed Anaconda was transporting them away from Pleiades, but idk if that's true.

2) Is the Struve's Lost Nebula something real, or is it from another game or something? Passed thru the sector and spent a while looking for the actual nebula on map last night. It's a tiny planetary nebula without a star within, but I guess the sector might be worth searching, depending on the answer to my first question.

3) Is the little symbol that appears when you scan the barnacle spires with the Data Link Scanner novel, or does the same thing happen with any other non-data point object?
 

The Game Colonel

The Game Colonel
irongut said:
At no point was it stated that barnacles are in ALL nebulae.

IF all barnacle containing nebulae have UA shells then we can cross Lagoon off the list of candidates. I've spent a week in / around Lagoon and not seen a single SSS. I haven't spent much time on planets though so can't rule out barnacles that don't have their own UA shell in Lagoon.
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12/01/2016 5:12 PM
Q: But the fact that these barnacles can be found in other nebulae, that more than one location has been hand placed, etc. proves that the UAs are not pointing at Merope because of the barnacles. The barnacles are another clue in the big puzzle, not the end of the puzzle. There is still no logical reason to focus the barnacle search in Merope. Every landable planet in the Pleiades has just as much chance of containing the hand placed fixed POI as the planets in Merope, and Merope has already been searched the most.

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Originally Posted by Michael Brookes
This is good thinking.


Michael


 

relayer

relayer
I can confirm reports of the missing content... after a couple hours in solo zooming around in the buggy back and forth across the coordinates for both Anaconda wreck & barnacles (and smashing my ship into a mountain for 75% hull damage - ouch!) I logged to the main menu & tried Private Groups - no go. Then popped into open & I was literally right next to it (at least not on top of it).

This was pretty discouraging - I usually give FD some leeway in stuff, but this was a joy- and game-breaker. Particularly having avidly followed this thread and the research & out to see my first barnacle; having found the Anaconda, I had to log for the night :( maybe tomorrow.
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
RedWizzard said:
I didn't think the spires looked much like the UAs at all in terms of material.
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I'm talking about the gray base material. If you find smooth sections on the spikes and compare it to the bone like parts on the UA head.

I think the have the same texture. I will try to make pics.
 

Cmdr Delmonte[VR]

Cmdr Delmonte[VR]
The *OGC "Hope" a new Battle equipped Corvette working to uphold the Canonn flag of science was last night destroyed in Merope without provocation or comms, jumped by Space mongrel's in a cutter and FDS, thankfully all crew escaped and a replacement vessel was quickly re-launched from Obsidian orbital. Next time we wont ask questions and be nice on comms, Next time WE shoot first !

(*Orange Grove Consortium) First PvP in open, pretty much what we expected :)
 
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spameroo

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Han_Zen said:
I'm talking about the gray base material. If you find smooth sections on the spikes and compare it to the bone like parts on the UA head.

I think the have the same texture. I will try to make pics.
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I think the grey material of the spires looks a lot more like rock, especially on the interior after you break it open. We might not be talking about the same thing though; is the grey stuff you mean sort of what the green glowing bits are embedded in? I need to take another look at them. I definitely remember thinking several times while investigating/exploiting them that all of the barnacle-related textures seemed to be much lower resolution than on the one UA I ever found.
 

Cynaqq

Cynaqq
Han_Zen said:
It is interesting angle of the UA. If you search for barnacles in UA thread 3 you will see that we speculated on this, way before Horizons.
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I know, I was lurking there but wasn't participating much on the speculation.

It's just that it's hard to find a picture of the UA form this angle so I wanted to make one, just in case, and having done so, decided to share it.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Cynaqq said:
I know, I was lurking there but wasn't participating much on the speculation.

It's just that it's hard to find a picture of the UA form this angle so I wanted to make one, just in case, and having done so, decided to share it.
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Bitstorm takes realy good high-res images. Check out the links in his sig.
 

Kalearne

Kalearne
M. Volgrand said:
Small breakthrough about the barnacle sound analysis:

Analysis the Peak Frequency espectrogram for 2 different barnacle records, accelerated to 500%, I noticed a very obvious difference between them. If you study the peak frequency graph you will realize that at the top of it there are two very clear waveforms, as regular as an atomic watch. By comparing two different recordings there is obviously a difference at the rate of the signal.

http://oi63.tinypic.com/34nh386.jpg

This change happens both in the rate and the Hz width (meaning that as the signal gets faster, the high and low pitch become less pronunciated).
At this points this raises a few questions:

-What does the signal change
-What is the slowest and the fastest rate of the signal.

There are some things that may affect the sound:

-Destruction or damage of one or more spikes.
-Shooting the main barnacle.
-Presence of ships or SRVs.


WHAT DO WE NEED NOW:

We need more recordings of the barnacle sounds! A lot more! So please commanders, the CANONN needs your help! We need you to get to a barnacle, get in your debug camera, get it INSIDE the main barnacle and record the sound. Each record should include:

1) How many ships are nearby the barnacle site.
2) How many spikes were destroyed, if any.
3) If anyone has just shot the main barnacle.

PLEASE COMMANDERS, WE NEED YOUR HELP!
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049&p=3427650&viewfull=1#post3427650

i was the only one in the instance. My anaconda was parked 3-400m away
barnacle wasnt shot.
hope they are long enough

edit: just read the bit about being inside. Sorry
 
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PyschoDad

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Probably what is causing all the instance issues. Thousands of CMDRs logging in and out repeatedly to fill their cargo holds at the relatively few known barnacle sites.
 

Fehler

F
spameroo said:
Couple general questions I'd like to toss out there before I go strap on my spaceman goggles (aka Oculus) to actually play for a while:

2) Is the Struve's Lost Nebula something real, or is it from another game or something? Passed thru the sector and spent a while looking for the actual nebula on map last night. It's a tiny planetary nebula without a star within, but I guess the sector might be worth searching, depending on the answer to my first question.
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Struve's Lost Nebula is indeed a "real" nebula, neither fictional nor procedural generated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_1554
 
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ThoroughlyLostExplorer

ThoroughlyLostExplorer
Do any of you guys see progress on the Meta Alloys CG? I accepted it out of curiosity to track its progress (I don't believe in shooting things which I know little about), but I don't see any progress on the bars, only an amount in tonnes. Is this because I am not actually participating, or do you see no progress on the bar as well?
 
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