Future DLC?

[ste]

Theoretical Question, Hows the future DLC going to work? Especially for those that choose not to buy it.

The kind of game it is and the planned expansions seem to be expanding on the universe, but what happens if you dont buy it, do you just hit a brick wall?

I dont know what the planned expansions are but say for example the landing on planets thing...

So you get the DLC, you fly to the planet, you enter the atmosphere and then you land on the planet, all seamlessly possibly, but then you didnt buy the DLC do you just blow up on entry?

How are they going to separate the 2 universes basically?

 

[Robert Maynard]

So you get the DLC, you fly to the planet, you enter the atmosphere and then you land on the planet, all seamlessly possibly, but then you didnt buy the DLC do you just blow up on entry?

How are they going to separate the 2 universes basically?

In this case, the DLC may allow the pilot to install atmospheric protection equipment to their ship that is required to land on planets. Pilots without such ship protection would not be able to and would probably just blow up as you suggest.

 

[Mazhurg]

Theoretical Question, Hows the future DLC going to work? Especially for those that choose not to buy it.

The kind of game it is and the planned expansions seem to be expanding on the universe, but what happens if you dont buy it, do you just hit a brick wall?

I dont know what the planned expansions are but say for example the landing on planets thing...

So you get the DLC, you fly to the planet, you enter the atmosphere and then you land on the planet, all seamlessly possibly, but then you didnt buy the DLC do you just blow up on entry?

How are they going to separate the 2 universes basically?

Same universe, magical walls and functionality not added. In many ways similar to certain MMO expansion packs where it's not mandatory to get, but you do not get the content.

 

[Saxxon]

In this case, the DLC may allow the pilot to install atmospheric protection equipment to their ship that is required to land on planets. Pilots without such ship protection would not be able to and would probably just blow up as you suggest.

This

 

[ste]

Yeah, that one I could maybe see how they could solve the problem, but it seems like to stop non DLCers from entering a part of the game they havent paid for they are going to need lots of these type of brick wall things added to the game.

Really its going to restrict what the makers can and cant do if they have to somehow restrict certain players from experiencing it, and that might impact on the people who do have the DLC.

Same universe, magical walls and functionality not added. In many ways similar to certain MMO expansion packs where it's not mandatory to get, but you do not get the content.

Ah right, I've never played an open world online game like an MMO so I have never seen how they workaround this problem.

Really, It would be better for everyone including the game if the DLC was mandatory. Then they wouldnt have to have invisible walls or dream up other workarounds.

 

[Ayo]

In this case, the DLC may allow the pilot to install atmospheric protection equipment to their ship that is required to land on planets. Pilots without such ship protection would not be able to and would probably just blow up as you suggest.

Except in the case of planets/moons without atmospheres of course.

 

[Gen-Han-Solo]

Theoretical Question, Hows the future DLC going to work? Especially for those that choose not to buy it.

The kind of game it is and the planned expansions seem to be expanding on the universe, but what happens if you dont buy it, do you just hit a brick wall?

I dont know what the planned expansions are but say for example the landing on planets thing...

So you get the DLC, you fly to the planet, you enter the atmosphere and then you land on the planet, all seamlessly possibly, but then you didnt buy the DLC do you just blow up on entry?

How are they going to separate the 2 universes basically?

To all the pre backers it's a no brainer if you buy the game then buy the expansion pass at the same time . The understanding is if frontier keep supporting the game then you get all expansions with out having to buy them one at a time simples . And a lot more cost effective than missing out on part of the game because you did not buy an expansion pack .

 

[metatheurgist]

Then they wouldnt have to have invisible walls or dream up other workarounds.

Being space they have some options, they could just remove/move key systems that act as bridges from one part of the galaxy to another. So one guy has a stepping stone planet and another doesn't.

Except in the case of planets/moons without atmospheres of course.

They could also implement security passes and shoot down people without access, or simply make those areas really hostile.

 

[ste]

To all the pre backers it's a no brainer if you buy the game then buy the expansion pass at the same time . The understanding is if frontier keep supporting the game then you get all expansions with out having to buy them one at a time simples . And a lot more cost effective than missing out on part of the game because you did not buy an expansion pack .

Me too, its a must have, I'm just wondering if the non DLCers because of the nature of the game will inevitably negatively impact the players who do have the DLC.

Should the DLC be forced on people, because its the only way the game can be properly played, or are they really not given any choice but to buy it because having too many brick walls in a sandox kind of stops it being a sandbox.

