The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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KG_Jedi

KG_Jedi
Guys, is there anyone on the other side of Rift? I'm currently redislocating to that place, looking for CMDRs to add into friend list and coordinate efforts.
 

Gypsy12

Gypsy12
KG_Jedi said:
Guys, is there anyone on the other side of Rift? I'm currently redislocating to that place, looking for CMDRs to add into friend list and coordinate efforts.
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I think cmdr Pharoh is still stuck over there... he usually comes on in the evening
 

piy

piy
KG_Jedi said:
Wait. If in Drew's book it's said that there are "dark systems, not mapped", it means they aren't shown on galaxy map.

So... Should we fly along R-R line, while looking at SKYBOX and checking for anything, that can be seen on skybox, but not on galaxy map?

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Also, i finished surveying yesterday Leut's brown dwarf cluster. Mainly by scanning main star, checking system map and going to next system.

Nothing unusual found, some systems had landable/unladnable planets, some had gas giants, but nothing unusual.
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Ahhh well. It was worth checking out. It certainly looks out of place. :)
Had to log out suddenly yesterday. Hoping to get online tonight. To continue my ramble. :D
 

crushdepth

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KG_Jedi said:
Guys, is there anyone on the other side of Rift? I'm currently redislocating to that place, looking for CMDRs to add into friend list and coordinate efforts.
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You can add me, I just arrived in the new arm today. But my search strategy is to wander around randomly until someone turns up some new info or some way of narrowing things down.
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
crushdepth said:
You can add me, I just arrived in the new arm today. But my search strategy is to wander around randomly until someone turns up some new info or some way of narrowing things down.
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Same here. New outer arm, wandering aimlessly :D. I was slightly excited at one point over an untagged neutron star system out here that I found randomly, but turned up nothing of interest. For everyone's information, it was:
Dryae Eaescs OT-O d7-23
Had a few HMCs.
 
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KG_Jedi

KG_Jedi
crushdepth said:
You can add me, I just arrived in the new arm today. But my search strategy is to wander around randomly until someone turns up some new info or some way of narrowing things down.
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Gypsy12 said:
I think cmdr Pharoh is still stuck over there... he usually comes on in the evening
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Thanks, wll add.

Also, found few more POI's (thanks for Star portal on wiki):

- RS PERSEI and FZ PERSEI, both just slightly lower than H&S nebulaes. Both are supergiant stars, close to each other (literally few jumps), both located in clsuter of blue stars. Might be worth checking to anyone who close to that place.
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
Dommarraa said:
How can you say that there was nothing unusual when you didn't scan anything? What are you looking for?
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Just a thought Dommarraa, but an equally valid question might be: what are you looking for if scanning everything that doesn't appear out of the ordinary?

The more I think about it, the more I believe that full scans of every rock and ice-ball is probably wasting time that could spent elsewhere (checking as many systems as possible seems a more likely productive approach to me).

I strongly suspect there will be something will tell is there is something out of the ordinary, whether it be visual cues, signal sources, interdictions by unknown enemies, but still... something. I could be well out, but if it is something that requires a full scan, I'm not sure it would even be worth finding (based on the mechanics of the game as we know them).
 
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Arjin

Arjin
Something has been bugging me, the old lady states "but I got as far as the Formidine Rift," not across, "No one has gone past it and lived to tell the tale." so if she only got to the Rift then how does she know that we need to cross it and get to the edge of the galactic arm. "Edge of the Galactic Arm. Take a line from Reorte to Riedquat to the edge of the arm and ... keep going". Unless she is referring only to the Perseus arm as being the edge, and whatever IT is lies within the Rift? The serious stuff she saw out there can only be at the edge of the Rift, Perseus side if we take her account logically.

Am I missing something here?


EDIT: Unless #2, the Rift is the interstellar void after our galaxy ends, the true void. So the Rift maybe after the edge of the new Outer Arm and beyond...
 
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Pazmino

Pazmino
Muetdhiver said:
Where does Poseidon leads us ? Well, when one also consider that neptune has a moon called nereid,
the connection to cassiopiea is obvious isn't it ?

Poseidon was offended because Cassiopeia dared say that her daughter Andromeda was the most beautifull, and not poseidon's nereids.
That led of course to Andromeda being saved just in time by Perseus arm from the dread cetus monster sent by Poseidon.

When one considers that the RR line point to the Cassiopeia constellation and Kahina being a berber queen = white aethiopian queen,
I think it's quite clear that Cassiopeia is the best candidate to fit the bill so far.
Problem is : Cassiopeia as a constellation is bloody huge. So the other clues might help us narrow down the search. This is where cambridge, doing
some astronomy and the seven veils proved usefull.

