Well, to be fair if I drew a bunch of random points it would also look like a starmap. I'm not saying there's no significance, but at this point the only thing we know from this is that it seems FD have used the same barnacle model at least twice.
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Well, to be fair if I drew a bunch of random points it would also look like a starmap. I'm not saying there's no significance, but at this point the only thing we know from this is that it seems FD have used the same barnacle model at least twice.
Now its going to start getting interesting! thanks MB for turning it off and on again.
Loving the goose barnicels theory + reped
ps has anyone tried listening to the uas with lazers?
Loving the goose barnicels theory + reped
ps has anyone tried listening to the uas with lazers?
Either way, you should avoid the English governors' daughter.
Ah excellent! At that point I will resume the search in other nebulae.
There's a lot of gold in this comment. Well done sir!
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This is good cover for Lab 69:
"Time to 'listen' to some UAs."
"Right mate, 4 pips to weapons."
"Beam laser 'microphones' fire!"
pew pew pew... explosion
"Sounds pretty good to me."
Perhaps a better way to get more accurate barnacle spike coordinates for the map theory might be to position your ship over each one, looking straight down, and jot down the lat/long. This would remove the error introduced by perspective effects. FD gave us lat/long to 4 decimal places, let's use it.
My idea was to enter these coordinates into a matrix which could then be manupulated (rotated and scaled) to match up the spikes with known points in the galaxy map (merope, sol, sagA...). This would result in actual (X, ?, Z) galaxy coordinates you could aim for, to see if there's a nebula there, somewhere along the Y axis (rather than trying to guess based on an image). Again this is an example of where a computer tool would make things easier, but certainly not required.
footnote... why FD didn't make Z the out-of-plane direction, really sets off my OCD.
My idea was to enter these coordinates into a matrix which could then be manupulated (rotated and scaled) to match up the spikes with known points in the galaxy map (merope, sol, sagA...). This would result in actual (X, ?, Z) galaxy coordinates you could aim for, to see if there's a nebula there, somewhere along the Y axis (rather than trying to guess based on an image). Again this is an example of where a computer tool would make things easier, but certainly not required.
footnote... why FD didn't make Z the out-of-plane direction, really sets off my OCD.
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Wow you guys are quick. You leave here with an idea forming in your head, come back and most of it has already been discussed. No more mentats for you!
Anyways, i just finished putting together my pictures. I do think there's something interesting going on but i'd prefer an unbiased opinion so i'll put my thoughts into a spoiler.
Anyways, i just finished putting together my pictures. I do think there's something interesting going on but i'd prefer an unbiased opinion so i'll put my thoughts into a spoiler.
0° ship alignment - You may have to turn a picture by180° and the spike arrangement will fit any other picture. All m.alloy spikes are aligned in either a NE/SW line or vice versa - depending on if your ship is aligned 0° or 180°
So playing around with the idea that the central structure and it's symbols depict - just an example here - the pleiades nebula, is there any resemblance on the galaxy map, and do the lines intersecting the middle point at something, if looked at from either side, a galactical POI or similar - would this crude "map" work on any other of the nebula's like barnard's using it as middle point. Or do they just point out 2 very important systems around the nebula/centre? Just some thoughts i played around with while finishing the pics, going to follow up by taking a real hard look at the galmap now
So playing around with the idea that the central structure and it's symbols depict - just an example here - the pleiades nebula, is there any resemblance on the galaxy map, and do the lines intersecting the middle point at something, if looked at from either side, a galactical POI or similar - would this crude "map" work on any other of the nebula's like barnard's using it as middle point. Or do they just point out 2 very important systems around the nebula/centre? Just some thoughts i played around with while finishing the pics, going to follow up by taking a real hard look at the galmap now
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Nice job Jorge! This is what we need for comparative studies.
Repped!
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Other Goodies eh?
Mmmmm...
What happens when you take the 3 badges on the segments into consideration with the spike layouts?
Ooooh hold on a mo 3 was significant in Raman culture must check up on systems in the Rama series
Sirius and Tau Ceti were two systems visited in addition to our own.
And the stations bear a remarkable resemblance to the inside of the Raman craft.
Ooooh hold on a mo 3 was significant in Raman culture must check up on systems in the Rama series
Sirius and Tau Ceti were two systems visited in addition to our own.
And the stations bear a remarkable resemblance to the inside of the Raman craft.
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Yep, i took a few (8) picture's myself and so far all of them have the same arrangement if you just turn the picture enough, usually by a 180°, what's more, there always are 2 meta alloy spikes and 15 "minor" resource spikes.
