Robigo recompensation?

[[DOOK] Droogie]

Except work is real, this is a game

This matters because? They screwed up. It isn't unreasonable to ask for them to fix it. At the very least ask to reactivate the mission. It's their responsibility as developers.

We are consumers of their product. It is simply good customer service to fix your mistakes.

 

[CMDR Pugwash]

This matters because? They screwed up. It isn't unreasonable to ask for them to fix it. At the very least ask to reactivate the mission. It's their responsibility as developers.

We are consumers of their product. It is simply good customer service to fix your mistakes.

lol. Do you take your bag for life back when it gets a hole?

 

[Gedemon]

This matters because? They screwed up. It isn't unreasonable to ask for them to fix it. At the very least ask to reactivate the mission. It's their responsibility as developers.

We are consumers of their product. It is simply good customer service to fix your mistakes.

Yes please FD, fix the mission logging exploit ASAP.

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

Yes please FD, fix the mission logging exploit ASAP.

It isn't an exploit. It's "against the spirit of the game". Which means nothing. I'll also be fine with it once they fix the missions. I should be able to get those missions without mode switching. It's a broken system. Missions should be organized by type and rank. You shouldn't have to rely on the RNG to not only give you the proper type, but one suited to your rank.

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lol. Do you take your bag for life back when it gets a hole?

It's their screw up. I don't see anything wrong with holding them accountable. That's what customer service is for. Bugs break the game. It's their job to fix it. It's what they get paid for. It's their product. You are the consumer. If a restaurant screws up my meal, I ask them to fix it. It's the same thing. I pay for a service, and if they screw it up, I ask them to fix it. It's part of being the consumer.

 

[Gedemon]

It isn't an exploit. It's "against the spirit of the game". Which means nothing.

yes, well, okay, mission stacking is not an exploit, like instascans are not bugs but funny features to punish those who play against the spirit of the game

 

[Forlorn]

yes, well, okay, mission stacking is not an exploit, like instascans are not bugs but funny features to punish those who play against the spirit of the game

Luckily, FD are the ones who get to decide if something is an exploit or a bug. Which takes us back to the original question - "Have you been recompensated for a bug happening during Robigo? Not including ship loss"

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

yes, well, okay, mission stacking is not an exploit, like instascans are not bugs but funny features to punish those who play against the spirit of the game

Except instascans are a bug, as are instant interdictions, NPC's ramming while scanning, etc. I guess they are also there to "punish" normal traders, too. I got instantly interdicted 4 times yesterday in my Cutter delivering Mineral Extractors for the CG. I guess that was there was of "punishing me" for participating in a CG.

Missions stacking is currently the only way to get missions. All of those missions are already there. They're just not in the same instance. That, or sit around for hours and hours and hours to get enough missions to make the 400ly journey worthwhile. You shouldn't have to switch modes to get them. They should be there under a classification.

Trade missions
Smuggling
Rank 1 missions
Rank 2 missions
Rank 3 missions etc.

That's how it should be. That's organized and intuitive. The current system is broken.


You see. I'm offering a solid argument. I'm simply holding FD accountable for their mistakes. I'm using actual facts here.

Your argument is:

 

[Gedemon]

Luckily, FD are the ones who get to decide if something is an exploit or a bug. Which takes us back to the original question - "Have you been recompensated for a bug happening during Robigo? Not including ship loss"

Of course, I'm sure they are working on adding a button on the UI to refresh the missions board and change server at the same time for 2.1.

IMO they just don't have the time and/or the technical ability to fix it before 2.1, and decided to look the other way.

Remember how fast they've "fixed" seeking luxuries and rare trading...

And BTW, the "not spirit of the game" quote was about missions stacking for rank grinding, not about making 150 millions in one run with a Python and the assurance of a "recompensation" just by invoking a bug in case anything goes wrong.

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

Of course, I'm sure they are working on adding a button on the UI to refresh the missions board and change server at the same time for 2.1.

IMO they just don't have the time and/or the technical ability to fix it before 2.1, and decided to look the other way.

Remember how fast they've "fixed" seeking luxuries and rare trading...

And BTW, the "not spirit of the game" quote was about missions stacking for rank grinding, not about making 150 millions in one run with a Python and the assurance of a "recompensation" just by invoking a bug in case anything goes wrong.

All they'd have to do is put all of the missions on one server like they do for commodities, ships, and modules. 2.1 is a total revamp of the mission system, though. They haven't said what that means.

You should be compensated for anything that happens due to a known bug. Whether it be the loss of an exploration ship, trade goods, or failure of a mission. It's their job to fix it. You're asking them to do their job. That's what customer service is for. That's the consumer/producer relationship.

