Distant Worlds - A journey beyond the Abyss

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Very quickly: what kind of range are people getting out of their 'condas now? I've put together a package that does 33LY unladen. Is that about reasonable? (can't find the discussion on builds at the moment)

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=706,,2-7_Ba9Y8S9YD88I,53c7Um0AA0PAmpU1LU1LU5f62UI2jwm slight tweak gives 34LY

Changed the shield to 5d and 4 d boosters that gives the same strengt shields for 4 tons less and that means you can fit a srv bay that can hold 4 srvs wich takes another 3 tons off. end result same shield power and same amount of srvs little more power draw but you have enough and its 7 tons lighter for something like 0.37 more range. You could also switch down to 6d thrusters wich is what I use this will give you alot more range about 0.8 ly.

http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=706,mpa0-80-80-80-8,2-7_Ba9Y8S7_D88I,53c1Oc0AA0PA7TCmpV5f62UI2jw

heres the link with shield and srv bay changes.
 
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There you go then! What's all the fuss about?

Just turn FA off for 5 seconds, 25001 metres up!

Done! :)

To be precise, in the 5.2 seconds to reach 500 m/s you've already fallen 1.3 km.
Even if the engines would be on instantly at max right after, you will hit the ground at 115 m/s!

I did actually test that by turning on FA while falling past 28.0km, stopped at 2.45km
Reaction time, lag, engine spool up time and/or procedural ground height refinement might all be responsible for the extra 550 meters.
The ultimate challenge is to find the exact moment for a 1 FA on touch landing.

Actually it turns out your 5 seconds should keep you alive.
For any height at 9.77g the time to turn FA off for a perfect landing is root ( height / 964.6 )
At 25km, 5.09 sec FA off should stop you again at 0 meters after reaching 487 m/s, a perfect landing executed in 1 minute and 42.5 seconds.
If you can turn FA off for precisely 5.0 seconds (and engine spool up time is ignored) you should stop at 885 meters above the ground after reaching 473 m/s
The difference less than 1/10th of a second makes is rather frightening! 5.0 sec = 885 meters too high, 5.09 sec = touch down, 5.2 sec = death at 115 m/s.
I guess that's why NASA uses timers instead of human fingers :)
 
Ok, you can start to toss stones at me, I'm shielded.

THERE WILL BE NO MORE REFERENCE SYSTEMS GIVEN IN ADVANCE.
WHEN ERIMUS WILL ANNOUNCE NEXT WP PRECISE LOCATION, THAT WILL BECOME THE REFERENCE SYSTEM.
FOR EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO AHEAD, THE FLEET DISENCOURAGES THAT.


No problems here. I'm already on a bit of a parallel course for most of my flight, to widen up the exploration band a bit. That, and I seem to have no luck meeting up with anybody in person anyway. ;)

My hope right now is to get a bunch of progress made to more or less catch up, and get some prospecting time and more screenies of progress.
 
Ok, you can start to toss stones at me, I'm shielded.

THERE WILL BE NO MORE REFERENCE SYSTEMS GIVEN IN ADVANCE.
WHEN ERIMUS WILL ANNOUNCE NEXT WP PRECISE LOCATION, THAT WILL BECOME THE REFERENCE SYSTEM.
FOR EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO AHEAD, THE FLEET DISENCOURAGES THAT.

So for example if you want to know where to prospect for WP06, you have to wait Erimus announcement.
OFC the same goes here, in Trello and for Spreadsheet.

The decision came from the need to keep the fleet together in later stages of the expedition where it will be more difficult. Also some WP are around a specific system, there are not fancy nebulae everywhere, and I bet that you wouldn't like to have every area around every poi already tagged to the bone by non-expedition snipers that use cheats to make 100LY jump, go there, tag everything, and cheat their way back to the bubble.

Everybody that wants to go ahead it's on her own, they can guess where to prospect, but there will be no list to put data too.

If you are unhappy with this decision bash me and not Erimus please, he is already busy with many other stuff to the point his mail box gets filled every day.

All explorers are equal, but some are more equal than others

I am shocked at how quickly this group has followed the normal clan/cliche downward spiral, I didn't think it would happen till well after Sag A. As usual it is not the leader at fault, but their lieutenants.

