2.1 - stop the hype train

The hype train derailed a while back. Yesterday there were 6 people playing Arena on Steam and less than 1400 playing the regular game. It's a ghost town galaxy and the reviews get worse and worse. 2.1 better pull a miracle.


I do not play ED since January, after my disappointment with Horizons (But it's a personal opinion). If really the next update does not add content to the game, ED will stand aside for a long time.
 
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The hype train derailed a while back. Yesterday there were 6 people playing Arena on Steam and less than 1400 playing the regular game. It's a ghost town galaxy and the reviews get worse and worse. 2.1 better pull a miracle.

But this can't be right surely? That group of 20k players that keeps getting promoted is surely the backbone of the game. Looking at your figures even they aren't playing it. I hope the next update delivers, yet I'm starting to think this game is going south. I won't enjoy saying so but I will tell everyone I told them this was going to happen.

Catering to the risk averse and forumdads is killing the potential of this game and folks will move on. Flogging a dead horse isn't much fun.
 
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There are only a few weeks left until 2.1 beta starts and I have seen lots of comments like:

"This will be fixed in 2.1", "2.1 will be a game changer", "If they don't deliver in 2.1 I'll leave the game"

I think you will be disappointed. There will be bugs, lots of bugs. The game will not turn into Eve and they will not introduce a client-server architecture. There will be no epic quests and you should not even think about becoming the saviour of the universe. Don't expect thargoids. You'll think Engineers are just a shallow and meaningless gameplay addition, basically the same grind again, and they should have improved the core professions instead. You'll not feel like you got your money's worth. Ultimately Horizons is a major rip-off and 2.1 is just the final nail in the coffin of a game that died 2 years ago when Frontier decided to remove offline mode.

On the bright side, they will improve the game - just like they did with every update so far.

Its a long process fixing what you screwed up. It involves rewrites. If it were done right in the first place a lot of stuff wouldn't need to be remade. But financial pressure et al. So here we are. Any changes and improvements are welcomed. Will this patch fix the game? Not entirely but will it add enough content and depth to the game to tide it over until season 3? Possibly. But if its the same grind / treadmill after a week or two of "wow sparkly new things" then a LOT of people will be out. The biggest thing will be season 3 - nobody is going to buy it this time around no matter what they promise. This is the patch that makes Season 2 worth the buy or people are out.
 
The hype train derailed a while back. Yesterday there were 6 people playing Arena on Steam and less than 1400 playing the regular game. It's a ghost town galaxy and the reviews get worse and worse. 2.1 better pull a miracle.

Disagree. Plenty of people will still be playing the game even if 2.1 wasn't even happening. The galaxy is not a ghost town where I am at Beagle Point. 2.1 does not need to be a miracle.
The doom mongers are here as predicted by the OP. Break out the chocolate.
 

Goose4291

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There's only one thing thatll stop the 2.1 hype train


That's when people stop stating that any glitch or bug will be fixed in 2.1 without any evidence to back it up.
 

rootsrat

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The hype train derailed a while back. Yesterday there were 6 people playing Arena on Steam and less than 1400 playing the regular game. It's a ghost town galaxy and the reviews get worse and worse. 2.1 better pull a miracle.

That could be true if Steam was some kind of Oracle...
 
Disagree. Plenty of people will still be playing the game even if 2.1 wasn't even happening. The galaxy is not a ghost town where I am at Beagle Point. 2.1 does not need to be a miracle.
The doom mongers are here as predicted by the OP. Break out the chocolate.

A small number of people might be enjoying the game but those people aren't going to be able to sustain the further and future development of ED.

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That could be true if Steam was some kind of Oracle...

Its a pretty decent gauge of active players.
 
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The hype train derailed a while back. Yesterday there were 6 people playing Arena on Steam and less than 1400 playing the regular game. It's a ghost town galaxy and the reviews get worse and worse. 2.1 better pull a miracle.

Well according to steam there were roughly 4000 people playing the main game yesterday.

Non of this includes the players that don't use steam. Just looking at average daily stats is pretty meaningless, you need to look at the overall picture.

Daily amounts of around 4-6000 seems to be the norm for Elite from the time it was released there.

You also need to add the the fact that not everybody plays the game everyday. Those 4-6000 player will be different player, so you cannot tell what the steam player base is from that stat. Myself, I only play once or twice a week, and I am sure that there are alot of other casual players like me out there.

I cant see any problems with the player numbers personally at the moment, and when 2.1 hits you can be sure that they will go up.
 
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Goose4291

Banned
Let me guess ... hyperbole?

I knew it! :)

It's not hyperbole when everytime someone points out a bug or exploit they are told that the issue will be addressed in 2.1 by non-frontier employees, ambassadors , backers or moderators acting like an authority on the games development.

Building a patch up like this up to being the silver bullet to all these problems is only going to lead to more disappoint .

Personally I'm just sitting back waiting for it to drop and not particularly hyped.
 
A small number of people might be enjoying the game but those people aren't going to be able to sustain the further and future development of ED.
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It kinds of depends if ED is the sort of game that lives by it's concurrent player count or the willingness of existing owners to buy fancy new upgrades and features.

As so many point out ED is more of a single player experience augmented by others playing the same game and occasionally cropping up. So I tend to think it's the later, so I think it lives and dies on Frontier's ability to design a business model around people always buying new content. Not a model they have proved works, but certainly a dip in concurrent people actually playing the game doesn't automatically mean the franchise is finished. They sold units of base game, people like shiny shiny new things - so assuming they have developers working on bold new novelty features there is likely to be future spikes and potential growth as people find new thins they like. This is normally the point where other franchises simply build a sequel, the difficult second act.

Anyway the steam stats don't really tell us that EvE online only had 1260 peak over the past 24 hours. Does that prove much? I don't load ED into Steam.
 
While i don't like hype trains, they do make for lovely arrival scenes:

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