What takes you out of the game?

Fighting against a Clipper in a clearly superior combat ship only to be rammed and lose all shields and half hull and be out of the fight. Seriously, fix the GODAMN Clippers ramming mechanic. Fastest ship in game, 3rd most armorable, SCB stack machine, AND the damn thing can ram ANY ship in this game and insta-win??? Seriously FD, blow me.

Or even if this clipper doesnt ram you some scrammbled egg headed "security" npc security will--and during your fight against a ship s/he ought to be helping you with. Then when that ram scan is clear he will fly in front of your ship get tagged while your ship is clearly target locked onto the wanted ship and bam...you are fined and wanted like a murderer and each and every ship in the area insta-knows this without having to scan you... is the water that bad in Britian these days?
 
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Firstly, let me congratulate you on digging up a thread from 6 months ago.

Sarcasm. Why shouldn't I answer a 6-months old thread? What is your problem with it?

Secondly, looking at your concerns, it might be best for you to not play this game, but Space Engine instead, which might be more to your liking in terms of realism.

Straw man attack. I wasn't demanding the game be made more realistic, I was merely answering the OP's question: 'What takes you out of the game?' I didn't ask for a volunteer moderator to patronize me about what is reasonable to expect in the game. This thread isn't about the game as much as it is about defining astronomical realism.

Layout of star systems: Erm, strongly disagree. Within the bounds of what might exist in reality, there is a lot of variation. From systems with no planets to multiple star systems with really crazy configurations. Maybe you need to explore more.

Sarcasm again: 'Erm'. One of my specialisms as an amateur astronomer is measuring the changing separations of multiple star systems. They can joust in very thin ellipses about empty(?) centres of gravity. Also having attended lectures given by astrophysicists working on exoplanet exploration, I know something about it. I guess it doesn't really come across in the System Map view, if the system configurations in ED really are wildly eccentric. As an explorer in Elite Dangerous, I've visited well over 5,000 systems from one end of the Galaxy to the other, if that's a fair representation.

Milky way bigger: Erm.... its modelled on what we knew when FD rolled the dice a couple of years ago for the final time. There was some news last year that scientists thing the galaxy is bigger than initially expected, but FD can't reroll the dice for the whole galaxy each time some new info is discovered.

Sarcasm again: 'Erm....' When I was a boy the Galaxy was about 100kly across. Today it is thought to be 100-180kly across. Both figures are bigger than the ED Galaxy. But it wasn't important. I wasn't demanding it be changed. I know full well the die has been cast. That's why it didn't even occur to me to mention the great cubic blocks of blue stars to be found towards the Core.

No globular clusters: Probably never will be now, since the dice have already been rolled. You'll have to live with this one.

I'd already made up my mind to. Again, I'm just answering the OP.

Alien habitation: Umm... you know those lights are from human settlements, not alien right? They only occur in inhabited systems. And so far, we cannot land on those planets. If you are seeing night lights on ELW planets outside the bubble, then you should report it to FD. I've seen plenty of ELWs outside the bubble though, and never seen this. If you mean there should be alien habitations on ELWs outside the bubble, then not necessarily, depends on whether FD add alien species besides outselves that can survive on ELWs. The Thargoids apparently can live on Ammonia Worlds.

Sarcasm again. Straw man attack again. As if I really think that the night lights on ELWs in the Bubble are put there by aliens, or have seen them outside of the Bubble. I merely thought to put out the idea that it would be exciting if not realistic to discover night lights outside of the Bubble in-game. Many players live in hope of FD including alien life forms in future, and even expect a Thargoid storyline at some point.

Anyway, you note your two main issues, the former, if really an issue, needs reporting to FD, who presumably are aware, but if you feel strongly about it, report it anyway. HUD is probably here to stay for a while, change your HUD colours if you wish.

Neither is what might be considered a high priority issue though. Things to be dealt with on an as-and-when-possible basis.

I have already reported these issues to FD when I first encountered them and consider my role in that respect closed.

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Finally, talking of reporting issues, I do still have an issue with the totally unnecessary and unprovoked hatchet-job you just tried to do on my perfectly reasonable, relevant - and I thought entertaining and informative - reply to the OP's thread, going out of your way to comprehensively demolish an argument which I wasn't even making, purely to present the illusion of having utterly defeated me personally, and I resent being tested in this manner. Reported.
 
While all these things regarding npcs, subprime missions, insane crime focused philosophies, interdiction glitches etc are annoying and some of them clearly dont belong in this or any game, i have and would still fly through that rattle.

But, as im engaged and enjoying rez zones in my FAS helping the local miners make a living and stay out of the insurance office it occurs to me that whether i earn 6 mill or 600Crs right now makes no difference RP wise. Theres nothing that stands on the distant HorizonTM that millions or billions of Crs would be desirable for my in game PC to acquire which could add to my in game RP immersion. Also, everything else besides staring at a rock with a mining laser (but you watch, one day that will be a crime too) you do just about is a crime (yes looting in 2.1 may make a difference in this but that depends on how that is set up--i would bet your next insurance screen that there will be excessive restrictions on this too!)
 
