What about the videos where the FDL is on the Python's back the entire fight and barely takes any damage at all?
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So someone keeps arguing that the Python is better then the FDL at PvP...I'm open to changing my mind...
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Ummm, good luck the python getting much of a shot in against equal and decent pilots. Python will either overheat or run out of shields long before the FDL is out of shots. If you'd like, I'd be happy to test my point of view against yours if we can find a mutual time and place to meet. This isn't some chest thumping, by the way. If rebuy price is an issue I'll happily play to %20 hull or whatever you find fitting.
Edit: do let me finish the current CG first though. It's been a while since I got to relax in my Clipper
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Ummm, good luck the python getting much of a shot in against equal and decent pilots. Python will either overheat or run out of shields long before the FDL is out of shots. If you'd like, I'd be happy to test my point of view against yours if we can find a mutual time and place to meet. This isn't some chest thumping, by the way. If rebuy price is an issue I'll happily play to %20 hull or whatever you find fitting.
Edit: do let me finish the current CG first though. It's been a while since I got to relax in my Clipper
Well i mean i pvp with the best all day every day so i've tested this theory day in day out multiple times against the likes of ctrl and bbfa in particular and they like to run pythons more than anyone else.
When i say the MC PA build cant alpha down a tank python, it's cause i've been there, i've tried against the top pvp'ers, and it's near impossible to crack in a small wing fight.
Who said it was wrong to use it for PvP? Nobody. We have however said that the FDL is BETTER at PvP.
So then why does nearly nobody agree with you? If this was the case you would think someone would have heard of this great advantage the Python has and exploited it.
Yet you get what, a single person so far who agrees with you? A close to a dozen different people and counting all say otherwise.
How about some video proof?
If you actually read my post you would see I said the python is just as good as the FDL if flown correctly, its just much harder to fly at that level.
A python can have 2 class 6 SCB firing at once. It is simply impossible for 4 people to out dps that.
There are some videos of people using pythons in the pvp tournament...its not unheard of. Regardless of any video proof, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that 2 class 6 SCB is a whole lot of recharge.
I'll take that as a yes then. I'm on PC and my CMDR name is Ozram. Feel free to friend or PM and soon as this CG is done I'm happy to have a go.
I used to think the same way about the Python. But the canopy seems paper thin. The FdL is deadly mean and with 2 class 3 weapons has quite a punch. Now an ace or near ace in a python could take me in my FdL but then I SUCK at PvP. But someone near the same skill as me in a python would be a debris field.
Well, I mean the cutter does require about 21 LY's to do a 180. I'd imagine anything would feel like a Vulture in comparision =D
I do this as well, and find it works well (very low drain from the MCs allows for plenty of PA usage) - yet I keep hearing rails recommended. Won't they drain the capacitor extremely quick?
I've flown a pvp python for a few months in 1.5 and I had about 40 kills on FDL cmdrs against 2 loses.
In a 1v1, the slow turn rate of the python can be mitigated with FA off+boost and running duel class 6A scbs gives it 3500 mjs of shields. Where the python lacks in speed, it gains in ramming power: it usually only takes 1-2 ram from a shielded python to get a FDL from 100% hull to 0% - most of my kills come from well-timed rams.
The FDL is no doubt better than the python in wing pvp simply because it's much harder to focus on a stealth fdl than a shielded python, but in 1v1, the python is certainly very viable if you know how to work its strengths and weaknesses.
In a 1v1, the slow turn rate of the python can be mitigated with FA off+boost and running duel class 6A scbs gives it 3500 mjs of shields. Where the python lacks in speed, it gains in ramming power: it usually only takes 1-2 ram from a shielded python to get a FDL from 100% hull to 0% - most of my kills come from well-timed rams.
The FDL is no doubt better than the python in wing pvp simply because it's much harder to focus on a stealth fdl than a shielded python, but in 1v1, the python is certainly very viable if you know how to work its strengths and weaknesses.
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In a ramming contest a well shielded FDL would crush a Python's shields. The FDL can have almost double the shields of a Python (not counting SCB's), so when you ram a Prismatic FDL with your Python, he will lose 1 shield ring and you will lose 2, even if you have maxed out boosters on the Python.
Maybe you have been ramming FDL cmdrs that dont know what a shield booster is? Or are talking about ramming NPCs?
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From what I read it is only one guy who says that his piloting skills make the Python superior.
Perhaps he is that good. Perhaps he has been lucky.
As far as my experience goes I believe the FDL is a very powerful ship.
It is fast and maneuverable and does not suffer from overheating when you use SCB.
Having said that a War Python is a dangerous ship in the hands of a good pilot.
It never is the ship alone that wins a battle. It is also very important who sits in the pilot's chair.
Luck is a bit of a factor too of course.
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Fer-De-Lance even buffed after 1.5 is complete garbage. Even Cobra is a better ship.
Of course Python is 100x better in PVP.
I think this ship should not cost that much. It is expansive flying red garbage.
Put on Python 2 medium turreted beams and all other multicannons and you will beat FDL in seconds.
I hate FDL because i tried to outfit it many times and all tests failed.
It looses shields and crashes so fast that you have to go to station every time you take wing of 3 NPC's. If you actually can take out 3 ships.
When i see FDL WANTED player in open play i always interdicting and kicking banana on my CUTTER.
Why? Because someone has to end this stupidity saying FDL is a good combat ship. It is aspud.
Of course Python is 100x better in PVP.
I think this ship should not cost that much. It is expansive flying red garbage.
Put on Python 2 medium turreted beams and all other multicannons and you will beat FDL in seconds.
I hate FDL because i tried to outfit it many times and all tests failed.
It looses shields and crashes so fast that you have to go to station every time you take wing of 3 NPC's. If you actually can take out 3 ships.
When i see FDL WANTED player in open play i always interdicting and kicking banana on my CUTTER.
Why? Because someone has to end this stupidity saying FDL is a good combat ship. It is aspud.
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NURSE! He's out again!Fer-De-Lance even buffed after 1.5 is complete garbage. Even Cobra is a better ship.
Of course Python is 100x better in PVP.
I think this ship should not cost that much. It is expansive flying red garbage.
Put on Python 2 medium turreted beams and all other multicannons and you will beat FDL in seconds.
I hate FDL because i tried to outfit it many times and all tests failed.
It looses shields and crashes so fast that you have to go to station every time you take wing of 3 NPC's. If you actually can take out 3 ships.
When i see FDL WANTED player in open play i always interdicting and kicking ass on my CUTTER.
Why? Because someone has to end this stupidity saying FDL is a good combat ship. It is aspud.
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I got one, yeah. I'm far better in the FDL than the Python, it suits my style.Hah. You must be flying that garbage.