News Elite Dangerous - Steam And Store Sale

[CMDR Dozerboy]

i dont get it.

Just cause 3 came out in december, at a cost of £40. right now it is on sale on steam at 25% off, but i have seen it as low as £20.

all games have price cuts, some far faster than others. in the grand scheme of things compared to most games elite has held its value more than most imo. Admitedly horizons HAS price cut far faster than the launch game did, but even so, it is no faster than many games

Just Cause 3 is a trash game whose sales probably did not meet projections. Horizons should be an update to Elite Dangerous and not what it has devolved into.

GTAV over the holiday season just had the largest online, player turnout in its history even though the game was released in 2013. Rockstar studios has attributed this success to the fact of free DLC and continued support of a beloved game that doesn't' separate it's player base with pay-walls. Treat people right and the profits will be there...Frontier

 

[Genar-Hofoen]

I'm extra excited to find out how a Fed or Imp Fighter is going to make any difference to a T7's TTL when it is interdicted by anything larger and badder than a Sidewinder, so something else happen then the pirate takes up position 500m aft of the T7's fighter bay after you are dropped, and the CMDR and his fighter get turned into a new kind of metallic confetti upon launching.

Are you reworking small fighters' scanner visiblity or weapon targetability? Are they going to have Cobra-beating speed as well as Eagle-beating manoeuvrability?

It seems that comms policy precludes talking in any detail about expansions beyond N+1, but on the knowledge that we currently have, a lot of players are more cynical than I am about Ship Launched Fighters. I'll be pleasantly surprised when you're able to share why they are so exciting.

I'm trying to work out what happens to the main ship after a fighter's been launched. Does it sit there pilotless and vulnerable whilst you're off pewpewing in your fighter?

 

[CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE]

I'm trying to work out what happens to the main ship after a fighter's been launched. Does it sit there pilotless and vulnerable whilst you're off pewpewing in your fighter?

And what happens if you are in the fighter and AI is controlling your ship and you fire on your own ship? Does the AI starting shooting back?

 

[Ian Phillips]

I see a test scenario for the Beta

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Unfortunately and from what I hear through/from the playerbase Frontier has never been further away from "What we want" as in Season 2 And as a big fan I am deeply sorry to say that .

I was so SO excited for multicrew.... way more so than landing on planets, for me it was the best update for the game so far... then i learned that it is no longer the multicrew outlined for the game by the devs before launch but it was the same as wings....... ie support for multiplayer stuff only.

with that in mind, i have decided not to get too hopeful on anything going forward, then i can only be pleased when something comes out as it was initially outlined.

That being said,
engineers may be interesting, i like the sound of contacts with faces, and any love to the missions can only be a good thing.
but that is a separate issue from the sale price of the game imo.

 

[who?]

And what happens if you are in the fighter and AI is controlling your ship and you fire on your own ship? Does the AI starting shooting back?

Good question!

Does it start rolling over and over? Maybe it follows you like a puppy "You're a hard one to track down.. You're a hard one to track down.."

It's interesting too to see which ships can carry fighters, I've seen mention that the Keelback is the smallest 'carrier'; so I'll need to look up the ship size comparison video to see which ships that rules in and out.

 

[wstephenson]

And what happens if you are in the fighter and AI is controlling your ship and you fire on your own ship? Does the AI starting shooting back?

I'd say you get a bounty, a dozen Vipers drop into the instance and destroy the fighter and your ship and depart, leaving the pirate performing an extended "tickle me" roll manoeuvre out of pure AI joy.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Just Cause 3 is a trash game

are you kidding? Just cause is brilliant imo!..... i cant wait for co-op PvE mahem to augment your career, when that comes in (even if not official am sure it will be fan made like in JC2).
But ok then, what about shadow of mordor, arguably a GOTY contender when that came out, that price dropped quickly too.... or MGS V

 

[Ian Phillips]

And this has not a lot to do with the OP

Please keep the discussion On Topic. Thank you.

 

[CMDR Dozerboy]

are you kidding? Just cause is brilliant imo!..... i cant wait for co-op PvE mahem to augment your career, when that comes in (even if not official am sure it will be fan made like in JC2).
But ok then, what about shadow of mordor, arguably a GOTY contender when that came out, that price dropped quickly too.... or MGS V

That's fine if you like JC3, but IMO it's not a quality game... I do enjoy the other two you mentioned though, but I've been commenting in reference to Frontier's sale and the pricing of Horizons in relationship to a broken foundation that is Elite Dangerous.