Will having non DLCers in the universe restrict the way and the options the devs have to add to the universe so as its not a case of you must buy the DLC or it will get messy. Are they going to be limited to non game changes like bobbleheads for cockpits for example.

Its a bit hard to explain and I dont think I'm doing a very good job

 

[Cosmo Bozo]

Being space they have some options, they could just remove/move key systems that act as bridges from one part of the galaxy to another. So one guy has a stepping stone planet and another doesn't.

Everyone gets the same galaxy. They can't just move stuff about.

They could also implement security passes and shoot down people without access, or simply make those areas really hostile.

Makes no sense in an uninhabited system.


People who don't buy the DLC will see no changes from the first release, people who do will have new options and content, I don't see a problem

 

[Im_Lost]

TBH I think you probably just wont get to download the planet content, so you would continue to see the basic planet models no matter how close you get.

 

[insanephoton]

We only know for sure about 2 main expansions Walking about and Planetary landing. The first one is easy, if you don't download the expansion you never leave your seat. The second one is going to be harder to explain, but I guess whatever prevents us from landing in the initial release will remain with the people who don't download it, and those that bought it will be able to land. This does potentially bring up issues about shard instances. Will players be segregated by whether they have the downloads or not? Not so great if I want to meet up with a friend and they haven't bought the expansion.

 

[ste]

We only know for sure about 2 main expansions Walking about and Planetary landing. The first one is easy, if you don't download the expansion you never leave your seat. The second one is going to be harder to explain, but I guess whatever prevents us from landing in the initial release will remain with the people who don't download it, and those that bought it will be able to land. This does potentially bring up issues about shard instances. Will players be segregated by whether they have the downloads or not? Not so great if I want to meet up with a friend and they haven't bought the expansion.

But there needs to be a reason to get out and walk around or it will just be for the fun of it, if some players cant get out and walk around the makers cant really have it play a very important role because of the players that cant do it.

Will landing on planets be forced to have a loading screen just so non dlcers arent effected.

I'm thinking they cant do too much different with expansions if its going to hurt or effect the people who dont have the expansion to the point they really need it. The DLC has to be slightly pointless if you get what I mean.

 

[Cosmo Bozo]

Not really, adding a mission that requires you to land and get out of the ship doesn't hurt people who can't do that if they can't see the mission or accept it, they still have all the content they had before.

The game will be perfectly playable before the expansions, they can add whatever they want, whole storylines, mission types, ground based factions...etc... and if the players without DLC can't see it, then it won't hurt them.

 

[insanephoton]

The potential depth that they could have in the expansions is amazing. I get the impression that if they were just putting them in for the sake of having them, they could have had both walking about and planetary landings in the initial release. The reason why they won't be there is because David Braben wants to do them justice.

Imagine the scene, you've just docked your Cobra. You get out and walk to a seedy bar on the station. You meet a contact, who offers you a contract to supply arms to a rebel group on the fringe of Imperial space. You fly to a smuggler station and pick up the guns. You then have a tense time trying to sneak past Imperial Navy patrols to get to the planet. You fly down through a storm to a jungle clearing to meet the rebels, all the time wondering if you might have been setup.

And if you just had the vanilla game, you'd just have docked, done some trading and maybe fixed up you ship, then taken off to go to the next station completely oblivious to what you could have been doing if you'd got the expansions

 

[TerranAmbassador]

And if you just had the vanilla game, you'd just have docked, done some trading and maybe fixed up you ship, then taken off to go to the next station completely oblivious to what you could have been doing if you'd got the expansions

And I am quite happy with that. Can't miss what you don't know exists.

 

[antonymurray]

extra

If you really love this game then dont be tight get the DLC hope fully there will be more than 2 may be other ones will take the form of extra ships extra mods extra missions I personally dont mind paying for extra features

 

[TerranAmbassador]

If you really love this game then dont be tight get the DLC hope fully there will be more than 2 may be other ones will take the form of extra ships extra mods extra missions I personally dont mind paying for extra features

Don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to the planetary landing expansion, for example, but why would I miss, say, avatar gameplay if I never intended to get it in the first place?

The game has me sold, but not so much as to buy expansions I have absolutely zero interest in using.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Hopefully 2? AFAIK there will be up to 5 with 2 certain, and also that will be the major ones. There will also be free mini updates and I imagine ships will be in the free patches, after all if I have a cobra Mk 4 then surely everyone has to have it for the game to still work

 

[rlr149]

ARMA 2 did 'lite' versions of their DLC's with low res textures, allows everyone to play even if haven't bought the DLC

something like that maybe?