Modes The Open v Solo v Groups thread IV - Hotel California

Status
Thread Closed: Not open for further replies.
And was poor old innocent me hoping that this thread had died…

No such luck.

Even then, as mergers have stopped, the topic will keep coming back.
I've seen a few mini SOG threads or threads trying to hide being SOG topic since the anti merge started.
Which is a pain as at least the merging kept things tidy and we were all able to provide information in 1 easy to join thread (imo).
 
To address the Power Play angle, I would only make it available when your in open play. This should allow players the opportunity to disrupt opposing factions. To allow player to work away in solo kinda defeats the competitive nature of the PP Package.... However with the introduction of player minor factions you could say the same thing....

so back to incentives... Make the impact of players in Open mean more... Not in the form of credits but on the impact they have on the Galactic Similation. Another thought would be the introduction of Power missions which could include direct conflict and interaction with cmdrs... Which would only be available in open (this could be a way of increasing the impact of open play).

mission content,

assassinate 2 rank 1 cmdrs of.... With the locations highlighted on the GMap.
Intercept 'Cmdr' who we have been informed is intercepting our coms. (Depending on the intelligence gathered at Powers home system, new commodity for intelligence)


Just some thoughts for one PvP interaction. I would even start playing PP.
 
To address the Power Play angle, I would only make it available when your in open play. This should allow players the opportunity to disrupt opposing factions. To allow player to work away in solo kinda defeats the competitive nature of the PP Package.... However with the introduction of player minor factions you could say the same thing....

so back to incentives... Make the impact of players in Open mean more... Not in the form of credits but on the impact they have on the Galactic Similation. Another thought would be the introduction of Power missions which could include direct conflict and interaction with cmdrs... Which would only be available in open (this could be a way of increasing the impact of open play).

mission content,

assassinate 2 rank 1 cmdrs of.... With the locations highlighted on the GMap.
Intercept 'Cmdr' who we have been informed is intercepting our coms. (Depending on the intelligence gathered at Powers home system, new commodity for intelligence)


Just some thoughts for one PvP interaction. I would even start playing PP.


have you actually read the thread? Or are you rehashing the same old tiring PVP arguments that have been disproven for giggles?
 
Um... what?

How is playing in Open cheating exactly? And on top of that, why would you prefer playing with a cheater over someone in solo (Not that you can play against someone in solo... well, not directly anyway)?

probably i've dont explain good (my english is not good)

I says; why i have to hard work, with my community (i am an amidn and we are hundred), for increase our faction influence and defend our system from powerplay, when a pair of cmdrs in solo can make TONS of merit make with money? in my space! how i can defect they? I Cant! i only can stay to watch the % and wait to my community loose the system, we only play in open because this is a MMO. it is very ridicoulous the powerplay presence in solo\private! How to battle against it!?!!

I prefear the cheater one because him play in open and I can attacck him, than the solo player who destroy my system economy in private! ridicolous..
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
probably i've dont explain good (my english is not good)

I says; why i have to hard work, with my community (i am an amidn and we are hundred), for increase our faction influence and defend our system from powerplay, when a pair of cmdrs in solo can make TONS of merit make with money? in my space! how i can defect they? I Cant! i only can stay to watch the % and wait to my community loose the system, we only play in open because this is a MMO. it is very ridicoulous the powerplay presence in solo\private! How to battle against it!?!!

I prefear the cheater one because him play in open and I can attacck him, than the solo player who destroy my system economy in private! ridicolous..

The game is designed around the single shared galaxy state that each and every player experiences and affects - regardless of game mode or platform.

Powerplay, Minor Factions and Community Goals have all been implemented in accordance with this fundamental premise - and are, therefore, available for all players to play, in any mode.
 
The game is designed around the single shared galaxy state that each and every player experiences and affects - regardless of game mode or platform.