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I know that the Internet is a rich source of, um, independently mind viewpoints, but to say that special relativity isn't established science and is an unproven hypothesis is giving whackjobs a bad name. You might as well say that you don't believe Australia exists because you haven't been there. The evidence is very solid indeed and if it weren't true, large chunks of modern physics just wouldn't work at all. I don't suppose they'll change your mind for one minute but there are a wealth of sites on the net that explain it. You even test it yourself :

http://futurism.com/make-a-cosmic-ray-detector-at-home-and-test-relativity-2/


If you ever use a GPS, General Relativity even rears it's magnificent head :

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/1061/why-does-gps-depend-on-relativity

This^ GPS, inertial reference systems/satellites.. Our entire global navigation system works on the predictions of general relativity
 
Finally, talking of reporting issues, I do still have an issue with the totally unnecessary and unprovoked hatchet-job you just tried to do on my perfectly reasonable, relevant - and I thought entertaining and informative - reply to the OP's thread, going out of your way to comprehensively demolish an argument which I wasn't even making, purely to present the illusion of having utterly defeated me personally, and I resent being tested in this manner. Reported.

I think you invited some of the responses by framing yourself as an amateur astronomer and then making a statement like this one.

"(Talking of time, I don't believe in time dilation or relativity, I think it's the post-modern equivalent of Middle Ages quack alchemy and dogma. 'Thou shalt not travel faster than light'. But travelling faster-than-light you would certainly see wildly unusual vistas that aren't represented in Elite, things that are actually behind you rushing away in front of you in mirror image whilst moving backwards in time. But time isn't actually changing beyond its usual forward motion one second at a time everywhere in the universe at once, the apparent reverse motion of time is just an optical illusion caused by overtaking from behind light that left your point of origin further in the past. It is interesting to consider, that whilst it is theoretically possible to move in such a way as to be able to see backwards in time, as yet at least it is impossible to conceive of moving in such a way as to be able to see forwards in time, into the future. But I don't expect the game to emulate any of that.)"

What did this have to do with the OP?

Necro thread answering - well at least it gave us something to do.

Galaxy size. Out of interest what figure do you have for the galaxy size in ED. I looked, can't see it anywhere.

Alien habitation. You weren't very clear. Yep we'd all like aliens but you didn't quite explain why you are taken out of the game that well.

One person's 'entertaining and informative' is another person's 'self-aggrandisement and waffle'.




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Back on topic.

At the moment lack of variety after reaching double-elite takes me out.

Hopefully 2.1 and the Vive will bring me back in.
 
Sarcasm. Why shouldn't I answer a 6-months old thread? What is your problem with it?

Its called necro posting. We generally just lock them, but i tried to address your concerns instead. Next time i guess i'll just lock it ;)

Perhaps my comment about space engine was uncalled for, but it did seem you were really worried about the level of realism, and Space Engine does tend to do a better job in that regard.
 
Visually speaking, I would love to see accretion disks around black holes where appropriate.

I jumped into a system that has a black hole extremely close to a giant white star. That star should be on its way to an early supernova as the black hole feeds on it, forming an accretion disk.

Instead, it was just a little bit of lensing near the star. Everything stable and peaceful.
 
ESC

Save and Exit to Desktop

Yes

X


After all, it's a game. If you want real life then hitch a ride on the Starship Enterprise.

You wont even need any Credits.

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Honestly? Jump range. The bubble is so populated that range has to be tiny to make the population have any meaning. Really, though, jump ranges should be 30% or so higher IMO. I often log in and spend an hour or two just trying to get everything in order to have some fun.
 
What takes you out of the game?

The game is so boring that I can't even press the play button from the launcher. That keeps me out of it.
 
The guy knocking on my door to deliver my take-away, that takes me right out of the game. :p

That, and having to access information on my laptop which to an extent should be within the game (or at least, easier to access). Market prices in local systems, the location of combat zones, pristine ring locations for mining etc.
 
Honey, Suppers ready.... Or ,time for bed. or , Get your pants on, put away your toys, we are going to my sisters for dinner.
 
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If I remember correctly, the one who was working on A.I. Sarah Jane Avery, said if they let her loose, we wouldn't have a chance. But FD is more concerned with playable game play. Having realistic AI who can take down player newbies really quick and have a decent chance of taking down veterans isn't conducive to sales.
Well, she is back and MoM is tweeting about it - better get ready ...
The Mistress says, "Soon there will be no hiding place... I'll find you, wherever you might try to hide... Hehehehe..."
The Mistress says, "Not long to go now, my pretty little darlings. You're almost ready to be unleashed upon the world. Hehehehe..."
Have to say, I'm having fun at work these days! It's great being a computer games programmer! :D
The Mistress says, "Oh, Ferdie, you little devil! You're so much better now! But I'm sorry, you'll have to wait a bit to meet people..."
-- > But... but... but Ferdie wants to say hello to everyone! But he's got a bit of a temper... Very bad... Ferdie wanna kill...
The Mistress says, "Oooh, that FAS is a wicked little beastie now! I love him! Need to teach Ferdy some tricks as well, make him better..."
The Mistress sits on her throne, contemplating move devilishness... "You're gonna like this... not a lot... Hehehe..."
MoM - Bring it on!
 
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