Apology from Sticktwiddlers for comments...

PacalB

PacalB
Jack Booted Thug said:
Asp,

check this out for a cultural clash...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEtjaZ8ZuNU
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Jack, not the best of examples to use mate. Forum rules state:

The following forum rules are in place to promote the Frontier forums as a safe, friendly and welcoming place for the community. Discussion and debate are welcomed but not at the expense of common sense and decency, as exemplified by the rules below.

You must not:

Promote discrimination based on race, sex, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation, age or other criteria that offends other users.
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Even if it's attempting to show an example. :(
 
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Jack Booted Thug

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PacalB said:
Is that meant to be some kind of slur against us British sir? I really hope not ... :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :smilie:
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I was simply voicing an observation I have made and raising a question about it.

Over the years I have read the content on many different forums and one thing I have noticed here that I have not noticed on other forums I have acquainted myself with is how easily many people seem to be offended.

I have seen posts about people stating they are not going to be playing the game for the time being because someone blew their ship up in game. I have seen posts where people allude practically all PvP activity to griefing. I have seen people complaining about some function in the game not working and that to them such a thing is simply not acceptable. I have seen posts where people are complaining about not having specific time frames for various releases.

Many of these examples, among others, appear to be written by people who are upset quite easily over things that I personally consider quite trivial in the real scheme of things.

I see the same kind of thing in this thread and in the banter at the link in the OP. Even a comment which raises the issue of contacting the police because someone in a podcast stated that ED backers should be taken out and shot in the head. I mean really?

I have never seen a forum with such behaviour in my life and I have also never been active on a forum which was predominantly populated by people from the UK. Thus I wonder if there is a connection?

Is it a slur to think and voice such things? I don't think so, but then again maybe others do.

I know that here in Tennessee, where I live, that people are far more easily offended by many things than where I lived in Queensland, N.S.W. and the A.C.T. in Australia. But these forums seem to bring things another level entirely.

Also note I am not alluding in any way to these forums not tolerating profanity or nasty insults. I support that. So please don't ignore the context of my observation.

Thanks.
 

PacalB

PacalB
Asp Explorer said:
Pacal - why would you say that? It was an entertaining piece that demonstrated changing tastes vs inherent statics in a fairly controlled manner.
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You really don't think it's offensive to push video clips of people blacked up for laughs? Yeah, I'm sure there are some people that still think this kind of thing is funny but fortunately nowadays many don't. I think it's a bit of an inappropriate way to try and get your point across, taking it you both don't know who's looking at these forums. :(
 

Jack Booted Thug

J
PacalB said:
Jack, not the best of examples to use mate. Forum rules state:



Even if it's attempting to show an example. :(
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Well I guess this is getting off topic now but honestly it can be hard to not make distinctions in any way whatsoever regarding all those things.

I have observed that the people in Tennessee are generally friendly but publicly conserved whilst in Australia people are more publicly outspoken about their views on various things.

Am I violating a discrimination rule by saying that? No I don't think so nor do I think I am violating a discrimination rule in anything I have written.

The term discrimination implies an "unjust" prejudicial distinction between a people or group. The video I linked had an act that was not viewed as "unjust" by the people involved (some of who were of Indian descent I believe) but was viewed as "unjust" by a foreigner from a different culture. It was an example of the way one culture can view things differently to another culture.

There are terms of endearment in Australia which would be considered an outright offense where I currently live.

I am just curious as to whether people in the UK are generally more easily offended over things that I consider to be quite trivial.

I honestly consider the comments in some podcast where the hosts are giving off the cuff remarks about a subject, and in so doing use a common colloquialism, a bit trivial to take offense at. I also think that making a big issue of such things is blowing it all out of proportion.

Just one man's view. :)
 
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Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
PacalB said:
You really don't think it's offensive to push video clips of people blacked up for laughs? Yeah, I'm sure there are some people that still think this kind of thing is funny but fortunately nowadays many don't. I think it's a bit of an inappropriate way to try and get your point across, taking it you both don't know who's looking at these forums. :(
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I again disagree Pacal - wearing makeup in an act does not intrinsically make it more offensive to one group of people or another.

