UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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Just letting you guys know that there was an ass in a cutter blowing ships up whilst your in the scarab, lost my conda that way, good thing I was insured
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Yesterday night we took one of them down and damaged the others.
It was fun but we were outgunned and we are not focus PvP combat Pilotes so we did what we could.
But apparently it was enough to annoy then because after that they were waiting for us at the station with more people on their side...

Well... It is entirely optional so do it only if you want to experience a bit of surface planetary PvP, this can be fun and that is the point, do it only if you like this kind of fun.
Do it on your term. Do not let them dictate their rules or whatever bull     they are trying to force on you. All it matters is you having fun.

Until them, have fun and fly safe !


[video=youtube;0KZe0S1B-8c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KZe0S1B-8c[/video]
 
Between bugs and griefers this CG has no chance. ... Can't get barnicale spawning unless in open. Or mobious. If you go open you get blasted for the fun of it....
 
Between bugs and griefers this CG has no chance. ... Can't get barnicale spawning unless in open. Or mobious. If you go open you get blasted for the fun of it....

Create your own Private Group. Then exit to desktop and quit the launcher as well. Restart and keep on doing so until barnacle appears. Will only take two or three tries. Once there it will stay as you swop between your group and solo.
 
Is there a guide somewhere for finding new barnacle locations? I've found the material linked on page 1, I am more interested in finding them elsewhere. Any clues on planet types, surface features to check, good flying height?

I understand that if we keep looking in places that are alike to places we have found them before (templerature, surface discoloration) we won't discover too much really new information. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure I'm doing something wrong. I have spent some time flying above planets in several nebulas, crashed my ship once and am now beginning to feel frustrated. There is so much surface area around that I guess barnacles will have to amount to hundreds of millions, or be statistically bunched in relatively small landforms, to be findable at all.

So overall I really am interested in actually finding something, even if I have to go back to the pleiades and will probably re-discover some location that someone else has found already.

Lost,
Look at the beginning of this forum thread for a consolidated listing of what we know so far. There are also other spread sheets out there, also in various pages of this thread that provide good detailed info.
 
Yesterday night we took one of them down and damaged the others.
It was fun but we were outgunned and we are not focus PvP combat Pilotes so we did what we could.
But apparently it was enough to annoy then because after that they were waiting for us at the station with more people on their side...

Well... It is entirely optional so do it only if you want to experience a bit of surface planetary PvP, this can be fun and that is the point, do it only if you like this kind of fun.
Do it on your term. Do not let them dictate their rules or whatever bull they are trying to force on you. All it matters is you having fun.

Until them, have fun and fly safe !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KZe0S1B-8c

I was wanting to go see the new pretty things before I headed out to the core for the first time so I wasn't really equipped for taking down a cutter. I think at least 5 ships went boom before he turned his eye to the SRV's left on the surface.
 
*URGENT REQUEST*

I need the morse translations for all ships...

BUT with mistakes included! (No letter guessing)

Can someone point me in the right direction?

Cheers!:)

The morse signals for all the ships are already in post #3, in the MORSE section, since the beginning of the thread.
You'll find them with the original mistakes and the corrections being inside parenthesis, as always.
No need to go looking for them elsewhere.
You'll also find a couple example of how I decode them using Sonic Visualizer.

@ Rizal...

Any chance you can point me in the direction of the pre-ship morse recordings from the UAs and attempts to figure them out?

Cheers m8.

To have the UA behave like the pre-ships morse, you just need to take advantage of the T-ships bug: take a T-6 and go looking for a UA in the shell: it will morse the location name, as it did before 1.4.
But to have the exact behavior we had in 1.2/1.3, you should first scoop it, then deploy it again, to let the BG noise show up, and the speeding up of the purrs as well, while the UA decays.

Cheers

EDIT: there is a Black-Out in all my quarter, going on since this morning. Very annoying!
 
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I saw a vid on youtube regarding Barnacles today and it showed them from above. I think it kinda looks some sort of a "galaxy map". when its dark, the green light from the center draws six long arms. Our galaxy has six arms and the small barnacles could be markers showing positions in the galaxy. Ok its really tinfoil :) Here is a Picture for comparison (the markers on the galaxymap are just put there as examples).

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Hi Eddy. Yep tried that. ... I get a spawn in Canonn group 1 in 10 .. personal group nope not one !! Will keep trying. Or you know FD COULD FIX THE BUG !!! :)...o7

Lets hope theres a fix else if this is a crossroad point in story then we are being railroaded into a failure due to the bugs. Let a wing of folk there other night to farm, and since i've lost my barnacles, can no longer spawn them myself but wingmen could.
first 2 days no problem with spawns, day 3 and 4 nothing there for me.

