UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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Derthek

Derthek
CL pismis 17

would an expert in Barnacle hunting please give me some advice?

Here is a moon i've been exploring. From what I hear, most barnacles are found in "yellow, sandy patches"
Are these blue trenches to the right similar?
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I've also heard that metal content and heat may have a factor. What do you think of this?
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System stars are: O,M,M,K,A,T
Moon is orbiting: Class V Jovian w/ Rocky/Metal


How does this compare to moons or planets that barnacles have been sighted on? Any thoughts?

edit2: damn fine job with the topic post, Rizal. Answered most of my questions hehe... back to lurking
 
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Anjin

Anjin
NetSlayer said:
Barnacles noise has yet to be solved. Afaik there have been no identified repetitions... This to me suggests:

The message is super long than current recordings.
The message is super short and it's not repeated in the same order each time.
A decryption key/method is needed to find the looping message.
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Personally, I don't think the Barnacles have anything to say. But I'm quite willing to be proven wrong, nor am I suggesting people shouldn't investigate the sounds.

The UAs form a perimeter shell around the Merope area where the Barnacles are (so far), and so it makes sense to me that they'd be transmitting something, because that's probably what they're out there for: nav/border/perimeter beacons. I can only speculate that they started drawing us after someone 'back home' started wondering why their UAs started disappearing and ending up very far away.

But the Barnacles seem to have a different purpose: mineral extraction/meta-alloy production. They have no reason to transmit anything; they just sit there slowly doing their job, waiting to be harvested by their owners.

Of course, now that people are breaking the poor things, their owners might set up surveillance (or even defence!) capabilities as a response.

It might be worthwhile listening to them just to see if their sounds change. But it's entirely possible that their owners might be a bit more overt this time about people trespassing, breaking and taking their stuff.

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One has to wonder, story-wise, if we're as big as a mystery to the UA/Barnacle owners as they are to us. They're sitting there happily (unseen) in Merope, and these strange people/aliens rock up out of nowhere in their weird ships and start messing with their stuff. They're slow to react (or reveal themselves) out of a fear of accidently starting a war with us. But maybe factions amongst them are starting to run out of patience...
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
Derthek said:
would an expert in Barnacle hunting please give me some advice?

Here is a moon i've been exploring. From what I hear, most barnacles are found in "yellow, sandy patches"
Are these blue trenches to the right similar?
http://i.imgur.com/Tpk6h9i.png

I've also heard that metal content and heat may have a factor. What do you think of this?
http://i.imgur.com/F0FGoe1.png

System stars are: O,M,M,K,A,T
Moon is orbiting: Class V Jovian w/ Rocky/Metal


How does this compare to moons or planets that barnacles have been sighted on? Any thoughts?

edit2: damn fine job with the topic post, Rizal. Answered most of my questions hehe... back to lurking
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Lol Derthek can't spoiler
 

Tigirius

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Why Morse Code. Easy to explain: Morse Code is the most robust code to transmit Informations over a long distance with a lot of sources for interfereces etc. It is a binary base Code. So also easy maschine readable, and easy to process. Also has morse code a good compression rate to transmit complex personal readable information.
 

Lateralus

Lateralus
crushdepth said:
Personally I think the whole UA/barnacle/DBE mystery has distinct human fingerprints all over it (Morse code is a dead give away).
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Morse code doesn't necessarily mean its human... How would we solve a mystery with an Alien code system? Frontier have to make these puzzles solvable otherwise the whole thing would grind to a halt.

Michael Brookes already has to give us hints as it is, he probably doesn't want to have to do that :)
 

crushdepth

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Lateralus said:
Morse code doesn't necessarily mean its human... How would we solve a mystery with an Alien code system? Frontier have to make these puzzles solvable otherwise the whole thing would grind to a halt.

Michael Brookes already has to give us hints as it is, he probably doesn't want to have to do that :)
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There's some truth in that, but it would also be a bit immersion-breaking if aliens turn out to have adopted morse for their own internal communications. So I expect the devs will work it into the storyline somehow, so my money's still on human involvement.
 

danubezoe

danubezoe
Lateralus said:
Morse code doesn't necessarily mean its human... How would we solve a mystery with an Alien code system? Frontier have to make these puzzles solvable otherwise the whole thing would grind to a halt.