 

[forumuser8276]

Why does it matter what someone else pays for ED?

It matters because ED development is being financed by crowdfunding. Only 20% of Horizons has been released and sales now are paying for the development of the remaining 80% until the end of this year or further. The less someone pays for Horizons now, the greater the chance that previous buyers aren't going to receive the Horizons game for which they paid $60 at launch.

Games go on sale all the time.

Finished games go on sale all the time. For an unfinished game to go on sale is a sign that it may never get finished.

My advice for anyone this dissastified by a game is to walk away.

I think we can all see what that's likely to do to an unfinished crowdfunded game like this one. Hint: see the above.

 

[Valorin]

Stop feeding the trolls please.

 

[Hydrino]

It matters because ED development is being financed by crowdfunding. Only 20% of Horizons has been released and sales now are paying for the development of the remaining 80% until the end of this year or further. The less someone pays for Horizons now, the greater the chance that previous buyers aren't going to receive the Horizons game for which they paid $60 at launch.

Finished games go on sale all the time. For an unfinished game to go on sale is a sign that it may never get finished.

I think we can all see what that's likely to do to an unfinished crowdfunded game like this one. Hint: see the above.

The game is no longer crowd funded unless you consider WOW or any other game that charges for DLC or expansions to be crowd funded. Sales of the game (and cosmetic items) since the end of 2014 have funded updates and expansions. Plus some Microsoft money for the XB1 timed exclusive.

FD is in the best position to know how discounts and other promotions influence their sales and how they can best maximize them. They also have a Horizons release on XB1 to roll out and the subsequent sales from that. They have sold well over a million copies of ED. I am not worried about Season 2 being finished at all.

But to be clear, FD have clearly stated they will continue to develop Elite Dangerous for over a decade if player interest holds. Therefore you should define "finished" carefully.

 

[Slopey]

It matters because ED development is being financed by crowdfunding. Only 20% of Horizons has been released and sales now are paying for the development of the remaining 80% until the end of this year or further. The less someone pays for Horizons now, the greater the chance that previous buyers aren't going to receive the Horizons game for which they paid $60 at launch.

Finished games go on sale all the time. For an unfinished game to go on sale is a sign that it may never get finished.

I think we can all see what that's likely to do to an unfinished crowdfunded game like this one. Hint: see the above.

/mod-hat off

ED *was* developed with crowdfunding. That is no longer the case, and the capital investment that FD has received over the last few years completely outstrips the amount raised in the kickstarter, so you're way way behind the curve information wise.

Also, you might have missed it so I'll spell it out for you:

HORIZONS IS A ...... SEASON ...... PASS

Name me one other game or product EVER in existence whereby the entire content for the YEAR WORTH OF UPDATES was completed before the SEASON PASS for that year was made available to buy???

...........

Thought not.

Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Don't play it? Don't post about it.
Don't want it? See 1.

Simples.

 

[Cosmos]

It matters because ED development is being financed by crowdfunding. Only 20% of Horizons has been released and sales now are paying for the development of the remaining 80% until the end of this year or further. The less someone pays for Horizons now, the greater the chance that previous buyers aren't going to receive the Horizons game for which they paid $60 at launch.



Finished games go on sale all the time. For an unfinished game to go on sale is a sign that it may never get finished.



I think we can all see what that's likely to do to an unfinished crowdfunded game like this one. Hint: see the above.

Got to say your argument is incredibly tiresome. Heaps of games on steam are infact still in easrly access and go on sale all the time.. Talk about the doom and gloom of ED struggling for funding are unsubstantiated - only FD knows their revenue income atm but I'm sure we'll get the full info when as a listed company they make their financial report. For a fully independent development studio I think you'll find that FD are water tight and the games development is funded for quite some time, which includes hiccups along the way.

I usually refrain from such sort of personal statements but you arent adding much to the discussion but appear to be motivated by spite and resentfulness. I said this a while back but if you do feel so aggrevied by the game and so obviously angry then why not walk away? Despite your posts to the contary I dont think you do have the game or the communities best interests at heart.

No one will miss you, you'll feel much better, go find another space game thats better than ED.. I wish you good fortune but I think I've had enough of your bile to put you on ignore.. Its a special place only reserved for a small number.. Gratz.