Bug reported it, or extended my prior bug report on the same thing again.
 
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Okay Guys ´N Gals.

Pretty sure about this.
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I strongly believe this is a Cypher key.
If you remember, some of the UA's ship morse was missing or contained invalid stuff. Which seemed to be deliberate.
The usual way the UA's song ran was: Loud noise, 7 shorter noises, Loud noise. And those 7 noises never made sense when transcribed.

If you look at the picture, you will notice that the lines end precisely either on the inside, middle or outside of the egg sacks. Not 1/4 way across or so. This seems very deliberate.

If you look at the first line, it precisely defines the outside of the Egg collection...
See Slide 1:

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But NOT its own side.

See slide 2:

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Problem is that I can only show you guys what I have found. I simply have too many commitments and don't have enough time to work on it myself...

Here are the original images that I used to create the superimposed shot with. As you can see, I took great care with having a stable base and conditions for the debug cam in order to get as accurate a combined picture as possible. The rotation and timing are of course variable, but I think I nailed it good.

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WHAT DO WE NEED NOW:

We need more recordings of the barnacle sounds! A lot more! So please commanders, the CANONN needs your help! We need you to get to a barnacle, get in your debug camera, get it INSIDE the main barnacle and record the sound. Each record should include:

1) How many ships are nearby the barnacle site.
2) How many spikes were destroyed, if any.
3) If anyone has just shot the main barnacle.

PLEASE COMMANDERS, WE NEED YOUR HELP!

http://www.file-upload.net/download-11239795/barnacle2_pleione_11A_0.8_176.5.mp3.html
1H30min 1x mp3
from Pleione 11A (0.8°/176.5°)
got better quality. maybe information gets lost through mp3 encoding?

1) 0 ships
2) not 1 shot
3) see 2)
 
Nitric acid probably has the same effect. Still, nitric acid doesn't send messages. UA damaging ships doesn't mean UA are deliberately destructive, it could simply be a side effect of what they are (and as of now, nobody knows what they are really).

I figured the most likely purpose of the UAs in line with what we know so far was that they're basically sentry devices. Not defensive ones designed to destroy things, more a kind of guard dog. They're deployed in a shell around barnacle sites, they scan anything that approaches and we know they transmit a signal which depicts what they have scanned. The fact that we can pick up and decipher that signal would be incidental; just because we can receive it doesn't mean that it's actually being sent for our benefit.

UAs damage anything which attempts to collect them as either a defensive mechanism to stop them being removed, or as merely an unintended consequence of their structure and/or method of operation, but I'd be much more inclined to believe the former, that it's an intentional design feature. The fact that they don't (for example) explode in a 50 megaton blast and instead just cause slow failure would support that hypothesis, in particular because they attack your cargo hatch - if they are intended to be deployed around a site to observe and report on anything approaching which could be deemed a threat, it would make sense that if captured they are designed primarily just to get free and resume operations, not destroy themselves in order to neutralise something which may not actually be a significant threat to begin with.

When a commander manages to circumvent those defences, removes a UA and transports it to a station, the UA continues to try to free itself; however since stations are significantly larger than a ship a single UA isn't able to do much of anything to it. Removing lots of them to the same station causes the station to begin to suffer partial failures once a critical mass of UAs has been accumulated there.

The barnacles seem to be automated biological factories which are used to produce materials. Perhaps they're a naturally occurring species that are just being used because they can produce valuable commodities (think cows or chickens) or perhaps they've been engineered, it's interesting to speculate but doesn't affect the hypothesis one way or the other really. I think they are deliberately seeded in an area with the right conditions for them to begin to produce meta-alloys and are left to operate with the UAs on guard duty. They are basically being farmed. The 'logo' that we've seen on them could be naturally occurring, or it could be the equivalent of a 'brand' (as in a burned-on mark identifying the 'owner' not a trademark) applied by whatever seeded that particular batch. Could show the location of origin of the batch of barnacles (think Jersey potatoes, or New Zealand lamb) the 'strain' of barnacles and what they are intended to produce (maybe there are others that we haven't seen yet which produce something other than meta-alloys) or the origin of whatever seeded them.

