Fermi Paradox - Where are they?

Arowx

Arowx
Just wondering how the Fermi Paradox fits into the Elite Universe.

In a nutshell the Fermi Paradox is the question 'Where are they?', they being alien life forms.

More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

But given the age of the Universe and the massive amount of star systems within it why isn't it teaming with alien life. Even without FTL the first rocket powered species could have set out and populated the Universe many times over by now.

So does the Elite Universe have an answer to the Fermi Paradox?
 

Mobius

Mobius
I would hope that with the starting area being so small compared to the rest of the galaxy I would think that FD would implement other races, we already have the thargoids, so with the law of averages saying that there are two known intelligent races in the game statically there should be a few thousand intelligent civilizations out there.
 

Vhaegrant

V
It may be more like this -> What if? Alien Astronomers , but in reverse ;)

They may be out there, but we'll have to go to their planet and knock on their door. Or, vice-versa.

Thargoids are in the game, and other regions of the Galaxy have been reserved for potential expansions.
 
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Tinman

Tinman
I also remember reading somewhere David talking about how he wanted "first contact" to be special in the game (excluding the Thargoids of course). Another reason why this most likely will be done as a future update. I'm guessing this is a couple of years away for now...
 

Lobstris

Lobstris
Liqua said:
IIRC FD have said other than Thargoids (who will be "somewhere" at release) there are no aliens, only humanoids.
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So is 'Thargoids' the Elite Universe answer to the paradox? As in intelligent life appears to use hyperspace, annnnnnnd.... *BLAT* Thargoids to the face.
 

Vargur

Vargur
It's very difficult to estimate things like these.
At best you could estimate with an accuracy of a few orders of magnitute.
A lot of variables play a role in trying to estimate how many there are 'out there' and most of those variables are just plain simple educated guesses.
So it could be plausible that there are no other sentient alien races out there, but there could also be 100 or more.

There is only a small chance of us meeting an alien species that is at the same 'tech' level as we are because while the galaxy is huge, the timescale at which the galaxy has existed is equally huge compared to the amount of time humanity and perhaps equally advanced races would remain in this tech level.

What however should be more frequent encounter is alien artifacts and ruins.
There might not be any other species alive now, or maybe only a few with which contact is very difficult to attain, but you could certainly assume that there will have been many such civilizations in the past that have come and go trough the eons.

Seeing as how vague this subject is, and how inaccurate estimates are, FD really has pretty much complete freedom on how they wish to populate the galaxy since both very populated (with sentient alien life) or unpopulated are equally plausible.
 

Qpid Stunt

Qpid Stunt
DB has already said a fair bit about discovering Alien artefacts when exploring so I'm pretty sure they will be there but whether the race that left them will be is anyone's guess :eek:
 

Aewarin Jameson

Aewarin Jameson
Lobstris said:
So is 'Thargoids' the Elite Universe answer to the paradox? As in intelligent life appears to use hyperspace, annnnnnnd.... *BLAT* Thargoids to the face.
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I guess.

As Tinman alluded to there is no reason why there can't be more alien species as FD can do anything they like, but IMO that's unlikely. I though that Thargoids had retreated and no one knew where they were which explains the "reveal" Tinman mentions.

Time will tell.
 

Mobius

Mobius
FD would be shooting themselves in the foot if they flatly refused to add new races, the galaxy is big and the humans only populate a tiny area. and we know that the thargoids exist, its already been said that FD will block off areas of the galaxy for future updates and this would make sense to introduce new races. Elite is hoping to have a minimum 10 year lifespan so it would make sense to keep things alive by introducing new races during this time period. otherwise regardless of the size of the galaxy elite will become dull within a few years once everyone has finished with the empire and feds.

FD wont admit to new races now but I will put money on it that we will see new races at some point.
 

Mephane

Mephane
As far as I know, the Elite universe follows the rare intelligence hypothesis, where primitive life is abundant but intelligent life extremely rare, as in maybe a handful of intelligent species in the entire galaxy, probably not all even spacefaring.
 

Darkfyre99

Darkfyre99
Arowx said:
Just wondering how the Fermi Paradox fits into the Elite Universe.

In a nutshell the Fermi Paradox is the question 'Where are they?', they being alien life forms.

More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

But given the age of the Universe and the massive amount of star systems within it why isn't it teaming with alien life. Even without FTL the first rocket powered species could have set out and populated the Universe many times over by now.

So does the Elite Universe have an answer to the Fermi Paradox?
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Yes. The Empire committed genocide on the only sapient alien species found in human explored space. (Thargoids not included.)
 

Tinman

Tinman
Liqua said:
I guess.

As Tinman alluded to there is no reason why there can't be more alien species as FD can do anything they like, but IMO that's unlikely. I though that Thargoids had retreated and no one knew where they were which explains the "reveal" Tinman mentions.

Time will tell.
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Actually, the Thargoids will be in the game in the first release as Michael talked about here:

http://youtu.be/O6z5OK8J5pg?t=7m35s

Other races being discovered has also been mentioned by David himself in the video below. 7:24 to be exact, but I linked a bit earlier in the video to get the context.

http://youtu.be/EM0Gcl7iUM8?t=6m33s
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
I think FD have said that there are no other intelligent beings *at the beginning of the ED timeline*. Nothing about adding or not adding them later.
 

Aewarin Jameson

Aewarin Jameson
Tinman said:
Actually, the Thargoids will be in the game in the first release as Michael talked about here:

http://youtu.be/O6z5OK8J5pg?t=7m35s

Other races being discovered has also been mentioned by David himself in the video below. 7:24 to be exact, but I linked a bit earlier in the video to get the context.

http://youtu.be/EM0Gcl7iUM8?t=6m33s
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The context of other races was used when DB said what the explorers would think, not what he though as he doesn't give anything away. He himself said they are not sure yet but reserved space for the future for when they are.

As I said, time will tell.
 

Memnoch

M
Arowx said:
But given the age of the Universe and the massive amount of star systems within it why isn't it teaming with alien life. Even without FTL the first rocket powered species could have set out and populated the Universe many times over by now.
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If these species were of a comparable technological level to ourselves the galaxy could well be teeming and we would never know, other than picking up some obscure broadcasts from their world. But the universe was around for a long time before even our own solar system existed. Who know what species could have evolved or destroyed themselves in those aeons?

For all we know these species could indeed be rocketing about the galaxy at sub light speeds for centuries and given that the galaxy, let alone the entire universe, is such an impossibly huge size they could just be passing by each other undetected.
 
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