Inequalities

CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost

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Becks said:
Would be interesting to hear the reasons for that wouldn't it?
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Yes, it would be interesting to know.

hunvagy said:
For me the Federation sounds like the US. And I hear enough of the US in the real world, I don't want to work for them in a game, too ;)
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The Empire is based on the roman empire. It's a society based on patronage. If you don't like a corporate controlled "democracy" you should strongly dislike a system based on the roman empire. It's the same just worse.
 

hunvagy

hunvagy
CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost said:
Yes, it would be interesting to know.



The Empire is based on the roman empire. It's a society based on patronage. If you don't like a corporate controlled "democracy" you should strongly dislike a system based on the roman empire. It's the same just worse.
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The Federation is about as democratic as the dictatorships in those independent systems, at least that is my view on things. The imperials might be based on the roman empire, but the roman empire worked, until all those barbarians broke down the doors. In the context of the game, I was more fascinated by the Empire. It has been like this back when I played Frontiers and FFE. So it was only logical to give the Feds the one finger salute and fly off as soon as my Sidey managed to escape their part of space.

Also the imperials may be hedonistic and narcisstic people who cling to the traditions of a society that disappeared thousands of years ago, but by looking at what they prohibit for their people, they are not quite as militaristic about personal freedom as the Federation is. Seriously, booze is contraband? Please tell me more about your perfect little society :D
 
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Bran Tse Mallory

Bran Tse Mallory
Siobhan said:
A few weeks ago, there was a CG where the Feds wanted to built a new Farragut. It was popular, mostly with people who wanted to stop it because it was warmongering, building a battle cruiser off the back of common folk. Well, true or not, it created a lot of noise and protest in the forums.

Yesterday, a CG started where the Imps are doing the same to build a Majestic.

I am deafened by the noise from that tumbleweed.
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The Empire has the Princess though... With blue hair... Blue! :D
 

TomP

TomP
@Siobahn to reply to the OP, it is interesting in terms of forum response; I wonder if it because this is effectively a balance to the Fed CG, whereas the Fed CG was perceived as being 'unfair' in some way. I think this CG makes sense in that it represents an arms race of sorts.

I'm amused by attempts to paint the Empire in apologist hues; the reason that I, Crown Prince of Rishair, will be contributing to this CG is because, well, I like being a baddy. Only a few hundred years ago, tens of thousands of Irish, English, Welsh and Scottish were "Barbadoed", many by the infamous Judge Jeffryes. This indentured servitude was effective slavery, and no amount of soft soap can wash that away.

But the galaxy needs baddies, otherwise, you guys wouldn't have such fun blowing us up. :)
 

SCSkunk

SCSkunk
Siobhan said:
Sure they are, but are you claiming the Imps are less so?
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I am claiming Imps are less so. :)
CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost said:
A lot of players simply love the Empire and hate the Federation without thinking about it.
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I have an irrational sense of hatred toward the Federation.
It's too militaristic, it's ships are combat-only, the bounty bonuses from Hudson are insane (I know, ALD) and Hudson snipes new players by having the Starter system firmly in his grasp, it expands by building Naval Bases, it uses fear-mongering to rally it's population against whatever imaginary enemy suits it's purpose. (Read: Eisenhower's Military Industrial Complex, but in the future)
Jakester13 said:
3. And of course, the 3 Cs: Courier Clipper Cutter
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Elegant and effective. The Empire ships, in my opinion, are perfect for BGS and Power Play. iEagle for new player budget, iCourier for Undermining, iClipper for Open CG's and pirating, iCutter for Trade/Fortification dominance.
The Fed ships are good for...combat.
Bran Tse Mallory said:
The Empire has the Princess though... With blue hair... Blue! :D
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Well, I am not a fan of hers.
 
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Turlorn

Turlorn
The Federation is building a new broadsword.
The Empire is building a new space whale.

The Alliance has discounted ASPX and DBX. So the Alliance has that going for itself, which is nice. :)
 
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hunvagy

hunvagy
Marra said:
They are both sides of the same coin.

A very nasty, self-interested and oppressive coin!
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And yet nobody complained about that coin when it was time to get ther progression free imperial ships :p Suddenly everyone from the bottom of their hearts wanted to congratulate ALD, because it was worth a ship without having to meet the requirements.
 

MVP_Bluntman

MVP_Bluntman
Why use a double standard to use as causation when you can just simply point the finger and scream havoc and let slip the hogs of war :)
 

ShimEnki

ShimEnki
xondk said:
Well, it seems to indicate to me, that it is expected behaviour for the imperials.
And it isn't when it comes to federation, and if you ask me, it is because a lot of people believe that the federation is similar to the federation of star trek and such....which it is not, the federation is based around big corporations...not 'the common folk' , so yeah, lotsa people that don't read up on the lore if you ask me.
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Then there are those of us that choose to mentally overwrite ED political definitions to suit our own pts of views. IE...To me the Feds are the Galactic Feds, (not the corporation hives in 2016 on earth) that operate from a completely different template and ref. point which acts to preserve individual sovereignty over hive minded slavery of the empire
 
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{SAS}Stalker

{SAS}Stalker
I would appose it if I could but as its already been decided that DP will build this thing, making noise in the forum is a waste of time. Its why I no longer bother with CG's despite them being on paper an interesting prospect.
 
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Siobhan

Siobhan
It doesn't appear to be enormously profitable anyway... I guess I'll stick around long enough to balance the deliveries I made for the Fed ship, and then go off to do something more fun than trade grinding.
 
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