Great New Article About Elite Dangerous
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On a different note, I did watch a streamer some time ago -I presume in open-, who was trying to do some "policework" RPing interdictions in order to perform cargo scans for illegal goods.
It was kinda sad to watch, since most of his fellow players did not even play along or respond to his "roleplay" (and he did type quite fast and gramatically correct), they just highwaked out straight after the interdiction. There was one in a cobra who responded something like "you'll never gonna get me" and then high-tailed, but that was actually the highlight of an hour of player interaction.
So yea, the game does have communication issues.
Either those players high-waking without even a line of text are not aware that it's a multiplayer game. One might think it impossible, but there's a fraction of the actual sold copies on the forums or 3rd party site, so we can safely assume that many more players are exclusively depending on in-game information, which is sadly lacking description of the modes or of any "desired behaviour" aside from telling you what not to do.
Communication means are weak. It's very hard to distinguish between the NPC background chatter and another commander contacting you, and you have to read the panel, while fiddling around with your ship systems. That might be overload. Not good.
And lastly, if one really does not care about any player interaction, why play in open at all? If some other player is genuinly trying to do some "RP event", not playing along is not a very nice thing to do. Just stay in solo and spare that other player the waste of time.
On a different note, I did watch a streamer some time ago -I presume in open-, who was trying to do some "policework" RPing interdictions in order to perform cargo scans for illegal goods.
It was kinda sad to watch, since most of his fellow players did not even play along or respond to his "roleplay" (and he did type quite fast and gramatically correct), they just highwaked out straight after the interdiction. There was one in a cobra who responded something like "you'll never gonna get me" and then high-tailed, but that was actually the highlight of an hour of player interaction.
So yea, the game does have communication issues.
Either those players high-waking without even a line of text are not aware that it's a multiplayer game. One might think it impossible, but there's a fraction of the actual sold copies on the forums or 3rd party site, so we can safely assume that many more players are exclusively depending on in-game information, which is sadly lacking description of the modes or of any "desired behaviour" aside from telling you what not to do.
Communication means are weak. It's very hard to distinguish between the NPC background chatter and another commander contacting you, and you have to read the panel, while fiddling around with your ship systems. That might be overload. Not good.
And lastly, if one really does not care about any player interaction, why play in open at all? If some other player is genuinly trying to do some "RP event", not playing along is not a very nice thing to do. Just stay in solo and spare that other player the waste of time.
Sole Hunter
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i'll move on when I want.
lol can't edit after 30 sec anymore was tired, typo mistake.
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Boomer thats not really a communication issue its an internal win/lose debate
If you stop to communicate with somebody who interdicted you and find out that they have friends or are vastly more capable for example you have probably missed your chance to escape.
If you assume everyone that interdicts is going to cut you down then you can escape in almost every situation.
Its no contest, every experienced player will take #2
I think the simple truth is the mechanics of this game are not setup for multiplayer at all, the longer its been out the more obvious that seems to me. Every time the mechanics are tested in a multiplayer environment they fall flat, whereas many things work as intended when your playing by yourself, what that means for the future of the game / potential fixes I don't know but I can't help but think they will need a seriously major overhaul if they intend to do anything about it.
If you stop to communicate with somebody who interdicted you and find out that they have friends or are vastly more capable for example you have probably missed your chance to escape.
If you assume everyone that interdicts is going to cut you down then you can escape in almost every situation.
Its no contest, every experienced player will take #2
I think the simple truth is the mechanics of this game are not setup for multiplayer at all, the longer its been out the more obvious that seems to me. Every time the mechanics are tested in a multiplayer environment they fall flat, whereas many things work as intended when your playing by yourself, what that means for the future of the game / potential fixes I don't know but I can't help but think they will need a seriously major overhaul if they intend to do anything about it.
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There is not really something to be lost in the game, apart from some actually meaningful player interaction. I do not know how many more pythons I have to ram into planets to make that point.
And interdictions could be auto-distinguished and offer more modes (see the thread on piracy).
"Friendly interdictions" - no itention to kill you - might need additional "artificial" safeguards (and FSD cooldown is not a "natural" game mechanic because your actual FSD is actually recharging
) like disabling weapon deployment for both sides for 10 seconds or somesuch. Could lead to piracy, police actions .. something, but the interdicted player has a "safe zone" for his decisionmaking and is not forced into a die or run, where "run" is always the safe option."Unfriendly interdictions" - if you submit, your FSD cooldown is actually *increased* - so you fight it and if you lose, the attacker has more time to take you out and if you submit, you better fight, since your FSD will be back in 30 or 40 seconds.
Something in those lines.
The current mechanics are very rudimentary and far from self-explaining.
(and I'm still a solo player, but I do have "empathy" and I felt bad for the guy trying to stage a "RP event" .. he did not randomly shoot ships during that stream ^^ )
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Avago Earo
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Long article. Long thread. All I can make out is Frontier intend to do nothing about it so I guess it's just a matter of 'get on with it'.
Sole Hunter
Banned
They can't do anything about it anyway because we didn't break any rules.
#1 SDC members apply to mobius get accepted.
#2 SDC members get kicked from mobius for killing cmdrs.
#3 SDC members re-apply to mobius, get accepted...
#4 Mobius people cry on the forums.
#5 SDC publish a video and people get salty.
#6 SDC stream snipe some noobs in open.
#7 Community manager change some meaningless rules.
#8 SDC do a charity stream, people cry on the forums anyway.
#9 Eurogamers contact SDC and conduct an interview and has a good laugh about frontier inactions and poorly designed rules.
#10 Community still crying and discussing us 3 months after the mobius event giving us tears and attention. Maybe kotaku will do an interview next? @luke plunkett
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Sole Hunter
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hahahahahaha
You missed a few bits... let me correct that for you...
Much better.
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Must virtually rep you since the system wants me to spread it around,,,,
and still SDC brings nothing positive to the game...
Bang on - have some rep.
Avago Earo
Banned
Don't remember mentioning you.
Dude don't even suggest this!!
Still trying to figure out how you came to your conclusions [weird][weird][weird]
Is your mind playing tricks on you?
Or are you just really really bad at trolling?
Haha, true!
Thats basically all there is to it, isn't it? Out of curiosity, how does it feel to get the attention of some annoyed strangers? To an outsider like me it seems kinda... sad, you know? I can give you some rep, would that make you happy? Or does it have to be 'annoyed attention'? If you want I can call you nasty names and pretend to be really upset, will that brighten your day? Just wondering what the point of it all is, what you get out of it. Because it doesnt seem to be the game itself you like, but as you say yourself the attention you get. And I kinda feel sorry for people who crave the attention of us random forum folks.
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they're going to save us all from this terrible game that nobody likes by publicly ruining it for all newcomers until FDev changes it to how they want it - how can that not be positive? maybe we should pay them
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