 

[CMDR Dozerboy]

/mod-hat off

ED *was* developed with crowdfunding. That is no longer the case, and the capital investment that FD has received over the last few years completely outstrips the amount raised in the kickstarter, so you're way way behind the curve information wise.

Also, you might have missed it so I'll spell it out for you:

HORIZONS IS A ...... SEASON ...... PASS

Name me one other game or product EVER in existence whereby the entire content for the YEAR WORTH OF UPDATES was completed before the SEASON PASS for that year was made available to buy???

...........

Thought not.

Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Don't play it? Don't post about it.
Don't want it? See 1.

Simples.

If the base game is broken and glitchy and doesn't do what it advertises and you've paid full price; what right do they have to sell a SEASON PASS at any cost?

Let me spell it out for you:

We don't care if they provided 10 million YEARS WORTH OF UPDATES! The game doesn't do what it advertises and we have every right to complain about it and vote with our wallets.

I hate to speak with illustrations, but it's seems like it's needed for some to understand- if you went to go lease a car, for a year, and they delivered it to you with no transmission or steering column and you've already paid for that year with no recourse to settle the discrepancy; how would that make you feel if at the end of that year they offered you a discount on a newer model that, alas, has no transmission or steering column? And then they tell you not to write any negative google reviews about their business.

This is on topic and we shouldn't be subjected to request to censor ourselves.

You should keep the hat on

 

[slothman320]

If the base game is broken and glitchy and doesn't do what it advertises and you've paid full price; what right do they have to sell a SEASON PASS at any cost?

Let me spell it out for you:

We don't care if they provided 10 million YEARS WORTH OF UPDATES! The game doesn't do what it advertises and we have every right to complain about it and vote with our wallets.

I hate to speak with illustrations, but it's seems like it's needed for some to understand- if you went to go lease a car, for a year, and they delivered it to you with no transmission or steering column and you've already paid for that year with no recourse to settle the discrepancy; how would that make you feel if at the end of that year they offered you a discount on a newer model that, alas, has no transmission or steering column? And then they tell you not to write any negative google reviews about their business.

This is on topic and we shouldn't be subjected to request to censor ourselves.

You should keep the hat on

Your complaint isn't invalid here. Its the same frustration I'm feeling as well. But the issue is that without a steering column or a transmission the car doesn't move at all. Instead we're driving the bare minimum of a car, with vinyl seat covers recently slapped on. See where I'm going with this? We're missing several features that while not vital are very important to the enjoyment of the game. And with the "guardians update" you might as well give us a bumper sticker when we don't have a bumper to put it on.

 

[who?]

Though I'm not always entirely fond of FD's communications, I do think they're stuck between a rock and a hard place here.

Keep the price as is, and potential customers will complain that's it's not good value paying full price for a year+ old game. Drop the price, and existing customers will complain they feel they've been taken for a ride. Offer existing customers some kind of exclusive bonus to appease them, and new customers complain again about being excluded. Remove the exclusive and existing customers feel they've been lied to.

Only one solution, let's all go play SC. I hear everything's all peachy over that side of the universe.

 

[CMDR Dozerboy]

Your complaint isn't invalid here. Its the same frustration I'm feeling as well. But the issue is that without a steering column or a transmission the car doesn't move at all. Instead we're driving the bare minimum of a car, with vinyl seat covers recently slapped on. See where I'm going with this? We're missing several features that while not vital are very important to the enjoyment of the game. And with the "guardians update" you might as well give us a bumper sticker when we don't have a bumper to put it on.

I do see where you are going with this and I totally respect that, but I do think that functions like WINGS are vital and are broken. Outside of that I agree with you.

 

[Cosmos]

Though I'm not always entirely fond of FD's communications, I do think they're stuck between a rock and a hard place here.

Keep the price as is, and potential customers will complain that's it's not good value paying full price for a year+ old game. Drop the price, and existing customers will complain they feel they've been taken for a ride. Offer existing customers some kind of exclusive bonus to appease them, and new customers complain again about being excluded. Remove the exclusive and existing customers feel they've been lied to.

Only one solution, let's all go play SC. I hear everything's all peachy over that side of the universe.

Indeed, if I were FD I wouldnt be so cordial as they are.. Yet I've seen a vast improvement over time, dont you ?

I've never seen this sort of thing previously and I've been onling gaming for a very long time. You think this is just something about spaceships?