UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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You guys think there's any merit into making OO <-> Maia b1ba passes? Search for story based NPC, SSs, NPC-Conversations, or something else that could make a rare appearance? Haven't seen anyone else saying they're looking, yet. Barnacles are still the hot topic.

Palin was suppose to be our "Hands on" (Poking UAs with a stick) scientist while the rest of us search the stars. Now he's gone and I want there to be a trail of breadcrumbs. Some corrupted carrier signal that needs translating. Points to an area of space or a POI, where there's a wreckage and a black box spouting jumbled audio leading on and raising suspicion of alien attacks, government cover ups, and wealthy NPC-ish individuals who are as curious as us and willing to dump credits to find an answer. Like the big treasure hunt, but instead of money the reward is a story. I'm doubting it exists though, this is starting to feel like a "Keep flying around till the next update" quest. Just like the past updates.

It really bugs me that there's something, alien or not, interested in OO (Ludicrous speed DBX) and as soon as palin walks out the door he goes missing. Shouldn't we be seeing more weird things around there? Hearing about weird things? Not just in galnet, but there in that space? Unless all they wanted was Palin, in which yeah. There's nothing to see till the next NPC sacri-scientist steps up to the plate. I've not seen anything, and haven't heard of anyone else seeing anything, so its getting hard to work up the motivation to keep caring.

TL;DR Is there any chance searching for Palin will reward us with story discovery? Or do we keep doing what we do till the next galnet post?

The only thing I can think of at the moment, is to search Maia b1ba for a wreck. That place isn't exactly bright, so it want be easy. That's if there is a wreck at all.
 
The only thing I can think of at the moment, is to search Maia b1ba for a wreck. That place isn't exactly bright, so it want be easy. That's if there is a wreck at all.
Brightness isn't a real issue on Maia b1ba.
The (small) planet seems very dark when approaching it in SC, but once you hit orbital cruise, it lights up for a bit, and canyons and colour-differences become much more appearant.

I've spend the last couple of days, searching around Maia b1ba.
Entered allot of SSS/WSS/USS, only to find the inevitable pirate gangs...sometimes in wings of 3 Anaconda's.
I also have been cruising the planet's surface for a bit, to no avail.
And I went to it's very closeby neighbour - Maia b1b, which is tidally locked - but so far I found nothing of interest.

Yesterday, I went to the only planet settlement in this region, Pavlou Keep on Maia b1d.
It appears to be some mining claim, or scientific thing.
I destroyed it's defences, and scanned the data point...still have to return to Federal space to deliver those, but how can I tell if the data will contain anything of importance?

To be honest, the only object in the area that keeps me interested, is the black hole Maia B.
It's pretty small, but very very near.
 
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To be honest, the only object in the area that keeps me interested, is the black hole Maia B.
It's pretty small, but very very near.

Speaking of black holes that happen to be 410 million years old, Maia B is one. And this article talks about supernova radiation affecting evolution on earth http://www.ineffableisland.com/2012/04/nearby-supernovae-affecting-life-on.html

Well I wouldn't be doing my part if I didn't over read into things. 410 million years ago on earth (before that radiation would hit) was the devonian period. When the first Seed Bearing Plants appeared and Free-sporing plants spread across dry land. Its also dubbed the "Age of Fish".

Spores (UAs), plants (Barnacles) and the Age of Fish (Whale noises). Whales aren't fish but still the coincidences on the age merit reckless speculation.


 
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Don't go on vacation... I think I left my ship in the Pleiades and haven't found it yet... meanwhile the threadnaught marches on.

Version 4 needed an update.
Version 5 was "running" too fast (500 posts/day) and not everyone had time to read it all.
So, we had to reduce it's speed in version 6 :D, but we left all the useful innovations (like Front Page).

Thank you both. I'll have a quick skim and will return at some point during Version 8: "The Big Kahuna".
 
Hey guys, I've been away and mostly lurking, so I've got a lot of catching-up to do. However, as soon as I read yesterday's Galnet article on the 600k word report released on the disappearance of SS1, I had to post. So let me shamelessly redirect you to my post, on the threadnought dedicated to SS1 and Halsey. Canonners, we need to ask the right questions now, I want all the intel I can get on the crew of SS1, starting with Nick Baron.
 
This has probably been answered before, sorry if so: Michael posted some time ago he couldn't tell which other systems/nebulae had barnies, as that would give away the criteria for their existence. Is there are a list of things that are somewhat special about Pleiades that most other nebulae don't have?
 
