Your brain cant handle the scale of this game....

I like maths :)

The universe is 400,000,000,000 systems. Some are empty sure, Some have 50+ objects in them. Say that your an explorer going out and *on average* it takes you 20 minutes to scan a system. To scan every system (assuming you figured out how to jump from new system to new system without ever repeating)

Working 24/7/365 it would take you :

400,000,000,000 * 20 minutes = 8 Trillion minutes or 15.2 Million years to scan every system.

Say there's 50,000 explorers out there on average putting in 2.5 hours a day : 150 minutes * 50,000 = 7.5 Million million exploration minutes per day. Then we could explore the whole galaxy in only... 1,066,666 days or 2,922 years. (assuming nobody repeats any systems).


But wait!

There's planets now. Lets say we want to explore the planets as well. Say that a great explorer can explore 200km/sq of a planet per hour. I looked at a bunch of airless planets, lets say their radius is on average 600km, then that gives each one a surface area of 4,520,000 sq km. That would take the explorer 22,600 hours to thoroughly scan a planet. Lets say he has some new tech that allows him to scan ooh 20,000 sq/km/hour. Thats 226 hours per planet.

At a guess maybe 1/4 systems have planets and on average lets say there's 2 airless explorable planets per system with planets. So that's 200,000,000,000 planets to explore.

So to explore them with our funky new exploring tech would take... 5.1 Billion years. If there were a million explorers searching 24/7 then we could scan every planet in the game in only 5151 years.

Does that give you any idea of how huge this universe is?

Not really, it's just numbers.

Frontier could plonk down 100,000 settlements on planets around the galaxy and even if they showed up on the ADS the chances of finding them in our lifetime would be less than the chance of winning the lottery.

I'm constantly amazed by how huge this is. Take a trip to Sag A* sometime, especially if you have never been out of the bubble. What's out there? Well nothing that you will ever find, but it's an achievement, it's like making a billion credits. Beware.. it will take you a long time! Just dont expect to find anything.

Back in the day, 8 galaxies with 256 systems each was huge on my spectrum 48k. This is just another scale completely. It's an incredible achievement.
 
I keep seeing this figure, 400 bilion star systems. I think it's actually 100 billion star systems and 400 billion stars; meaning that average system in ED has 4 stars.

Anyhow, yeah... it is BIG :cool:
 
I'm constantly amazed by how huge this is. Take a trip to Sag A* sometime, especially if you have never been out of the bubble. What's out there? Well nothing that you will ever find, but it's an achievement, it's like making a billion credits. Beware.. it will take you a long time! Just dont expect to find anything.

Your not selling it, I have been about 1500ly outside the bubble and that was enough for me. :D
 
I keep seeing this figure, 400 bilion star systems. I think it's actually 100 billion star systems and 400 billion stars; meaning that average system in ED has 4 stars.

Anyhow, yeah... it is BIG :cool:

Even if it was "just" 400bil celestial bodies it would still be incomprehensively big.
I think that perhaps one of ED's biggest achievements, the size of it's game world, is also one of it's biggest problems.
 
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I keep seeing this figure, 400 bilion star systems. I think it's actually 100 billion star systems and 400 billion stars; meaning that average system in ED has 4 stars.

Anyhow, yeah... it is BIG :cool:

I asked once last year and was told 400 billion systems.
 
I scanned three systems last night, please re-do the maths to take this into account and correct :D

You are right in the conclusion, seeing the maths is one thing but big numbers don't really give a sense of scale we can comprehend.

Just 100 million pennies as an example:
10pennies_531.jpg
 
:)
Sure it not the largest galaxy, but numbers give no meaning speaking of the universe anyway. Even if we assume the universe is not limitless, numbers we can fathom give no meaning, What does 10 uplifted to 23 mean ?
There an estimated 100 Billion galaxies in univers, good luck estimating star systems :)

Cheers Cmdr's
 
No trouble with scale of universe.

My brain is logarithmic.

Instead of off by one errors, my mistakes are off by one order of magnitude.
 
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I'm pretty confident that those of us with an interest in astronomy will be unphased by those numbers.

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Yep but this game has "no depth" - lols!

That's not "depth", that's "width"!

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Well numbers are big for sure in this game / SIM.

Even when you look at NMS and as far as i know they do not have a limit. And of course SC will be bigger than all of the space sims combined because.. .. .. reasons.

I can see the problem to make a galaxy that seam connected and not just bubbles of game reality. Connecting the dots must be the real challenge in game of this magnitude.
 
One of the things I've really loved about this game is the way it's given me a real sense of scale for our solar system, our galaxy and our universe. Sure, I'm familiar with the numbers, and I'm familiar with those illustrations where you keep zooming out from human scale to planet scale to galaxy scale etc, but flying in ED from Earth to Saturn to Pluto (and how those massive planets are invisible until you get close) really makes you appreciate the sheer amount of space between the planets and then spending weeks/months in the bubble only to see in the galaxy map what a tiny area of the galaxy you're "exploring" ... that's another wake up call, and as for travelling to Sag A* (which I did in a single 15hr sitting) only to then think about the fact that this is only one galaxy amount billions, all separated by equally vast amounts of emptiness ... MIND BLOWN!
 
I like maths :)

The universe is 400,000,000,000 systems. Some are empty sure, Some have 50+ objects in them. Say that your an explorer going out and *on average* it takes you 20 minutes to scan a system. To scan every system (assuming you figured out how to jump from new system to new system without ever repeating)

Working 24/7/365 it would take you :

400,000,000,000 * 20 minutes = 8 Trillion minutes or 15.2 Million years to scan every system.

Say there's 50,000 explorers out there on average putting in 2.5 hours a day : 150 minutes * 50,000 = 7.5 Million million exploration minutes per day. Then we could explore the whole galaxy in only... 1,066,666 days or 2,922 years. (assuming nobody repeats any systems).


But wait!

There's planets now. Lets say we want to explore the planets as well. Say that a great explorer can explore 200km/sq of a planet per hour. I looked at a bunch of airless planets, lets say their radius is on average 600km, then that gives each one a surface area of 4,520,000 sq km. That would take the explorer 22,600 hours to thoroughly scan a planet. Lets say he has some new tech that allows him to scan ooh 20,000 sq/km/hour. Thats 226 hours per planet.

At a guess maybe 1/4 systems have planets and on average lets say there's 2 airless explorable planets per system with planets. So that's 200,000,000,000 planets to explore.

So to explore them with our funky new exploring tech would take... 5.1 Billion years. If there were a million explorers searching 24/7 then we could scan every planet in the game in only 5151 years.

Does that give you any idea of how huge this universe is?

Not really, it's just numbers.

Frontier could plonk down 100,000 settlements on planets around the galaxy and even if they showed up on the ADS the chances of finding them in our lifetime would be less than the chance of winning the lottery.

I'm constantly amazed by how huge this is. Take a trip to Sag A* sometime, especially if you have never been out of the bubble. What's out there? Well nothing that you will ever find, but it's an achievement, it's like making a billion credits. Beware.. it will take you a long time! Just dont expect to find anything.

Back in the day, 8 galaxies with 256 systems each was huge on my spectrum 48k. This is just another scale completely. It's an incredible achievement.

I think you mean 'galaxy' when you say 'universe'.
 
I asked once last year and was told 400 billion systems.

Could be, I am not sure. I remember Braben mentioning ~100 billion systems before. Many (majority?) of the systems in ED have more than one star, so this should bring us to ~400 billion stars, which is (optimistic) estimation of Milky way's size.
 
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