Brett C
Frontier
Obviously Elite Dangerous has died 10 times now!! [squeeeee][wacko]
Great New Article About Elite Dangerous
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Obviously Elite Dangerous has died 10 times now!! [squeeeee][wacko]
It's a decently written piece of journalism.
The self-aggrandising adolescent nonsense from many of the players involved isn't any more appealing now in retrospect than it was when it happened though.
There are a few players on these boards who will have run across me in another game. They at least will know that I'm not a 'carebear' by any stretch of the imagination; I don't feel the need to retreat to a hugbox for a few hours after a traumatic incident in a computer game, indeed I can't recall ever having a traumatic incident in a computer game. That doesn't change the fact that I've always considered players go after low hanging fruit to be the lamest of the lame, doubly so when they're also parroting on about their epic pvp skillz all the time.
If I saw more video of SDC doing anything other than shooting up noobs to provoke a response, killing traders, blowing up unarmed exploration ships, ganking in 3 and 4 vs 1 fights and otherwise picking low-hanging fruit, I would probably have a different opinion of them. As it is, my impression is that they're for the most part just like the bunch of goons that I finally got bored with in other games, the first to talk up how great they are but the first to run away when they're faced with something like an actual balanced fight.
It's funny but for all the talk of how much these guys love pvp, I can't recall seeing a single instance of them involved in just a straight-up pvp fight with something resembling matched opponents. My overwhelming impression is that their actions are driven far more by personal ego and a desperation to be seen as edgy than by any real love of the game's content.
Genuinely sorry if I'm doing them a disservice there but I can only call it as I see it. They just come across as a bunch of tools to me.
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This will be the sixth time SDC have killed Elite Dangerous and they have become exceedingly efficient at it.
Oh wait. No. No they haven't.
The self-aggrandising adolescent nonsense from many of the players involved isn't any more appealing now in retrospect than it was when it happened though.
There are a few players on these boards who will have run across me in another game. They at least will know that I'm not a 'carebear' by any stretch of the imagination; I don't feel the need to retreat to a hugbox for a few hours after a traumatic incident in a computer game, indeed I can't recall ever having a traumatic incident in a computer game. That doesn't change the fact that I've always considered players go after low hanging fruit to be the lamest of the lame, doubly so when they're also parroting on about their epic pvp skillz all the time.
If I saw more video of SDC doing anything other than shooting up noobs to provoke a response, killing traders, blowing up unarmed exploration ships, ganking in 3 and 4 vs 1 fights and otherwise picking low-hanging fruit, I would probably have a different opinion of them. As it is, my impression is that they're for the most part just like the bunch of goons that I finally got bored with in other games, the first to talk up how great they are but the first to run away when they're faced with something like an actual balanced fight.
It's funny but for all the talk of how much these guys love pvp, I can't recall seeing a single instance of them involved in just a straight-up pvp fight with something resembling matched opponents. My overwhelming impression is that their actions are driven far more by personal ego and a desperation to be seen as edgy than by any real love of the game's content.
Genuinely sorry if I'm doing them a disservice there but I can only call it as I see it. They just come across as a bunch of tools to me.
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This will be the sixth time SDC have killed Elite Dangerous and they have become exceedingly efficient at it.
Oh wait. No. No they haven't.
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Ahh sorry I'd got the wrong end of the stick lol, that makes much more sense thanks
LoL Funny article that some folks should hope vanishes from the internet...
Do 'students' know that large employers tend to look up peoples names these days before offering them a job... A certain little Wizard may have a hard time working at McDonald's after reading the article but then I don't think either side comes out smelling of Roses.
Do 'students' know that large employers tend to look up peoples names these days before offering them a job... A certain little Wizard may have a hard time working at McDonald's after reading the article but then I don't think either side comes out smelling of Roses.
"I read an article about you killing other players in a game that allows PVP. You're fired."
They have signed up for the PvP league now. A step in the right direction and a good sign that PvP in Elite is not as dead as they like it to be.
It's pretty entertaining to watch actually and of course someone has to dethrone Adle's Armada .. or die trying.
FD won't touch this with a stick because of the exposure and promotion it's giving to ED
It sounds silly but large companies do this to potential employee's. It's not about the game they played at all but about how they conducted themselves online and in social media.
Would you think it wise to employ an expert youtube troll in customer services compared to someone who is not?