This has probably been answered before, sorry if so: Michael posted some time ago he couldn't tell which other systems/nebulae had barnies, as that would give away the criteria for their existence. Is there are a list of things that are somewhat special about Pleiades that most other nebulae don't have?

Yes - Barnacles...

Sorry, that was unhelpful and probably rather unnecessary... :D
 
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THIS FOR ME! I have been asking that since people figured out the UAs were sending Morse.

Morse is a code (as opposed to a cypher). A code is a mapping from some meaningful unit (word, sentence, phrase) into something else (usually a shorter group of symbols). It would be extremely difficult to try to decipher a code if you did not know the language it was written in, similar to our problem with Egyptian until we found the Rosetta Stone. You might figure out a pattern (short-short-long) but you really couldn't get more meaning out of that unless you had a codebook. Codes require a codebook.

If it was Thargoids, why would they use a human code which is unknown to most humans? Morse is archaic at best. More meaning could be had by a sequence of atomic numbers or frequencies, which would be universally known by a civilization capable of starflight. If you are trying to communicate with someone you don't share a language with, the first thing you'd transmit is a decode primer (see again Rosetta Stone) with, say, "iron = FE = 55.845 U = HELLO WORLD."

When we sent out the Voyager ships, we did exactly this; we also included music because those harmonic sequences are also universal (whether we like the sound/frequencies or not). Remember 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'?

Also, we had contact with Thargoids before; we came to some kind of uneasy peace with them after awhile. Thus, they'd know human languages; why would they bother with Morse? If the UAs were merely transmitting an "i am here" signal, they wouldn't need anything complex; any repeating rhythmic signal would suffice (and be parsimonious regarding power and reach of signal).

I'm betting on the UAs/barnacles coming from a human source - maybe/probably the lost colony ships?

The way I "justify" Morse Code to myself is this, very briefly ....

It was a very early form of mass communication that dominated the radio frequency air waves and would have leaked into space. It radiated at the speed of light.

It was invented about 150 years ago, but probably was in mass use only about 75 years in the past. Let's say 100 years to keep the maths simple. At that rate, the radio signals have only radiated as far as 100 light years from Sol.

Our galaxy is 100,000 light years in diameter. So any intelligent life out in the galaxy that has managed to get as close as 100 light years from Sol would start picking up Morse Code messages. So I guess they have managed to decode them and are using this "primitive communication method" as a means to communicate with us.

Could I be right ?
 
The way I "justify" Morse Code to myself is this, very briefly ....

It was a very early form of mass communication that dominated the radio frequency air waves and would have leaked into space. It radiated at the speed of light.

It was invented about 150 years ago, but probably was in mass use only about 75 years in the past. Let's say 100 years to keep the maths simple. At that rate, the radio signals have only radiated as far as 100 light years from Sol.

Our galaxy is 100,000 light years in diameter. So any intelligent life out in the galaxy that has managed to get as close as 100 light years from Sol would start picking up Morse Code messages. So I guess they have managed to decode them and are using this "primitive communication method" as a means to communicate with us.

Could I be right ?

Maybe. I am currently more inclined to guess that it is not alien comunication, but communication from the lost pioneers using Thargoid technology. And they are not communicating with us, but communicating about us back to themselves. They want to go home. Why the Thargoids are helping? No clue. But considering what we did to them last time, they may want so protection. So the probes that are looking for us have been modified so they disable our technology. That way the colonists can go home, but we cant take the Thargoids out. When we find the lost colonists, we should put them in quarantine. We won't, but we should.
 
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Yes - Barnacles...

Sorry, that was unhelpful and probably rather unnecessary... :D

The Pleiades is a diffuse (reflection) nebula, it has a dark hemisphere and a bright hemisphere, contains an open cluster of stars.

The way I "justify" Morse Code to myself is this, very briefly ....

It was a very early form of mass communication that dominated the radio frequency air waves and would have leaked into space. It radiated at the speed of light.

It was invented about 150 years ago, but probably was in mass use only about 75 years in the past. Let's say 100 years to keep the maths simple. At that rate, the radio signals have only radiated as far as 100 light years from Sol.

Our galaxy is 100,000 light years in diameter. So any intelligent life out in the galaxy that has managed to get as close as 100 light years from Sol would start picking up Morse Code messages. So I guess they have managed to decode them and are using this "primitive communication method" as a means to communicate with us.