Michael Brookes already has to give us hints as it is, he probably doesn't want to have to do that :)
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Really Alien alien stuff could be so strange that we just perceive it as noise, a graphical glitch or a tear in space-time continuum. Strange things lurk in witchspace -

I wonder if there ever will be an engineer that can install an antique Witchspace drive in my Cobra III - for old times sake.
(edit: rambling - my attentionspan lasts half a sentence .. )

Cheers
DZ
 
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Derthek

Derthek
I found this guy in CL Pismis 19. The main star is a class B, similar in size and age to Merope. There is also a black hole in the system nearly the same size as the one in Maia. This moon orbits a red dwarf (which orbits the black hole) similar to Merope 5. The moon shares many similar traits to Merope 5c so I think if there is anything out here, this will be the place!

Is the area circled in red similar to the "yellow, sandy area" that so many Barnacles are found?
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Sorry about the dark image, the moon is overshadowed by it's binary moon.
This system and the moon itself resembles the barnacle locations so much that I'm hoping if there is a variable I have covered all the bases.
You may need to zoom in to see the colour of the ground better... watch out for anything spooky/scary...
 
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Highhead

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Derthek said:
I found this guy in CL Pismis 19. The main star is a class B, similar in size and age to Merope. There is also a black hole in the system nearly the same size as the one in Maia. This moon orbits a red dwarf (which orbits the black hole) similar to Merope 5. The moon shares many similar traits to Merope 5c so I think if there is anything out here, this will be the place!

Is the area circled in red similar to the "yellow, sandy area" that so many Barnacles are found?
http://i.imgur.com/EmrdsIT.png
Sorry about the dark image, the moon is overshadowed by it's binary moon.
This system and the moon itself resembles the barnacle locations so much that I'm hoping if there is a variable I have covered all the bases.
You may need to zoom in to see the colour of the ground better... watch out for anything spooky/scary...
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This looks very very very strange...

Edit: Seems like the picture changed, doesnt look that strange anymore now :)
 
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SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
To those thinking that the use of morse must not be alien.... well I agree there is a chance it isn't, but I don't think it's actually ruled out based on what we actually know:

To begin with, the morse we detected from them was the name of the closest astronomical body - ie. the same behaviour as Nav beacons. Ok, that is normally just the system, but that might just be because they tend to be located at the primary jump point. The UAs would could have learned the behaviour based on what we call things from the nav beacons. Remember that much of the galaxy is named procedurally in the manner it was generated, so there is a logical pattern for certain regions that would help an alien civilization work out at least part of the code. (Also, don't forget that nav beacons are being found downed on planets all over the galaxy... some of that is probably just poor rng design, but the fact that they are being found outside the bubble at all is strange).

I think the behaiour of the nav beacons is enough for an alien civilization to have figured out an at least an sequential order for morse characters to be able to plot the shapes that we get from them now.

If it is aliens, then it suggests to me some attempt at communication - Perhaps they have learned the code, but not the language.

If it isn't aliens, then the question is - why isn't the message more useful to other humans?

CMDR Argent Steel said:
Do you think the visibility at night time is a result of daylight from the nearby star drowning out the green light, or is it actually not giving off a green light during local daytime?
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I don't think we have any way of actually knowing, but I assumed that the daylight was drowning it out.
 
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Lurker

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Explorer long range support

Derthek said:
Here is a moon i've been exploring. From what I hear, most barnacles are found in "yellow, sandy patches" Are these blue trenches to the right similar?
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No, wrong underground
Derthek said:
I've also heard that metal content and heat may have a factor. What do you think of this?
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Far, far to hot. 1,749K ??? Please check your rubber tires more often! Also these 230Km is mostly very very small . Monkey's universalcartographics.org show 210Km as "record".

Better study the 5 "Barnacle" planets so far again yourself with all spec's in map or here in forum pictures/sheets as you are far out.
Happy hunting!
 
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Jorge

Jorge
SpocksOddSocks said:
I don't think we have any way of actually knowing, but I assumed that the daylight was drowning it out.
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You could cast a shadow on the barnacle by using your ship to block the light from the star and see if it still gives off light. I'd go test it myself but I'll be busy in Varati until civil war is over.
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
Jorge said:
You could cast a shadow on the barnacle by using your ship to block the light from the star and see if it still gives off light. I'd go test it myself but I'll be busy in Varati until civil war is over.
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You'd need to be at the correct angle to do this - so to get the shadow, and know the actual distance, the star would need to be directly over the barnacle. I'm don't think that's something we'd be able to guarantee. Or is my thinking flawed? Something about it doesn't feel possible anyway.
 
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