They will of course be fine with the vast majority of employers but they can more or less forget working for global corp's.
I don't know.. maybe it's because I've been isolated on the Xbox side of things my whole ED career..
But I'm with SDC on this.
Mobius is doing more damage to the game segregating 20 THOUSAND people from playing Open than they are.
And if Mobius wants protection they should have higher standards for themselves. It's not Frontier's job to protect Mobius against people who are just playing the game.
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This article is soooo much inside baseball that I welcome the chance to explain it to my boss someday.
You're over thinking this.
But I'm with SDC on this.
Mobius is doing more damage to the game segregating 20 THOUSAND people from playing Open than they are.
And if Mobius wants protection they should have higher standards for themselves. It's not Frontier's job to protect Mobius against people who are just playing the game.
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This article is soooo much inside baseball that I welcome the chance to explain it to my boss someday.
You're over thinking this.
See Bret, here is why people get upset. Someone makes a comment slandering another group calling paying customers of yours "sorry asses" and you respond with a joke in agreement. While I received an infraction against my account for telling a combat logger he was "terrible".
Do you really wonder why there is descent in the pvp community? No it is not just SDC, PvPers at large feel they get put on the back burner.
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That´s just sad.
I usually avoid thread like this but really?
I play Möbius, other private and solo. Rarely open. If möbius and/or private went away I would play solo unless there were serious crime/punishment reviews done first.
Möbius hasn't kept me from open. It's kept me from quitting while frontier hopefully sort the balance of their game out to make it entertaining and fair for all types of player.
Eurogamer used quite a lot of words to say "Some Kids screaming around to get attention".
Erm... he hasn't kidnapped them - the members of that group have all CHOSEN and applied to be in there - surely that is their choice. How anyone plays is on;ly ever up to them, Not you, me or SDC??
Am I missing something with your argument?
Here's a quote from the article in case you didn't read it.
"SDC members tell Eurogamer they will quit the game if they are banned - and claim Elite Dangerous will die without them."
so yes they are "sorry asses" for using threats to try and get what they want.
Here's some defintions of the word for you so you can better understand the context.(learning is fun)
sorry ass
Term used to show poor quality of something/someone.
sorry ass
1) Lame, pitiful, without taste
It isn't a swear word, or a curse,It's a description.
LOL sorry banana
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They have signed up for the PvP league now. A step in the right direction and a good sign that PvP in Elite is not as dead as they like it to be.
It's pretty entertaining to watch actually and of course someone has to dethrone Adle's Armada .. or die trying.
I agree, that's much more the kind of thing I'd expect a pvp-focused group of players to be, well, focusing on.
I can understand anybody having issues with pretty much any aspect of this game, or any other game. We're all different, we all have different wants and needs, different things that motivate us etc. What I can't understand (or rather condone, I understand it just fine) is the need some people have to trash other people's fun just because they can, or more accurately because that is where they derive their own entertainment from. If that was the most entertainment I could find in a game, I'd be off playing something else where the actual content was entertaining me.
The core issue for me, which informs my opinion of these guys, isn't whether the game 'allows' a player to blast an unarmed exploration ship (for example) to kingdom come or not - in open it quite clearly does, so any further discussion of that point is utterly spurious - there's no debate there at all.
My issue with it is that the fact it's 'allowed' doesn't in any way change the fact that I think people who decide to do it are utterly tragic. Constantly mouthing off about being a pvp group just exacerbates that. It's like me telling people I'm a tough street fighter and then going out roundhousing a five year old kid standing outside a shop. Yeah see, I won a fight. On the street. Yay me.
I will say that the pvp league looked to be a great examplar of why pvp in this game holds little interest for me though, as from what I saw it's just a meta-fest with everybody running the obvious identikit ships. That's not a criticism of any of the individual players involved at all, it's a competitive environment so obviously players are going to use whatever the current leading build is determined to be, it's just a shame that there has to be one single build that is so clearly effective that everybody gravitates to it. Before this it was spamming SCBs and if the current meta changes it seems likely that it will simply be replaced by a new one.
Simply using 'the best' build doesn't appeal to me because I don't believe there should even be a single 'best' build for pvp - the entire concept just reflects a dearth of creativity in games. I'm increasingly starting to think that any hope of seeing set-ups that are different, yet balanced is futile; not only in this game but in many more. Shame really considering how much the technology has advanced since I started gaming over 30 years ago.
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