Of course, all that would imply that something is monitoring the UAs transmissions. That same something would no doubt have realised that we found their barnacles and are currently shooting them up all over the Pleaides, stealing their resources and generally being unpleasant.

Extending the logic of them being farmed, if that was my farm and I received a message that some pesky varmints were capturing my guard dogs and stealing my sheep, I know what I'd be doing. I'd be getting my shotgun and jumping in my pickup to deliver some righteous justice.

TL;DR - Thargoids incoming. :D
 
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Thank you commanders Brannigan and Kalearne for your recordings!

Can you explain what these graphs are showing for me? I will readily admit that I have very little experience with analysis of audio data, but it looks like one recording is stereo data and the other is mono, and that the sample rates are also different. I'm not sure what differences I'm supposed to be looking at visually, but is it possible the differences you are seeing might be artefacts of the different recording parameters?

The sample rate should only affect the quality of the sound. If there war really subtle differences I would agree that it may just be quality-related artefacts from the recording parameters. However, as you can see, there is a huge timing difference in the waveform, so I don´t think it is really related.


SUBMIT YOUR RECORDINGS HERE:

In order to keep a database of the barnacle recordings, I made this form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SThPCwRUcHQmL2SBvcw0sb2CoY29iZQT0_tFWeadYSU/viewform?usp=send_form

You can then check the results here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...HKXgVkGZJKTBwzsHVencr5TR3s/edit#gid=688308378

If you make any record of the sounds, please submit them through this database and complete all the requested data! If you observe any extra parameter it should be included in the form, please let me know via PM. Thank you all!
 
Okay Guys ´N Gals.

Pretty sure about this.
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I strongly believe this is a Cypher key.
If you remember, some of the UA's ship morse was missing or contained invalid stuff. Which seemed to be deliberate.
The usual way the UA's song ran was: Loud noise, 7 shorter noises, Loud noise. And those 7 noises never made sense when transcribed.

If you look at the picture, you will notice that the lines end precisely either on the inside, middle or outside of the egg sacks. Not 1/4 way across or so. This seems very deliberate.

If you look at the first line, it precisely defines the outside of the Egg collection...
See Slide 1:

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But NOT its own side.

See slide 2:

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Problem is that I can only show you guys what I have found. I simply have too many commitments and don't have enough time to work on it myself...

Here are the original images that I used to create the superimposed shot with. As you can see, I took great care with having a stable base and conditions for the debug cam in order to get as accurate a combined picture as possible. The rotation and timing are of course variable, but I think I nailed it good.

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Marbor, I truly appreciate your effort and enthusiasm in your research, so +REP and respect, but:

Those 7 noises, we use to call Purrs, are not always 7.
They are 3 in a free floater, and 5/6/7 for a deployed UA. I agree that those 7 markings still need a true explaination, being the only one a vague link to the seven sisters, that came before we discovered the Merope pointing behavior, and I still don't like it anyway, even if I was one of the strongest supporter about it.

That said, I liked the experiment and the method, but your conclusion about a cypher, does not convince me.
But I may be wrong.
 
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anyone else notice that the 2 trees that produce meta alloy are almost always pointing north and south?

Often, but not always. Figured out the same. At the beginning i was just writing down N-S orientation.
Pleione - 11A (0.8°/176.5°) is 165° and 345° others are closer to north and south
Merope - 5c (-26.3°/-156.4°) is E-W

maybe they point to the next barnacle/anaconda ?
 
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Marbor, I truly appreciate your effort and enthusiasm in your research, so +REP and respect, but:

Those 7 noises, we use to call Purrs, are not always 7.
They are 3 in a free floater, and 5/6/7 for a deployed UA. I agree that those 7 markings still need a true explaination, being the only one a vague link to the seven sisters, that came before we discovered the Merope pointing behavior, and I still don't like it anyway, even if I was one of the strongest supporter about it.

That said, I liked the experiment and the method, but your conclusion about a cypher, does not convince me.
But I may be wrong.

I can understand your lack of conviction but I really do think it is worth chasing up, if for nothing else apart from the fact that both sides very much seem designed to fit together.

What are the chances of not only the first bull matching perfectly with the egg sack exterior but also all subsequent ones matching up perfectly with either the edges or middle of the eggs?

At the moment we have a distinct lack of roads to go down. Micheal Brookes said himself "The answer is right in front of you" which indicates at least to me it is likely to be graphical in nature. Here we have graphics, and a strong correlation between them.

It might not be a Cypher. I freely admit that. But I am SURE it means something.

And that IS worth chasing up.
 
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