 

[Gedemon]

All they'd have to do is put all of the missions on one server like they do for commodities, ships, and modules. 2.1 is a total revamp of the mission system, though. They haven't said what that means.

You should be compensated for anything that happens due to a known bug. Whether it be the loss of an exploration ship, trade goods, or failure of a mission. It's their job to fix it. You're asking them to do their job. That's what customer service is for. That's the consumer/producer relationship.

Yes, and as a customer I'm asking them to fix the exploits in the game before answering ridiculous demands caused by said exploit. And I'll add "please" because I'm a polite customer.

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

Yes, and as a customer I'm asking them to fix the exploits in the game before answering ridiculous demands caused by said exploit. And I'll add "please" because I'm a polite customer.

Nothing was caused by an exploit. Their mistakes cause issues in game. It is on them to fix it. That's the end of it. Again, you don't like it, therefore nobody should be allowed to do it. That's your only argument. These aren't ridiculous demands. If I order a steak medium rare, and it comes back well done, I will ask them for a new one. Your logic states that is a "ridiculous demand". I ask them to fix their mistake.

 

[Forlorn]

Yes, and as a customer I'm asking them to fix the exploits in the game before answering ridiculous demands caused by said exploit. And I'll add "please" because I'm a polite customer.

Just out of curiosity, do you have any evidence to support your claim that insta-scans (or other alleged bugs) are caused by the use of an alleged exploit, or are you simply drawing this conclusion from your own experience with these activities?

I can accept the idea of a game having bugs, but I find it difficult to believe FD would modify code in such a way to punish an exploiter. Seems like it'd be easier to shadow-ban them.

 

[smiths121]

I had this tonight in the Pleiades Sector - lost 4 missions and 6MCr - could easily have been 20 if I had used the mode jumping, do you think I should start a poll, ask for compensation from FD or call that nice law firm Lave Radio keeps advertising?

The sooner they make the missions the same across all modes the better..

Simon

 

[Forlorn]

I had this tonight in the Pleiades Sector - lost 4 missions and 6MCr - could easily have been 20 if I had used the mode jumping, do you think I should start a poll, ask for compensation from FD or call that nice law firm Lave Radio keeps advertising?

The sooner they make the missions the same across all modes the better..

Simon

Honestly, your best bet is to sell your cargo at a nearby Black Market, and go back for more. Especially since you didn't mention anything about a bug...

 

[Slack]

Let me get this straight, you broke the law, got caught and want to be compensated for your loses?

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

Let me get this straight, you broke the law, got caught and want to be compensated for your loses?

Didn't "get caught". It was a bug that caused it. Normally, you have an opportunity to get out of scan range before it completes. NPC's can bug out an scan you instantly, though. Therefore, it's a bug.

 

[Ian Skippy]

You dont get compensated for 'not earning money'. If you lose money due to a bug (assuming that even happened) you'll get it back. No money was lost here, just an opportunity to get money, so you wont get anything.

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

You dont get compensated for 'not earning money'. If you lose money due to a bug (assuming that even happened) you'll get it back. No money was lost here, just an opportunity to get money, so you wont get anything.

That's just being pedantic. Failed missions is lost money. Again with the work analogy. If you don't get paid for work, you never actually had the money. It's no different. It's an agreed upon payment for completion. It was not completed due to a bug. At the very least, they should reset the mission and let the person finish it instead of paying them.

 

[Gedemon]

Just out of curiosity, do you have any evidence to support your claim that insta-scans (or other alleged bugs) are caused by the use of an alleged exploit, or are you simply drawing this conclusion from your own experience with these activities?

I can accept the idea of a game having bugs, but I find it difficult to believe FD would modify code in such a way to punish an exploiter. Seems like it'd be easier to shadow-ban them.

The "feature" part was a joke, of course it's a bug.

A known bug, and more seriously AFAIK from previous threads FD does compensate for it, but only one time : once you know about it just avoid smuggling mission waiting for the fix in 2.1 or a smaller update or live with it.

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

The "feature" part was a joke, of course it's a bug.

A known bug, and more seriously AFAIK from previous threads FD does compensate for it, but only one time : once you know about it just avoid smuggling mission waiting for the fix in 2.1 or a smaller update or live with it.

One time? There's no precedent for that. You should avoid all activities, not just smuggling if that's the case. It affects more than just smuggling. It affects any type of interdiction. Again, happened to me 4 times in my Cutter yesterday delivering goods to the CG. The instant interdiction, that is.