Gimballed guns - cheating?

Mace71

Mace71
Since I've bought the gimballed lasers in mp it has made it do easy to rack up kills against the AI and made me wonder if someone, another human player, was using them against me it would be very difficult to get out of their targeting envelope. Will these be more expensive in the full release so they aren't easy to obtain? Do you think they are a cheat in a way?

I like using them against the AI but don't fancy being on the receiving end :)
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Is driving a car with an automatic gearbox "cheating"? :)

There are tradeoffs with gimbals - you lose range and power, but gain convenience.

It will be interesting to see how it all pans out :)
 

Spiggs

Spiggs
Sorry fella, but there have already been at least 3 threads on this subject with over 300 replies. It would be better to use the search button at the top of the forum and read these threads first. Then if you feel there's something that hasn't been covered already, then start a new thread, otherwise we're just going over the same ground again.

Cheers :)
 
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Deus

Deus
This has been spoken about a lot in alpha.
the weapons list is far from complete thus far, and its fair to say gimballed and fixed will each haver their advantages/drawbacks come launch day.
 

KickahasTier

KickahasTier
The only reason any weapon mount would not be Gimballed is that it is too large with respect to the ships hull.

Are homing missiles a cheat?
 

jan

jan
Gimballed weapons ,+ essayer to hit target, - no Lock on stealth ed targets.
Fixed weapons + hits harder, - harder to aim whit.

its like the difference tracking missiles vs dumb fire missiles

The tracking weapons might be good at the start but the better you get the les you will use em since the none tracking weapons hit harder and can kill the target faster. The trade off is easy off use vs testing of combat skills. So adapt the weapons to your skill and play style there is no good weapons vs bad weapons.

Rock>paper>scissors conundrum what ships and pilots i likely to run into on my next run? :D
 

Aleksej

Aleksej
Gimbaled in no way are cheating. However they give too much advantage over fixed weapons. So most CMDR's are using gimbaled. Definitely some sort of balancing should be done. Also some new elements could be introduced later in the game, e.g. some sort of jammer that won't allow gimbaled weapons to lock onto target or that will make it harder for gimbaled weapons to follow the target.
 

Memnoch

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I don't know about jammers but certainly some weapons damage balancing would probably be in order. I don't think we need to worry about tracking speed either as that seems fine.
 

Lestat

Banned
Lestat
Memnoch said:
I don't know about jammers but certainly some weapons damage balancing would probably be in order. I don't think we need to worry about tracking speed either as that seems fine.
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Or just plain old practice on the user part. Because if they adjust it so fixed weapons are too strong and a mix with a good pilot could make things worse then it already is.
 

Memnoch

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Fixed weapons are already more powerful but I'm not sure if anyone has tested this to see if it is quantifiable i.e. 20 shot kill vs 15 shot kill. Fixed wins! ;)
 

Lestat

Banned
Lestat
Memnoch said:
Fixed weapons are already more powerful but I'm not sure if anyone has tested this to see if it is quantifiable i.e. 20 shot kill vs 15 shot kill. Fixed wins! ;)
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Well my setup is 3 fix weapons and gimbal weapon. I started out crappy but I am getting better.
 

TheProdigy

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KickahasTier said:
Are homing missiles a cheat?
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You can dodge missiles though. Laser gimbals are too strong. They need to have difficulty tracking very fast moving targets. And make it so that evasive maneuvers are actually effective at dodge some shots.

But yeah, im sure the devs are looking at the Gun data. And if they feel that theres a huge disbalance between gimbal and non-gimbal, they'll somehow lower the effectiveness of gimbaled weapons
 
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Aleksej

Aleksej
TheProdigy said:
You can dodge missiles though. Laser gimbals are too strong. They need to have difficulty tracking very fast moving targets. And make it so that evasive maneuvers are actually effective at dodge some shots.

But yeah, im sure the devs are looking at the Gun data. And if they feel that theres a huge disbalance between gimbal and non-gimbal, they'll somehow lower the effectiveness of gimbaled weapons
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Actually, it is very hard to dodge missiles. Most of them reach the target.
 
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