Powerplay, Minor Factions and Community Goals have all been implemented in accordance with this fundamental premise - and are, therefore, available for all players to play, in any mode.

So you say "if you wanna win this game, play private and grief other communities, good work!"
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
So you say "if you wanna win this game, play private and grief other communities, good work!"

Not exactly.

There is no overall "win" condition in this game.

All players can choose which game mode to play in on a session-by-session basis - by design - that is the way that Frontier designed the game, along with the single shared galaxy state and three game modes.
 
Not exactly.

There is no overall "win" condition in this game.

All players can choose which game mode to play in on a session-by-session basis - by design - that is the way that Frontier designed the game, along with the single shared galaxy state and three game modes.

i really understand this...i appreciate the work frontier make for us building this game.

But really, where's the reality and the immersion here? (i just talk about PP) why a few cmdrs in private can destroy without problem one system?

You know to opposing an expansion you have to kill ships in supercuirse for 30merit each one, we work 7 days to farm thoose ships, no one enemy cmdrs appear in open but they have more % than us, so I NEVER win this war, I can win in Powerplay only if i Play solo. camon!
 
probably i've dont explain good (my english is not good)
.

gotta be honest 1st off, I did not know what on earth uou meant, but to be fair your English is superior to any of my foreign languages. The point you make has merit.... in SOME games, games which are balanced around PvP and it is an understandable assumption to make that it would be the case in ED if you didn't do any background reading on the game.

However....... it is NOT the case in ED. Playing in open and getting involved in PvP is a purely optional pursuit in ED, it is not rewarded over and above shooting npcs other than for the enjoyment of playing against other like minded people.

Back in the dev diaries Frontier said things like blockades etc if they were to happen would be controlled by the devs and not players. ED is a PvE game with support for PvP IF you want it.. That is all, and imo players need to either accept that or risk insanity. To argue it is as pointless as shouting at the tide expecting it to turn. (imo)
 
Last edited:

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
i really understand this...i appreciate the work frontier make for us building this game.

But really, where's the reality and the immersion here? (i just talk about PP) why a few cmdrs in private can destroy without problem one system?

You know to opposing an expansion you have to kill ships in supercuirse for 30merit each one, we work 7 days to farm thoose ships, no one enemy cmdrs appear in open but they have more % than us, so I NEVER win this war, I can win in Powerplay only if i Play solo. camon!

I somehow doubt that a few commanders in Solo / Private Groups are outperforming a group of 100 or so players.

There are a few reasons why, even in Open not all opposing players will be able to be encountered: players not able to make a good quality P2P connection with other players will not be instanced with them by the matchmaking system; instances may already be at capacity (in terms of overall "quality" of the instance) so other players cannot be placed in it by the matchmaking system; players who play at a different time of day may not be encountered.

If another player group has more players working in opposition to your chosen goal then the only thing to do is attempt to fortify / undermine more.
 

But really, where's the reality and the immersion here? (i just talk about PP) why a few cmdrs in private can destroy without problem one system?

A few CMDRs can't destroy anything in ED if a larger group is working against them (if the large group has only a little understanding of how the game works).

If a group with hundreds of players can't absolutely dominate one system if only a few other CMDRs are opposing them, they are doing a lot of things terribly wrong. In that case the problem isn't the mode a few other CMDRs are playing.
 
Last edited:
You know to opposing an expansion you have to kill ships in supercuirse for 30merit each one, we work 7 days to farm thoose ships, no one enemy cmdrs appear in open but they have more % than us, so I NEVER win this war, I can win in Powerplay only if i Play solo. camon!

I would've thought your hundred players would easily be able to fortify the system to counter those undermining it.
Learn the mechanics of Powerplay carefully - you can counter any action in any mode of play.
 
gotta be honest 1st off, I did not know what on earth uou meant, but to be fair your English is superior to any of my foreign languages. The point you make has merit.... in SOME games, games which are balanced around PvP and it is an understandable assumption to make that it would be the case in ED if you didn't do any background reading on the game.

