Best Joystick/Throttle (my opinion only)

I have the t-Flight HOTAS and its awesome, has most of the same features at 1/3 the price. Thrustmaster Warthog is way out of my price range.
 
Well i have been using the thrustmaster t-flight x, which for the money is a supurb stick, and i felt very comfortable using it. But the only problem with it was a lack of buttons and hats, which for games like ED and in the future SC is a bit of a hinderence, i got round this by using roccat tablets and macro keyboards.

But the truth is i always wanted more to hand, so i recently bought the x52 from Amazon. A lot of money for me yes, but they have recently come down to just under the 100 mark.

And i love it, i noticed the fact many say the joystick has too little resistance and you can place inserts in the spring to stiffen it, but i find the long stick with longer travel and smooth with little resistance is great, and enables more precise control without fighting the stick.
The Throttle was very stiff at first, even after turning the dial all the way down, but this is wearing in nicely, much better now.

The buttons and controls all seem natural and in good positions to fit my hands, and so many control options too, lovely lights realy finish it off and add to immersion.
I have two macros set in the saitek software (these will not be in the binds file), one for request docking, and the other is exteral camera, which presses the "enter" button as well, this works well to turn it off too if you disable the "enter" key for quick coms in the settings.
(also note: the docking macro is set to the mouse button, not the mouse stick as shown)

Well as customary for me, i spent some time working on my profile, and here it is for those that like it, including binds file.

Binds file is here: http://1drv.ms/1PTjmlm

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While I was considering HOTAS it was the absence of twist rudder that was decisive not in favour of Warthog.
 
But don't just take my word; BATMAN himself uses one!

Someone somewhere listed all the films the X52 has appeared in. Granted - some were dire films, but it's nice that prop peeps can pick up a stick that they think is suitably "real" from their local PC store :)

Also - isn't there a CH stick in Interstellar?
 
After much investigation I'm thinking of getting the CH stick. Can't settle my mind on the flight stick or the combat stick. They both look very similar and not much difference in cost.

My understanding is that there are only four players in the HOTAS market? Thrust master, Saitek, Razer and CH?
 
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I was online and saw this post for the first response. But I decided to wait.

Meanwhile my Saitek X-55 as well as a few hundred thousand X-52s (which Frontier Developments offered for sale in the past) are doing just fine hitting the Billion credit assets in the game. If one wants to fly a Warthog then get X-Plane. If they think the Warthog is better than any other controller in ED then I'll see you in the black. It's not about the controller. It is about the Pilot skills. A cheaper Saitek Cyborg Evo can beat you in combat with a great Pilot using it. Let's go play...
 
I have the t-Flight HOTAS and its awesome, has most of the same features at 1/3 the price. Thrustmaster Warthog is way out of my price range.

Ditto. Value for money, and potentially on outright quality, this stick takes a lot of beating.... on many levels of that expression....
 
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Sigh, sigh, I have a x52 Pro, sigh, its a lovely joystick, but build quality is in the woods. Mine has gone about 2200 hours and is acting up now, sigh, last night stick suddenly died in middle of game, and I had to log off.
The throttle/stick combo is the most versatile on market, but build quality is down the drain. And so is Saitek according to finacial markets.

Cheers Cmdr's
 
I saw in the news recently the local authorities showcase their new high-tech ultra realistic disaster simulator.
Their controller of choice is Logitech Extreme 3D pro :D
 
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OK, just to show MY geekiness (not sure if that is a good or bad thing), the new USS Enterprise uses the Symbol M2007 barcode scanner on the main bridge console! They also have a couple of what appear to be Metrologic Voyager scanners on the console back left!

http://www.barcoding.com/prodpages/Symbol/cyclonelores.jpg

http://confluence.laundrycard.com/d...rsion=1&modificationDate=1291393743087&api=v2

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20091129164342&path-prefix=en

I'll see your geekness, and raise you another Thrustmaster screenshot, this time from The Martian, on the flight deck of the Hermes:

TheMartian_MartiRomances_HERMES.jpg
 
While I was considering HOTAS it was the absence of twist rudder that was decisive not in favour of Warthog.

