You think this is an Australian problem?
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You think this is an Australian problem?
Rinzler o7o7o7
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Ornee and I are the only Australians in SDC
You're saying if people don't play in open you think the game will die? (prematurely)
FWIW I seriously doubt the game will be dead in a year under any scenario.
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Hopefully not but it does kind of depend on how FD respond to the situation. If they can control themselves and allow Open to die gracefully then no problem; if they start making Open-only content or fling bonuses around in a desperate attempt to provide life support then non-Open players may get a bit upset.
So let me get this straight:
Open is considered the most risky place to play, yes?
Solo, private and open have same rewards for everyone, yeah?
Now, if FD wants to get more people focusing on Open, I would propose that Open players get a little bit extra credits from stuff they do.
Call it open bonus, risk bonus or something.
Like the base prices, base rewards, base everything is same no matter where you play. But when you do it in Open, you get, for example, +20% extra credits for every thing you do.
Let's say you sell a bunch of commodities and earn 100000 creds. Then you get a "risky bonus" that gives you extra 20k creds.
Or you do bounty hunting and return to the station to get the bounty. +20% "risky bonus" for every bounty you claim.
It's probably a bad idea to everyone here because I'm bad with ideas but eh, just my two cents. I still don't think anyone should be upset about that. It's risk vs reward, anyway. It doesn't change the base rewards etc. at all, everyone gets the same base but Open players get just something little extra for daring to play in the world of scary open.
And there has been talk about law enforcement in systems being more aggressive. I would love that.
I don't attack random players because that's not my role in the game, but I would love to see the space police come after me if I ever do something dumb!
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The article reflected badly on the entire ED community to be honest.
It made one side look like a bunch of wet blankets that can't handle losing in a game and the other side look like a bunch of kids screaming for attention and trolling others in order to get it. Sadly reading through this majority of this thread just reinforces that opinion.
This entire "conflict" is a symptom of poor game design, you should be shouting at FD to fix it rather than squabbling amongst one another. Sadly it seems that some of you are so entrenched in your positions that you either refuse to acknowledge it or cannot even see it in the first place, for every well reasoned post in this thread there are multiple that are simply mind numbing.
Personally I am taking time out of the game at the moment awaiting further development and complexity in the game mechanics. To be honest though even if the game gets developed to the point that it closely resembles the original kickstarter pitch and DDF documents, I'm not sure I would want to come back and be a part of this community... It's pathetic.
It made one side look like a bunch of wet blankets that can't handle losing in a game and the other side look like a bunch of kids screaming for attention and trolling others in order to get it. Sadly reading through this majority of this thread just reinforces that opinion.
This entire "conflict" is a symptom of poor game design, you should be shouting at FD to fix it rather than squabbling amongst one another. Sadly it seems that some of you are so entrenched in your positions that you either refuse to acknowledge it or cannot even see it in the first place, for every well reasoned post in this thread there are multiple that are simply mind numbing.
Personally I am taking time out of the game at the moment awaiting further development and complexity in the game mechanics. To be honest though even if the game gets developed to the point that it closely resembles the original kickstarter pitch and DDF documents, I'm not sure I would want to come back and be a part of this community... It's pathetic.
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Rinzler o7o7o7
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That's exactly why I'm out on a long-range exploration trip at the moment. Bad politics, too much crying, bad PvP meta
You can not generally asses risk over the modes.
I PvP focused private group with the sole purpose of bashing each other's ships in might be a more expensive mode than open will ever be.
A T-7 power aligned trader in solo might have a greater risk in solo than a HRP stuffed FDL in open.
A bad player like me always has a greater risk at losing his ship (I did ram my Python into a planet and did park my ASP in a mailslot once in bandcamp) .. do I deserve a special insurance discount to compensate? (The answer is yes!!!)
If I'd ram my car into a bridge (because I don't care and am from the 70ies ;p ), my insurance goes up?
So yea.. forget that general bonus for anything to compensate something.
You play the mode you like, you live with it's advantages and disadvantages. Simple.
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You make good points. I'm still rather new in the game so I wasn't sure, but after reading this topic I've gotten this "open is the most riskiest place" vibe which gave me that idea.
To be honest I'm starting to think that these forums are the riskiest place in ED universe, lol
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Thankfully many ED players don't frequent the forums, but to be honest that's my feeling too.
That the folk here arguing on both sides are part of the issue.
Yes PvP happens in open but it's not nearly the problem some folk like to constantly paint it as, if you read the forums you get a totally disproportionately bad idea of what open is, and it's that that's doing the *real* damage. It's a real shame we can't have a decent, honest and level-headed discussion about all this.
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So correct!
Another less funny thing is you can have a discussion with something useful coming out of it,
only to see the flaming start again, due to unrelated posts or just bashing at another one.
The real PvP that is happening, is happening in this very forum!
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So.. a few pages actually discussing the article, which was well written and actually spoke to specific issues and then we go down the rabbit hole of Open/Group/Solo/PvP/PvE for another couple of dozen or so?
Just PLAY THE GAME people. Adapt your strategy to how the game actually works and make it happen, don't whinge trying to make FD change it to suit how you want it to work in a futile attempt to make the game into something its not. Play it the way it is or don't. End of freakin' story.
Just PLAY THE GAME people. Adapt your strategy to how the game actually works and make it happen, don't whinge trying to make FD change it to suit how you want it to work in a futile attempt to make the game into something its not. Play it the way it is or don't. End of freakin' story.
Whooah Commander, hold fire. This community is more than the sum of two sides of this argument.
Wait- you think that's funny? You think death threats are a joking matter? Princess, I really, really want you to think through what you just posted. Forget the salt, the forum or any other b0ll0cks running through your head right now. Death threats are not a joking matter. Most are hot air, some are even jokes made in very poor taste, but just enough of them turn out to be genuine for making them to be a crime all over the Western World. If you receive one, report it.
I really like exploration but the SECOND i leave is when pvp happens ):<
i used to get quite upset by them but over time i learned that they were just quite empty so i kinda got used to them, playing the bad guy comes with bad consequences, i can deal with it but i appreciate your concern
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Absolutely right. Indeed I do blame FD, they need to wake up and sort their game out.
Blaming the "bad guys" is completely pointless, they will always behave thus if they can get away with it.
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Easier said than done.
result of what actions?
can you please remind me when the last time i ganked a noob, trader, or invaded a private group?
i can tell you the trader and noob was when i just joined SDC, about 5 months ago. Kaushpoos CG. We werent allowed to kill noobs or traders that complied in Code, when i left and joined SDC, i got it all out of my system and now there is no challenge hah.
And for private groups, SPECIFICALLY mobius, he contacted me as we were friends and instructed that he would remove me from his private group and i said no problem! if he doesnt feel safe with me in his group then perfectly fine, his group, his rules. (plus they needed room, i only used his group for Robigo and Draconis 17 hopping).
The only thing i deserved was dying a couple times, the amount of noobs i've killed doesnt even equate to one of my rebuys.
I fly with SDC to fly with some really great people and pilots, not to gank noobs or traders, other than that, i just dont really log on d:
i do feel like the PG invasion was a little questionable by my standards(but then again i have different standards than the rest of SDC), even though it does highlight some PG issues about a search function
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