It's an act.

If people take offense to that then that is their prerogative - but you may as well take offense to people drinking cheap coffee, or walking shaved dogs, or riding scooters, or dying their hair, or being Belgian.
 

PacalB

PacalB
Asp Explorer said:
I again disagree Pacal - wearing makeup in an act does not intrinsically make it more offensive to one group of people or another.

It's an act.

If people take offense to that then that is their prerogative - but you may as well take offense to people drinking cheap coffee, or walking shaved dogs, or riding scooters, or dying their hair, or being Belgian.
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It's an act you say?

Sorry but having respect for different racial groups is just common decency. The black and white minstrel show for example ended some 35 years ago, as a petition was launched by the Campaign For Racial Discrimination, calling for the BBC to remove the show. It was removed, removed for being racist Asp.

It a shame you can't see their "act", their "show" from the vantage point of those they are taking the **** out of. There is no difference from their act, their show to that which was done 35 years ago or more. It's offensive.
 

Phaedra

Phaedra
Jack Booted Thug said:
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There are terms of endearment in Australia which would be considered an outright offense where I currently live.

I am just curious as to whether people in the UK are generally more easily offended over things that I consider to be quite trivial.
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Being as polite as possible, I would say that that the Australians I've known have generally been a bit more forthright than Brits, who tend to prefer understatement. No doubt, it is possible that for this reason that a bold statement might cause offence in the UK, but be acceptable in Australia. Nevertheless, most Brits expect Aussies to be outspoken and would make some allowance, especially if it was just banter.

On the more general point of Brits and cultural misunderstanding, I've generally found this a useful illustration. http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2012/01/what-the-british-say-and-what-they-really-mean/
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
PacalB said:
It's an act you say?

<stuff> It was removed, removed for being racist Asp.

<stuff> It's offensive.
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Racist and offensive to whom?

Obviously not their target audience - or it wouldn't be on prime-time TV.

I do understand and have sympathy for what you are trying to say - but, I'm not completely convinced.

When in Rome.....
 

JeffRyan

JeffRyan
My rule is pretty simple and applies to pretty much everything.

Was it their intention to be offensive? No. I'll let it slide, even if it COULD be interpreted as offensive. Yes. I shall reak havoc upon you and your descendents unto the 7th generation.
 

Valkyrie

Valkyrie
Asp Explorer said:
Racist and offensive to whom?

Obviously not their target audience - or it wouldn't be on prime-time TV.
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Actually the show was pulled shortly after and a lot of people here in Aus found the act and the show and its inherent ignorance offensive. We have a dark history with the Koori and there's still a lot of Koori living destitute in this country as a result of the invasion and being treated less than human up until the middle of last century, so this stuff does not fly well and is very disrespectful where homage is due.
 

Aewarin Jameson

Aewarin Jameson
Jack Booted Thug said:
I have noticed quite a few times, on these forums, how some members are so easily offended over trivial things.

Is this due to the high percentage of people from the UK on this board? I don't know for sure but I really hope not...

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Yes - people on these forums ARE easily offended.

A generic trait is that Brits like to complain.

Sadly I keep forgetting this and clock up infractions quicker than I lose them ;)
 

Xorr

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Jack Booted Thug said:
I have noticed quite a few times, on these forums, how some members are so easily offended over trivial things.

Is this due to the high percentage of people from the UK on this board? I don't know for sure but I really hope not...

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Are you new to the internet? :rolleyes:
 

gazzareth

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Kudos to Sticktwiddlers for apologising, although in all honesty I don't think that they needed to - just a bit of "Top Gear" style humour, we just happen to be at the sharp end.

They kind of have a point as well, we are bonkers to be shelling out £100 for PB access, or in fact buying any game and/or season pass before or shortly after launch. When you can wait a short time and pick it up for peanuts on sale or in a "gold" package.

Funny, but despite everything I have played since Elite on the Acorn Electron, the game I have fondest memories of has always been Elite.

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