Same here. Heck, even when I had rudders, I still liked having the twist axis for other things. Having sold off my old X52 and rudders literally just days before the Elite Kickstarter happened (and I didn't find out about that for quite some time, either, or I'd have supported it instantly), I ended up picking up an X55 for Elite and NMS. I've got my eye on a Slaw device eventually, but that's probably quite some time away yet. Even though I have the room and rig for it, it'd be in the way as much as it'd get used.

And as for X52, I heard so much bad press about it... hope it holds up for you. Hard to beat all those buttons and hats, for sure. But I heard that reliability just isn't there.
While Saitek has some QA issues here and there, most notoriously when they release a new device, the reliability iis simply not as bad as many would make it seem. I used to support the hardware Microsoft sold, back in the days before and just after their original Force Feedback units. I was also involved in the actual development of some of them. We tested a lot of different devices and what we found was that pure plastic builds would get abused and broken quickly by certain folks while being extremely reliable for others. Those who slam their devices around will, of course, wear them out faster! Those who have had actual flight experience (or just tend to be less excitable in general), however, found them perfectly suitable. While that was some time ago, I've noticed the same trend with those who disclaim Saitek's reliability. I owned the X52 and used it daily in flight sims for years before finally getting bored of the existing sims. I've now owned an X55 for a year and it's held up perfectly fine as well. I've found it to have plenty of switches, etc. The only thing it lacks that I'd really like to have is an analog hat. There's an analog thingie but they made it into a mouse interface, which is a weird choice IMO, and it isn't quite sensitive enough to serve as a thruster input for me. Aside from that one lack, it's a great choice for anyone. The removable joystick is a huge benefit for storing it, too, if that's something someone needs.

Joysticks on a bridge panel in a space ship I can understand, but BARCODE SCANNERS!
They're great for turning into a sort of scanner interface. They have the added benefit of having a laser already included, which is often repurposed elsewhere. You might be surprised how many pretty ordinary things get used by props departments. A friend's wife is a buyer for movie production companies. She's told many stories about how finding 75 of a particular thing is often way more hassle than you'd think, yet movie production crews almost never buy only one or two of anything. There's more cost in paying someone to acquire stuff for them than in the actual stuff they're getting, more often than not. That's way OT, though. :)


Edit: Forgot to add that the X55 also lacks a throttle detent at 0. This is actually rather annoying, for me, but obviously I managed to accommodate myself to it. Still, it's something that seems like a pretty major oversight in general, considering how important that can be in many situations. I use the slider switch which, oddly, isn't a real game input but instead simply something that the Saitek software can use for different things. I bound mine to the throttle reverse button I mapped (`) and it works OK. There are a few times I forget to take the throttle out of reverse mode, though, which can be somewhat annoying.

Other than those 2 things, however, I am quite happy with my X55.
 
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My set up is Warthog + X55 throttle + crosswind pedals, who needs twist (after using the x55, which has twist then going to the warthog with pedals I'd never go back again the control is just so good).
 
I saw in the news recently the local authorities showcase their new high-tech ultra realistic disaster simulator.
Their controller of choice is Logitech Extreme 3D pro :D

*Sobs* Why did you have to remind me of my awesome Logitech? It recently committed suicide..I like to think it was because it had succumbed to the same realisation that hit Alexander The Great "..he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer" - I could be wrong about that however! I'm back using my old Hotas X now..Jesus, how does anyone use fixed weapons on anything smaller than a Cobra with this piece of rubbish?
 
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While I was considering HOTAS it was the absence of twist rudder that was decisive not in favour of Warthog.

Twist joys are horrible and a flight abomination :) If one should try a different concept I would go for a dual joystick solution.

I prefer the good old concept HOTAS and Rudder pedals, of a good quality.

Best build would be a black mamba JS base with the warthog stick, the warthog throttle, and a Slaw device pedal set.
 
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