I might find the time to quote the original statements about 'no leader', being able to explore as we wish, and all are welcome.

It stinks.
 
All explorers are equal, but some are more equal than others

I am shocked at how quickly this group has followed the normal clan/cliche downward spiral, I didn't think it would happen till well after Sag A. As usual it is not the leader at fault, but their lieutenants.

I might find the time to quote the original statements about 'no leader', being able to explore as we wish, and all are welcome.

It stinks.

Hehe, there's nothing stopping us from creating threads to share information.
 
My feelings after 2 weeks of expediting.

Its been great 2 weeks on the expedition so far, despite the fact that im one of the unfortunates who suffered a crash and had to start all over again from Pallaeni last week.
I have seen a lot of interesting systems, beautiful planets and also, sometimes the weirdness of procedural creation.
Last night i arrived at waypoint 5 and as always, its so much fun and so rewarding to see the other commanders gather together once a week and have a chit-chat with them at base camps. :)
Because of that, my personal experience of the Distant Worlds has been much more rewarding than i anticipated. I feared that i will be flying mostly solo without seeing anybody for the whole 12 weeks, but thanks to all the commanders who have friended me i can follow other commanders journey from the galaxy map and have a bit of bsing at base camps.
Somehow, it relaxes me greatly to see where others are going and at waypoints, its like coming home, every time.
As i said, have made a lot of new friends on this expedition and its been great to get to know all of you. Also, when traveling alone in the vast space, its always nice to have a message from someone asking how my trip is going. Again, it really brings me the strong feeling of one great fleet moving forward, keeping it together and it warms me inside very deeply.

I really hope that the fleet community stays like this until we reach the Beagle Point and hopefully also the way back.

Thank you fleet.

Fly safe commanders.

:)
 
All explorers are equal, but some are more equal than others

I am shocked at how quickly this group has followed the normal clan/cliche downward spiral, I didn't think it would happen till well after Sag A. As usual it is not the leader at fault, but their lieutenants.

I might find the time to quote the original statements about 'no leader', being able to explore as we wish, and all are welcome.

It stinks.

<Joke> Like Lord of the Flies </Joke>

It did read like an order from above, maybe its the caps, but I'm cool with no info being given out. As regards keeping the fleet together, I don't think hiding the co-ords will make any difference. People will go where they want to, and if they want to meet up at the base camp, with the ships we have its easy to jump 500ly to whatever co-ord.

To be honest, its a bit pointless exploring around the base camps anyway at the moment, the majority of the systems are already tagged. That may change later.
 
My rank went up a few percent from exploring landables. 4% ish and then went back to the bubble. Returned from the bubble with 98% pathfinder and exploring all but one planet in CL PISMIS 13 knocked it up to 99%. I have taken a screen shot and when I rank up I will take careful note how much it takes to get me to 1%.
 
I don't feel anything has really changed. I see this expedition as being about the journey, not about the destination which only serves as a long term focal point. If you don't want to stay with the fleet, why do you need to know where the exact waypoints are? I don't see the organisers as "giving orders" beyond the necessary coordination required to keep those who want to moving together.

So far, this trip has exceeded expectations. I've done several core trips previously and they always felt a bit of a grindfest. The waypoint system certainly helps to break that up into handy bite sized pieces. Now I'm more concerned about what I'm going to do after this trip is over!
 
All explorers are equal, but some are more equal than others

I am shocked at how quickly this group has followed the normal clan/cliche downward spiral, I didn't think it would happen till well after Sag A. As usual it is not the leader at fault, but their lieutenants.

I might find the time to quote the original statements about 'no leader', being able to explore as we wish, and all are welcome.

It stinks.

Yeah, it stunk for the dozens of players who signed on as cartographers and prospectors too, who would like a crack at adding meaningful data at waypoint systems. I'm getting daily PMs from people who are concerned that that aspect of the expedition is becoming exclusive to a few who raced ahead, some 10 days ahead. So yeah, god forbid something is done for the majority that may upset the minority. :rolleyes:

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I don't feel anything has really changed. I see this expedition as being about the journey, not about the destination which only serves as a long term focal point. If you don't want to stay with the fleet, why do you need to know where the exact waypoints are? I don't see the organisers as "giving orders" beyond the necessary coordination required to keep those who want to moving together.

