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This -^- totally this!
Something that occured to me.yesterday was that an open PvE mode might be the closest thing they can get to actually solving the combat logging issue, because how can one combat log against a player if PvE isn't allowed? Therefore all quits (in that mode) would be legal.
Of course that's just me playing devil's advocate.
Well I think they stated no interest in the station because they're not stupid and realized there's 0 chance of success for a group that's not PvE. No success in the context of winning the station and no success in respect to whatever their wider goals were. In that instance it's better to just not try. I mean I don't think SDC are stupid, I do get the impression they think these things through to some degree. (I could be wrong)
I suppose a third angle for the story could be that SDC actually "won" in that they succeeded in bringing their (claimed) issue right to the forefront?
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But they did accept it didn't they? Like right away they essentially said.. yeah take it were not bothered. Whether they were bothered or not is another matter but they did not fight it.
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Oh god I needed a good laugh!
Yeah "geniuses" like the kids who work out most dogs and homeless won't fight back if you gang up, kick them down and set fire to them - very clever indeed.
Considering the population of the game environment and the number of players, let alone new and vulnerable or declared PvE players, the fact that these 'geniuses' manage to target live streams and real players means they're being very, very selective indeed. Contributing to the environment/realism wouldn't involve a Magic Scanner that tells them if it's an NPC or a real life person who might lose hours/days/weeks of their play time - and thusly a 'worthwhile' target.
But you know, they're geniuses apparently - clever enough to put people off taking part in the game they say they love. Sounds like the sorta people FDev should get on board - who needs new players right?
Yup, they said they weren't interested in it, they made no serious attempt to try to defend it (a few half hearted attempts WERE made so they were a little disingenuous but hey, whatever) and they've not complained about their station being flipped since to my knowledge.
Whether it's genuine or just "sour grapes" is anyone's guess... anything they say about it's just going to be propaganda anyway. It's not really important as it wasn't done for their benefit, it was done for ours. Once we'd decided what we wanted to do SDC's player base really became irrelevant - they just gave us a name to shoot at and a reason to get together really.
There's probably a dozen ways it could have been spun. When I was in uni (anout a.million years ago) writing psych assignments one of the concepts some people found difficult was to answer the question that was asked, and not branch off into diversions and answer some other, unasked question. Another was to stay within the word limits and not ramble on excessivley. That's what I think the author of that article was doing; addressing the concept he was focussed on, without distractions, and within reasonable word limits.
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Exactly. It's not a matter of wether SDC wanted to keep their station or not - that was already given as a "We don't care what happens to it" so the BGS players took it from them for teh lulz.
It is a matter of PvP Pro-Bro groups realising that their in-game actions matter. That's the beauty of the BGS - every player contributes toward it no matter what mode they choose to play in. If PvP Pro-Bro's want to go on a rampage and slaughter everything in sight for fun, well that is entirely up to them. The repercussions will be felt when they return to a station filled with biowaste and UA's.
If a group of players want to make a name for themselves, it's best if they are nice about it
After all - no serious group of PvP Pro-Bro's will ever admit that they were defeated by a bunch of absolute nobodies who weren't even in a group, because they failed to understand the inner workings of the game.They couldn't complain about it because that would further undermine their position. They couldn't defend their position as that would involve gameplay they were not interested in. They couldn't PvP players in Solo or Private Group. They couldn't even be sneaky and hire a PvE group to prop their faction up for them. They simply provided free lulz
I gotta say, the only conclusion I can take from this is that people that play in private PvE lobbies are kinda sensible.
Like they said in the article, the people who complain the most don't even ever deal with it. I get attacked by players and pirates occasionally but it never bugs me.
I mean, SDC is playing according to the rules of the game, they're not doing any real damage and as a person who played in closed only because there was *nobody* in open when I was in N00B space, then went to open to find that few people played, and of those few many weren't even pirates. They were just people that wanted to have fun with other players, and that's ultimately what SDC is doing.
Going into the private lobby is a move, yeah, but I wouldn't classify it as harassment, not would I say it's reason to ban.
It's just, a move.
Like they said in the article, the people who complain the most don't even ever deal with it. I get attacked by players and pirates occasionally but it never bugs me.
I mean, SDC is playing according to the rules of the game, they're not doing any real damage and as a person who played in closed only because there was *nobody* in open when I was in N00B space, then went to open to find that few people played, and of those few many weren't even pirates. They were just people that wanted to have fun with other players, and that's ultimately what SDC is doing.