Ok chaps, anyone got the most precise coordinates for:
Maia
Merope
Pleione
P-Sec JS-U B3-2
I tried EDSC, etc. They seem more focused on collecting coordinates than having a simple way of displaying their info.
Maia
Merope
Pleione
P-Sec JS-U B3-2
I tried EDSC, etc. They seem more focused on collecting coordinates than having a simple way of displaying their info.
Legend. Thanks.
'Other surface goodies': Do you mean Bill Oddie, Tim Brooke-Taylor and Graham Garden?
[video=youtube_share;4-w8OKo4phg]https://youtu.be/4-w8OKo4phg[/video]
(For those that don't know)
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Or "no, the lazor's out of tune, we need to listen to another one..."
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Maia: [-81.78125, -149.4375, -343.375]
Merope: [-78.59375, -149.625, -340.53125]
Pleione: [-77.0, -146.78125, -344.125]
Pleiades Sector JS-U B3-2: unknown to EDSC, you'll have to trilaterate it
Your last two screenshots are very interesting, because even though the red lines are pointing the same direction, the actual rotation of the barnacle set is 180 degrees out from each other. Looking at the co-ordinates, the two sites are also on other sides of the "equator" (first set both positive, second both negative), which is probably the reason for the degree switch. Does a barnacle that's only 90 degrees off (two co-ordinates positive vs. one negative and one positive, for example) also result in a 90 degree rotation of the array?
I propose using the spike that is almost in a straight line to the two meta-spires as a start point and the furthest spire as an arrowhead (although there's nothing saying we shouldn't do the opposite)
The issues now are, is this a line across a planet (other barnacles in the same line) or across a system/galaxy?
Which plane do we home in on as the axis? The main barnacle body has a sort of rotation effect to it so do we assume that's a reference to the spiral arms of the galaxy itself (so we know whether to look down or up)?
I'm about to come in-game so I may as well see if I can find a planet with multiple barnacles across the different axis ranges
Thanks. It'd be handy to get B3-2 - it's a bit further away.
For those looking for a solvable audio puzzle of the Morse kind - may I remind everyone to check out Episode 4 of the Hutton Radio Dr Arcanonn radio play.
Posting here because after Vingtetun made it, it kinda got lost with all the barnacling
Obviously if you haven't heard the others then you should! You'll find them all linked off the homepage at the bottom (http://canonn.science)
Oh, and we got RTd by DBOBE today!
Sorry to hijack the science for that, but, well - I'm sure you all understand
Posting here because after Vingtetun made it, it kinda got lost with all the barnacling
Obviously if you haven't heard the others then you should! You'll find them all linked off the homepage at the bottom (http://canonn.science)
Oh, and we got RTd by DBOBE today!
Sorry to hijack the science for that, but, well - I'm sure you all understand
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It's the star coordinates I'm after, not the barnacles.
Eyeballing the Galaxy Map, P-Sec JC-U B3-2 is at -73.75, -135.75, -359.75 - near enough for what I'm doing
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Your last two screenshots are very interesting, because even though the red lines are pointing the same direction, the actual rotation of the barnacle set is 180 degrees out from each other. Looking at the co-ordinates, the two sites are also on other sides of the "equator" (first set both positive, second both negative), which is probably the reason for the degree switch. Does a barnacle that's only 90 degrees off (two co-ordinates positive vs. one negative and one positive, for example) also result in a 90 degree rotation of the array?
I propose using the spike that is almost in a straight line to the two meta-spires as a start point and the furthest spire as an arrowhead (although there's nothing saying we shouldn't do the opposite)
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The issues now are, is this a line across a planet (other barnacles in the same line) or across a system/galaxy?
Which plane do we home in on as the axis? The main barnacle body has a sort of rotation effect to it so do we assume that's a reference to the spiral arms of the galaxy itself (so we know whether to look down or up)?
I'm about to come in-game so I may as well see if I can find a planet with multiple barnacles across the different axis ranges
This is an interesting idea. Perhaps each barnacled planet has a single larger, more central "control" structure which would be nearly impossible to find by chance (one spot in all the world, even for these small worlds, is still a needle in a haystack). But if barnacles are relatively common on such worlds, and if each of them is oriented such that it "points" at the base, then that would be a very straightforward way to find it (without requiring any advanced tools, either).
So I guess now we need to agree on some reference orientation (such as aligning down the two fruit-bearing spikes, with the extra spike on that axis positioned on the far side of the barnacle) and recording not only the coordinates of the formation, but the orientation. If we get several of those spread out on the same planet, we can see if their orientations converge somewhere.
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