So far, this trip has exceeded expectations. I've done several core trips previously and they always felt a bit of a grindfest. The waypoint system certainly helps to break that up into handy bite sized pieces. Now I'm more concerned about what I'm going to do after this trip is over!

Thanks Porina. Its only two or three people who seem to get upset by such small matters. Its not an issue. The vast majority are thoroughly enjoying it so far, so we must have done something right at least :)
 
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I agree, this doesn't change my experience of this whole event. And even if some people do race ahead, there are still a bunch of us following the route and waypoints. Not to mention there are tons of systems unexplored along the way.
 
For anybody in NGC 6357 (wp5) who wants to take a short trip to see a neutron star (with a couple of landable planets orbiting). PRIELUIA OB-X D1-21 is approx 125Ly "north" of the nebula. Of course remember to zero throttle on jumping in!
 
Just keep counting to ten Erimus and turn up the whale music and "grind those balls Sir grind those balls".
We all appreciate what you are doing, and you should know that you can please some of the people some of the time....
Personally I am enjoying the way it is, meeting up at set times suits me, and I have some nice images of all the ships.
 
All explorers are equal, but some are more equal than others

I am shocked at how quickly this group has followed the normal clan/cliche downward spiral, I didn't think it would happen till well after Sag A. As usual it is not the leader at fault, but their lieutenants.

I might find the time to quote the original statements about 'no leader', being able to explore as we wish, and all are welcome.

It stinks.
Keep in mind that you're requesting something from Erimus. He is not restricting you in any way in how you like to explore. What you effectively are doing is demand to be told the exact locations of the waypoints.

Erimus has put a great deal of time and effort into organising this event. Of course he will make the decision based on what is beneficial to that event. Not dependent on which people request it, the event. We are all inferiour to the requirements to make this event succesful.

This has absolutely nothing to do with clan/cliche mechanics. After all, every single one of the DW group gets told at the same time where the waypoints are situated. This is determined by the schedule.

What stinks is trying to paint this as a kind of favouritism towards a certain group.
 

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I wrote this a while back, but I figure it may become appropriate for many as we progress

Into the void

I must go once more into the void
into the eternal night
A myriad dots in the quiet blackness
Cold and hard, diamond light.

Twinkle twinkle little star,
but not out here;
not where we are.
Here amongst the whispering spheres,
who's song's not meant for human ears
A siren's call, to a deadly embrace,
the last adventure,
an endless sleep


Nice one. It's always good to see budding poets on the forums.
 
Could I just seek clarification on one aspect pls and apologies if I missed it somewhere:

Yes, I'm one of the late joiners, obviously not officially part of the expedition as I am not listed on the roster.

I am currently nearly at WP5 so basically caught up. Now, the question is, are we as latecomers allowed to participate in the meet-ups arranged or are they exclusive for roster members only?
 
Could I just seek clarification on one aspect pls and apologies if I missed it somewhere:

Yes, I'm one of the late joiners, obviously not officially part of the expedition as I am not listed on the roster.

I am currently nearly at WP5 so basically caught up. Now, the question is, are we as latecomers allowed to participate in the meet-ups arranged or are they exclusive for roster members only?

I'm sure Erimus or DrKaii will jump in here to clarify.

But from what I understand, if you were late to the party and didn't manage to get into either the initial Kamzel group or the overflow group (Patrecleus) then you will be entirely free to tag along in open play or any group of your choice.
And of course you can still gather at the posted waypoints/base camps along with others playing in open (of which there are quite a few).

The bulk of the fleet however meets up in the private groups, so you won't bump into any/many of the folks on the roster. But you should still be able to get together and have a laugh with whoever you find in open.
 
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Could I just seek clarification on one aspect pls and apologies if I missed it somewhere:

Yes, I'm one of the late joiners, obviously not officially part of the expedition as I am not listed on the roster.

I am currently nearly at WP5 so basically caught up. Now, the question is, are we as latecomers allowed to participate in the meet-ups arranged or are they exclusive for roster members only?

You cant join the main private groups, but you can definitly meet up with the commanders in open and as I understand it there are atleast a hundred or more that are doing this expedition in open:)
 
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