So, has anyone found signs of "the missing" yet?
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The "Tales from the Frontier" book had the story "Children of Zeus" involving some of the "missing".
LTT 15493 was the system named, which is ... odd. The story is set post-Alliance, so some time in the last century. The conversation makes it seem like the system is quite some way out from Sol (and possibly rimwards) - but that system is just on the edge of the bubble nowadays.
The story is probably not referring to that system, but it might be worth taking a look anyway - the book says first planet molten-temperature metal rich or HMC, and fourth planet earth-like. Anyone in the bubble at the moment to check and post a system map?
LTT 15493 was the system named, which is ... odd. The story is set post-Alliance, so some time in the last century. The conversation makes it seem like the system is quite some way out from Sol (and possibly rimwards) - but that system is just on the edge of the bubble nowadays.
The story is probably not referring to that system, but it might be worth taking a look anyway - the book says first planet molten-temperature metal rich or HMC, and fourth planet earth-like. Anyone in the bubble at the moment to check and post a system map?
This is why I think it unlikely the missing would be anywhere too far. Even to get out of the bubble, they'd have needed some form of FTL travel - at sublight speeds they can't be too far.
Whilst sub-light-speed vessels might not have reached very far beyond the bubble, there are other sources of 'missing' ships and colonies. From reading Drew Wagar's helpful blog about hyperspace ( http://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/hyperspace-the-definitive-guide/ ), there are also vessels that suffered mis-jumps and even the fate of the colonies that could only be reached by the use of the Galcop-era Galactic Hyperdrives that should be considered.
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Thinking about what Salome said last night on the livestream, I thought about what signs of missing colonies could be contained within our scan data that we might have overlooked. One possibility occurred (other than someone just plain not noticing a space station or base because they just scanned the system in passing without even looking at the system map): the state of a system's resources. Even without a detailed surface scan, or scanning a body without using the detailed surface scanner, the discovery scanners reveal whether a belt or ring has pristine reserves, or major, common or depleted depending upon the extent of past exploitation. If non-pristine reserves were observed in a system more than 1KLY outside the bubble, beyond the regions presently being exploited, that would be an interesting find indeed. I'll be keeping an eye out for this on the Praei permit zone borders...
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Thinking about what Salome said last night on the livestream, I thought about what signs of missing colonies could be contained within our scan data that we might have overlooked. One possibility occurred (other than someone just plain not noticing a space station or base because they just scanned the system in passing without even looking at the system map): the state of a system's resources. Even without a detailed surface scan, or scanning a body without using the detailed surface scanner, the discovery scanners reveal whether a belt or ring has pristine reserves, or major, common or depleted depending upon the extent of past exploitation. If non-pristine reserves were observed in a system more than 1KLY outside the bubble, beyond the regions presently being exploited, that would be an interesting find indeed. I'll be keeping an eye out for this on the Praei permit zone borders...
If no-one else does, I will check it when I return from Alnilam - be a few hours yet though.
(edited to add) I have arrived in LTT 15493. I could see the system map already through UC, so hopefully everyone is able to.
There is an Earth-like world (Jarek's Folly), although it's the third planet not the fourth. There's a named gas giant (Sun Dancer) close in to the star after an asteroid belt, and there are five other planets, three of which can be landed on.
The system description says something along the lines of "nothing to see here, move along." I will have a poke around.
(edited to add) No lights are visible on the night-side of Jarek's Folly. There is an odd little storm on Sun Dancer but nothing special. I've investigated a few signal sources and found nothing more than factionless pirates and wrecks. Continuing to nose...
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Won't the Missing stop being the Missing when they're found?
That's why I always glance at the system map while the FSD is charging, sometimes you see things that really do merit closer inspection.
Yep, they will then be called the Ex-Missing, or the Formerly Known as Missing .
That's definitely the system, then - the name of the ELW fits (as does its position, now I've compared with the naming scheme in the book). Should have a single small low-tech settlement near the ruins of the colony ship - we'd never pick it up from orbit with our equipment, though.
The system position - well within the bubble! - does not fit with the book, however.
The system position - well within the bubble! - does not fit with the book, however.
I spent a little time exploring the system.
Link to album with planet-by-planet details.
Short version is that I didn't find anything out of the ordinary - at every turn I encountered things, but only the usual business of the Bubble.
I returned various black boxes and data but unsurprisingly nothing happened when I sold them.
The system is missing a planet 6 (although there are seven planets, Sun Dancer isn't numbered and would be planet 0 if it were); I looked for one using parallax but couldn't find anything. The gap between V and 7 (sic) isn't especially large so I would expect to have seen it if it were there.
Link to album with planet-by-planet details.
Short version is that I didn't find anything out of the ordinary - at every turn I encountered things, but only the usual business of the Bubble.
I returned various black boxes and data but unsurprisingly nothing happened when I sold them.
The system is missing a planet 6 (although there are seven planets, Sun Dancer isn't numbered and would be planet 0 if it were); I looked for one using parallax but couldn't find anything. The gap between V and 7 (sic) isn't especially large so I would expect to have seen it if it were there.
Yep, I've encountered some of the missing. I felt duty bound to sacrifice them to the blackhole gods at Sag A. Hallowed be the Void That Sees All!