Going into the private lobby is a move, yeah, but I wouldn't classify it as harassment, not would I say it's reason to ban.
It's just, a move.
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Yes I pledged back to Powerplay based on what I heard from Sandro on the stream yesterday. I'm that pumped about it. Giving some incentive for people to PP in Open is only going to improve the experience. You can see that there's an appetite for picking up on these in-game drama stories out in the gaming media. And those kind of things bring positive press to the game. FD would be wise to continue to try to foster more player interaction within the game - don't stop with the PP Open incentives - do more with comms (something Sandro said they are looking at), player voting in the Powers (which has me quite excited actually) and more. Increasing player to player interaction should be the #1 priority.
They hide away from the possibility that a core game mechanic that can happen to them, IN THE PRIVATE LOBBY, will happen to them. That being pirates.
Furthermore, they only want to deal with the easy to deal with AI pirates. That's not hard in the slightest
Really, they're hiding from other players. It's neither hard to avoid the SDC nor is it difficult to escape a ship attacking you. That's why I say they're cowards.
They're hiding from a possibility that can be negated in open play by taking the right precautions and being good at the game.
And it's a noob telling you this.
Furthermore, they only want to deal with the easy to deal with AI pirates. That's not hard in the slightest
Really, they're hiding from other players. It's neither hard to avoid the SDC nor is it difficult to escape a ship attacking you. That's why I say they're cowards.
They're hiding from a possibility that can be negated in open play by taking the right precautions and being good at the game.
And it's a noob telling you this.
The song was Salil Sawarim, perhaps they should have gone with Byzantine music (secular not orthodox) and let people jump to the wrong conclusion
interesting to read that one of the Co-founders of the SDC is an Ozzy
I figured I had never run in to the SDC in open was due to my time zone heh
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Nobody cheated their ways into mobius most of us were already members (myself included for nearly 6 months) or simply applied and got accepted.. so before you make a statement get your facts straight. 99% of this community are so quick on making assumptions and don't even take the time to research information.
I don't know how many time I will have to repeat myself but I think it's the third thread : We do not care about wolfberg and what mobius/community does to it. I don't know how to make it more clear. Maybe you need a picture or a book explaining why we are too busy playing the division, eve online or dark souls 3 while you kill NPC's in solo but we simply don't give a dying rat about this system. We don't play the BGS/PP because solo/private players are directly impacting it so until this is fixed we will stick to blowing people up.
Hell, it's been 2+ months now since the mobius attack don't you think we would have done something about it if we cared so much?
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Awww DanaM - can't you see he needs love and attention and regular pats on the head?
He doesn't need to be ignored. That is the cowards way out
Embrace him in friendship and wonder at the insights he will deliver. Gasp at completed sentences. Let Him show us lowly beings the Only True Way To Play.
He doesn't need to be ignored. That is the cowards way out
Embrace him in friendship and wonder at the insights he will deliver. Gasp at completed sentences. Let Him show us lowly beings the Only True Way To Play.
Delude yourself that it doesn't happen, but I have been present when people were told that they wouldn't be hired because of things posted on Facebook that were considerably less controversial than the Eurogamer article's quotes.
Very nice. I'm glad you are having fun playing something.
Well that is a problem with group leadership. If group has system and doesn't know about it - leadership has failed.
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The more you do that - the worse it gets
PFSense rules blocking your members are now trading at $5 a pop
Rinzler o7o7o7
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Oh no.
We all understand the excuse completely, we're just in awe that you can't grasp that the consequences of your actions are the things you're complaining about.
The world beyond the end of one's nose
If you want more people in Open then how about when you see a noob you say hi and ask them if they're enjoying it - just a wild crazy suggestion. There are plenty of NPC pirates who do play by pirate rules and even NPC greifers but not sitting outside spaceports that noobs spawn from - play the game, don't abuse it then complain about the result of your abuse. That's like asking why your dog is cowering in the corner after giving it a kicking. It's not complicated
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Very nice. I'm glad you are having fun playing something.
Well that is a problem with group leadership. If group has system and doesn't know about it - leadership has failed.
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The more you do that - the worse it gets
PFSense rules blocking your members are now trading at $5 a pop
what does leadership has anything to do with that?
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Basically - if you are in a group - your leader tells you what to do. Single point of failure.
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