Finally I think there is a few things we might need to think about :
  • "Edge of the Galactic Arm. Take a line from Reorte to Riedquat to the edge of the arm and ... keep going." => keep going where, along RR line or along the (perseus) arm's edge ?
  • formidine rift => this makes me think of the great rift, which is caused by the dark coalsack nebula obscuring the milky way. My guess : we are looking for a dark cloud.
  • "the dark systems haven't been mapped, so take your time, watch your six" => we are looking for dark systems, that are not mapped (as in not in the map). Watch your six : look back/behind.
  • we need patience and wanderlust : i.e. need to get out there and be patient to find it. IMO that means that this puzzle cannot be solved just via the gal map, you got look at the sky.
  • If the rift is a named object (star or nebula) present on the galmap, explorers would have found it without seraching for it as named stars and nebulas are explorers honeypots.
  • Part of the clues should help narrow down the search, but not pinpoint (wanderlust required).

So, what I think we are looking for is a dark cloud region like the coal sack, but one that is not shown on the gal map, along the edge of the perseus arm or RR line.
The systems inside it might be on the map, but that does not help us. To find such region, you would have to look back to the core, as the only way to see it is against the background of the milky way.
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Totally agree hat we should look for a dark region, as I posted earlier on, like 2 days ago :D Glad My tin foil hat is as good as yours :D
 

Cyalope

Cyalope
SpocksOddSocks said:
Just a thought Dommarraa, but an equally valid question might be: what are you looking for if scanning everything that doesn't appear out of the ordinary?

The more I think about it, the more I believe that full scans of every rock and ice-ball is probably wasting time that could spent elsewhere (checking as many systems as possible seems a more likely productive approach to me).

I strongly suspect there will be something will tell is there is something out of the ordinary, whether it be visual cues, signal sources, interdictions by unknown enemies, but still... something. I could be well out, but if it is something that requires a full scan, I'm not sure it would even be worth finding (based on the mechanics of the game as we know them).
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I tend to agree with that, but I do not think a full system scan is more a waste of time than anything else. The time it takes to scan lets see if a signal source or another event occurs.
From a personal point of view and after having cogitated a lot about the different "clues" (mythology, seven veils, kahina etc ...) I think the best is to spend time in a system to possibly see if anything happens, and see if there would be light on the dark side of worlds with life (ammonia too). It is clear that when we study the mythological and other "clues", we can easily make connections (too much at my opinion). If we take the example of the seven veils, we can very well imagine seven nebulae / doors / whatever, that would serve as landmark to follow. The problem is there is too much possibility for each theory, plus the fact that we have no idea what we are looking for.

I believe that without more precise clue, we all lose a little our time, one way or another. In all cases, I do not want to discourage anyone from doing what he did, each adds an own contribution, and that's how we progress.
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
SpocksOddSocks said:
Just a thought Dommarraa, but an equally valid question might be: what are you looking for if scanning everything that doesn't appear out of the ordinary?

The more I think about it, the more I believe that full scans of every rock and ice-ball is probably wasting time that could spent elsewhere (checking as many systems as possible seems a more likely productive approach to me).

I strongly suspect there will be something will tell is there is something out of the ordinary, whether it be visual cues, signal sources, interdictions by unknown enemies, but still... something. I could be well out, but if it is something that requires a full scan, I'm not sure it would even be worth finding (based on the mechanics of the game as we know them).
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Valid question.
Imho the most likely find will be a named planet. Could easily be an otherwise dull moon.
Abandoned station. Possible if unlikely
PPOI (like voyager). You won't see it unless you are close.

Honk and scoop will only find the station.

The most valuable work done by a full scan of a full sun sector is that it can be ticked off, and NEVER SEARCHED AGAIN.
Honk scooping or cherry picking as you wander about achieves absolutely nothing unless you hit the jackpot. Do you want to spend your time scanning places that others have already been?
 

SpocksOddSocks

SpocksOddSocks
Dommarraa said:
The most valuable work done by a full scan of a full sun sector is that it can be ticked off, and NEVER SEARCHED AGAIN.
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The problem as I see it is that this isn't necessarily the case. In the case of a named planet, yes it would tick it off. A POI in the style of voyager, it might not. If it is something else on a dull planet, it is quite likely that a scan would not reveal it (ie. only by getting a close visual would it be possible to see something of the sort). We know that whatever is there has been there since launch, so it can't be a planetary base that would show up after a scan now (since horizons).
 
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CMDR Corlas

CMDR Corlas
I'm expecting some more like a new sort of strong signal source. Back before the UA was ever connected to Merope, I had been out to the Pleiades a few times, and you could tell something mysterious was going on there, just from a sheer number of signal sources that kept popping up. I never found a UA then, but the SS's still told me something was up.

So I'm expect that, when we find something, we'll first see an uptick (or any) signal sources (beyond wreckage), and from then it'll be time and searching, popping into SS after SS, until the rng gods bless us with a find.

So I'm with Cyalope. I don't think honking and scanning will get us anything, because we need to be flying around a bit to give things a chance to spawn.
 

Alkibiades

Alkibiades


remember kids, log out if you are about to go afk. luckily i still had enough fuel to jump to the next system. if not it would have been a challenge for the fuel rats :D
 
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