I wholeheartedly agree.
Where is the news regarding 2.1/Engineers?
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I wholeheartedly agree.
Ahh I thought you meant something after june that had me sweating man!!
I dont think any one is really mad that we have to wait for 2.1 except for the small minority with icy hearts that complain about everything. I think there is so much make it or break talk because we are left out in the dark for information. Going with the flow only goes so far because 5 months is still a considerable amount of time to wait for them to go dark all together.
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Where ?
"They working hard to deliver the best" blah blah blah.
IMHO, they've delayed 2.1 to June to match Steam Summer Sale and get the best revenue selling "overhauled" ED.
Of course all the hype will be in May, when 2.1 beta hits, to attract as many people as they can before the Steam Summer Sale.
There will be new sneak peaks, new trailers, new videos, new Q&A sessions and more of course.
See what i'm saying?
It's a great marketing. Just a business, nothing personal, CMDRs.
IMHO, they've delayed 2.1 to June to match Steam Summer Sale and get the best revenue selling "overhauled" ED.
Of course all the hype will be in May, when 2.1 beta hits, to attract as many people as they can before the Steam Summer Sale.
There will be new sneak peaks, new trailers, new videos, new Q&A sessions and more of course.
See what i'm saying?
It's a great marketing. Just a business, nothing personal, CMDRs.
I have no idea what youre talking about. The 'new delay' you link too is a month old, and tells you beta is in may.
Btw, they gave an explanation: its a big update and they need more time. Sounds like a legit reason.
Not at all makes no business sense what you are saying
Frontier had to release this info to the stockmarket which would harm their standing within the wider business community and shareholders so impacting share price
If make no business sense to delay an announced update for a couple of months to hit a sale, however they would be crucified for releasing something early that fails
Of course if you think "hitting a summer sale" is of greater importance than "maintaining shareholder confidence" then that's up to you
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I think there's a thread specifically on this.
But my view is that Frontier have never defined a season as a year., I tend to think this was probably intentional, specifically for the reason that in software dev land you cannot know in advance with 100% certainty how long something will take. With any decent sized project the unexpected always crops up however well planned you are, so the plan has to account for that with leeway, and at that point providing precise estimates isn't gonna be the best course of action because ultimately that's going to be misleading.
Remember when for Horizons Frontier kept saying "thanksgiving" and would not provide anything more specific.
So with 2.1 it's looking like an ~8 week run over. This in itself is not that big of an issue but in the context of a "season" it is a bit of a problem due to the expectations of how long a season would be.
My feeling is Frontier will bite the bullet on this one, they've already advertised 2.1/2.2/2.3/2.4 so this is what they'll deliver during season 2.
It's just that the notion of season is then likely to be extended a touch, possibly 14 months instead of 12?
Who knows though.
Frontier have constantly talked about the issue being dependencies, in that they cannot do A before B is in and that needs C and so on, so the order they do things is somewhat limited and defined by this.
It may well have been that season 2 as a whole is *heavily dependent* on 2.1 and that means a whole bunch of work up front.
Multicrew (2.2) and CMDR creation (2.3) are gonna need procedural face generation implemented, and since 2.1 contains that it seems the core of that will be in the codebase with this first update.
In that respect, due to the nature of getting all the dependencies in place being a huge amount of work, the work required for the season as a whole may well be disproportionately skewed to 2.1.
And so we may find 2.2/2.3 at least, possibly 2.4 are completed much quicker due to much of the underlying framework having already been done in 2.1.
Ship launched fighters, 2.4, seems like it might be heavily dependent on 2.2, I guess it's possible there 2.2 might take longer than 2.4?
I guess you could also take the point of view that if we get 14 months out of a season, well you've got your money's worth due to the increased amount of work that's gone into it. I mean frontier aren't gonna be lazing around right now doing nowt, they're gonna be working their butts off to hit a (possibly) overtight deadline.
I know people don't like delays but ultimately this means the the feature is to be improved, and that's a plus. I'd rather they delay than cut stuff. Just needs a bit of patience.
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Doh yeah this put it much more succinctly that I did.
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Sorry can you source this please?
Why do you think it's July?
Just to throw it out there the livestream on powerplay there was a comment along the lines of "couple more of these type streams then the 2.1 livestreams come along". That implies a few more weeks + some 2.1 leadups + beta. To me that says probably beta starting about 4-5 weeks from now sometime mid-May to early June.
All speculation but that's how I read between the lines.
All speculation but that's how I read between the lines.
I played 650 hours before horizon. 23 hours after horizon. Even in July im not sure im gona be playing ED after the updates. Its unfortunate for ED that No man's Sky is coming in July too. I think i will be there. Its gona take a miracle to convince me to pay another 60$ for season 3 in ED..
This exactly, people don't seem to understand how hard it is to develop, they aren't used to seeing the development process or concept art that doesn't make it into the game itself, despite people having been able to buy artbooks that clearly have stuff not in the games, people still don't grasp the development process, and often feels like they just sit and go "I want this now!" a lot of people of late come across as very entitled.
Hm, Beta in May and probably Release in June will make the schedule much more tighter, if FD wants to stick to 1 season=1 year.
Also, these delays keep telling me something: "Re-fit the Conda, get out there. Re-fit the Conda, get out there"...
Also, these delays keep telling me something: "Re-fit the Conda, get out there. Re-fit the Conda, get out there"...
Well, you have to remember 2.1 contains a LOT of stuff that isn't pertaining to engineers, missions and AI and such, a lot of basics, that once they are working is something that only needs a tweak here and there, and once that is done the next updates, which yes will be a bit pressured as 2.2 was supposed to be summer with june is? but not impossibly so if the ground work has been put down in 2.1
Look, we know pretty much nothing about 2.2-2.4. Its a lot easier keeping a schedule that way...
But they should rush things and put out good stuff!!!!!
Could have sworn I saw something in one of the more popular 2.1 threads about this several hours ago.
In the absence of that post, though, I'll chalk it up to Australia's financial year starting in July, while the UK's apparently starts around now.
Trust me, if that were true there'd be a riot on the boards right now.
I don't think it was an out-and-out statement ie. "It will launch in July"; rather more "Launching June-July". If I see it I'll be sure to link here.
This is good news.
My understanding is it's officially May.
BUT....
From past experience Frontier seem to have a habit of, just a week or so before release, adding a couple more weeks on, but then consistently hitting THAT target.
This is why everyone's saying May (actually possibly early June).
I have no idea if that's the beta though, hmm maybe your July might not be too far off after all. [sour]
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Hmm oh.
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