Could I be right ?

I believe Morse code as code is a misconception. It's a cipher isn't it? Much like tap code is a cipher.

Barnacles noise has yet to be solved. Afaik there have been no identified repetitions... This to me suggests:

The message is super long than current recordings.
The message is super short and it's not repeated in the same order each time.
A decryption key/method is needed to find the looping message.
 
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The way I "justify" Morse Code to myself is this, very briefly ....

It was a very early form of mass communication that dominated the radio frequency air waves and would have leaked into space. It radiated at the speed of light.

It was invented about 150 years ago, but probably was in mass use only about 75 years in the past. Let's say 100 years to keep the maths simple. At that rate, the radio signals have only radiated as far as 100 light years from Sol.

Our galaxy is 100,000 light years in diameter. So any intelligent life out in the galaxy that has managed to get as close as 100 light years from Sol would start picking up Morse Code messages. So I guess they have managed to decode them and are using this "primitive communication method" as a means to communicate with us.

Could I be right ?

To adjust what you're saying, the game is set in the year 3302 currently, and morse was commonly broadcast in the early to mid 1900's, so we're talking over 1300 years that morse code signals could be propagating out into space from Earth. That leaves a very large bubble in the galaxy that would definitely include the Pleiades as well as Barnard's Loop and many points in all directions besides.

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It appears to flicker if you are moving, which suggests a graphics "glitch" (I'm using glitch loosely, but more of an artefact of your movement) It seems steady if you are still. Yes, it only seems to be visible this far away when on the night time at the location of the barnacle.

Do you think the visibility at night time is a result of daylight from the nearby star drowning out the green light, or is it actually not giving off a green light during local daytime?
 
To adjust what you're saying, the game is set in the year 3302 currently, and morse was commonly broadcast in the early to mid 1900's, so we're talking over 1300 years that morse code signals could be propagating out into space from Earth. That leaves a very large bubble in the galaxy that would definitely include the Pleiades as well as Barnard's Loop and many points in all directions besides.

Yes! Thanks for the correction ! True what you say, it would indeed include those regions + rep. ;)
 
So far all the evidence points to the whole thing revolving around the Pleiades:

  • UAs all call home to a star in the Pleiades (Merope).
  • Barnacles are only known to occur in the vicinity of the Pleiades (so far).
  • The barnacle logo does fit the Pleiades quite well (all the main components are there, in roughly the right positions).
  • The weird ‘fastmod’ diamondback explorers were sighted in the Pleiades (Maia).

Also important: Nobody has yet found a barnacle outside of the UA shell. If Merope is the origin of UAs, then I suspect that the UA shell will define the limits of barnacle distribution in space.

Personally I think the whole UA/barnacle/DBE mystery has distinct human fingerprints all over it (Morse code is a dead give away). What we know is consistent with a long-isolated group of humans that have lost a lot of tech but developed some of their own, probably a generation ship colony (reasoning over here). The Pleiades is easily within credible reach of a generation ship, approximately 350 LY from Sol.
 
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So far all the evidence points to the whole thing revolving around the Pleiades:

  • UAs all call home to a star in the Pleiades (Merope).
  • Barnacles are only known to occur in the vicinity of the Pleiades (so far).
  • The barnacle logo does fit the Pleiades quite well (all the main components are there, in roughly the right positions).
  • The weird ‘fastmod’ diamondback explorers were sighted in the Pleiades (Maia).

Also important: Nobody has yet found a barnacle outside of the UA shell. If Merope is the origin of UAs, then I suspect that the UA shell will define the limits of barnacle distribution in space.

Personally I think the whole UA/barnacle/DBE mystery has distinct human fingerprints all over it (Morse code is a dead give away). What we know is consistent with a long-isolated group of humans that have lost a lot of tech but developed some of their own, probably a generation ship colony (reasoning over here). The Pleiades is easily within credible reach of a generation ship, approximately 350 LY from Sol.

Honestly I agree that there are human fingerprints all over this, but I think it's also alien. The idea that comes to me more and more is how the humans of a few games ago used biotech against the Thargoids to battle them and it caused the Thargoids serious problems. Perhaps they've begun manipulating human technology to do something similar, and soon it'll be our turn.
 
I agree this hs the fingerprints of inra all over it.

Perhaps alliance / thargoid involvement but no one will really know until dr palin turns up dead or alive and a few other mysteries are resolved
 
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