However....... it is NOT the case in ED. Playing in open and getting involved in PvP is a purely optional pursuit in ED, it is not rewarded over and above shooting npcs other than for the enjoyment of playing against other like minded people.

Back in the dev diaries Frontier said things like blockades etc if they were to happen would be controlled by the devs and not players. ED is a PvE game with support for PvP IF you want it.. That is all, and imo players need to either accept that or risk insanity. To argue it is as pointless as shouting at the tide expecting it to turn. (imo)



Thanks about my english :D

So you've right, elite is a Pve game and my faction is a Pve corporation, no problem about this! But, when 2 or more groups of players want the same system, why they have to fight with no balance ? there's no balance in PP system, especially because in Solo\private you can growth an expansion simply with a big haul ship, maybe flight withouth a shiled generator because the wort thing can happen to you is an Eagle interdiction..
We just want a way to directly opposite the player event, but just in PowerPlay! Powerplay is BIG! we have 100 cmdrs, the powerplay against us have thousand! we never never never win against us simply doing Pve..

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -

I would've thought your hundred players would easily be able to fortify the system to counter those undermining it.
Learn the mechanics of Powerplay carefully - you can counter any action in any mode of play.

we usuallly stay ever in open when doing PP because we think PP is better when i have to really fight other community, make this things in solo destroy all the mimmersion, so simply
 
From a few in solo to thousands against you. OK.

And you want to win against thousands of players working against you because - why?

I supposed they are a few in a particular system where we are working right now, because in 5 hours they make the amount of merit we have make in seven days, but they are thousand in the entire powerplay zone.

i dont want to win, i want the possibility to fight directly against him and not make a % race against npc, or may add some way to do it, kill 1 ships for 30 merit when they can carry 700 merit on a cutter for each run with the possibility to buy directly with credit make no sense in my opinion
 
Thanks about my english :D

So you've right, elite is a Pve game and my faction is a Pve corporation, no problem about this! But, when 2 or more groups of players want the same system, why they have to fight with no balance ? there's no balance in PP system, especially because in Solo\private you can growth an expansion simply with a big haul ship, maybe flight withouth a shiled generator because the wort thing can happen to you is an Eagle interdiction..
We just want a way to directly opposite the player event, but just in PowerPlay! Powerplay is BIG! we have 100 cmdrs, the powerplay against us have thousand! we never never never win against us simply doing Pve..

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -



we usuallly stay ever in open when doing PP because we think PP is better when i have to really fight other community, make this things in solo destroy all the mimmersion, so simply

For others PVP destroys immersion. And if you are in a private group, Open, or solo and in a T7 or a T9 with no shields.. you are just asking to be blown up. NPCs can and will destroy player ships
 
I supposed they are a few in a particular system where we are working right now, because in 5 hours they make the amount of merit we have make in seven days, but they are thousand in the entire powerplay zone.

i dont want to win, i want the possibility to fight directly against him and not make a % race against npc, or may add some way to do it, kill 1 ships for 30 merit when they can carry 700 merit on a cutter for each run with the possibility to buy directly with credit make no sense in my opinion

Why don't you contact the opposing power on reddit and see if they want a showdown?
See the Powerplay section on these forums for each power's reddit link.
Good luck & have fun! :)
 
For others PVP destroys immersion. And if you are in a private group, Open, or solo and in a T7 or a T9 with no shields.. you are just asking to be blown up. NPCs can and will destroy player ships

So i've no choice, i have to says at my community "guyz we have loose against ghost ships" enjoy the immersion

- - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -

Why don't you contact the opposing power on reddit and see if they want a showdown?
See the Powerplay section on these forums for each power's reddit link.
Good luck & have fun! :)

good idea, but if I do that maybe they can simply turn more attention on that system in future and the private\solo player are the really power
 
Status
Thread Closed: Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom