Misson Overhaul - Same Old in New Package?

I think that's inevitable ... they aren't going to throw away all their old foundation ... but this will give a better sense of progression to players and will enable them to do things like tie rep with specific NPCs to bonuses, equipment, etc. Also, there's more information presented right there, you don't have to dig around anymore - I especially like the "xxx faction is currently at war with ...".

With this new structure in place I would think we see a better progression of increasingly difficult missions that makes sense.
 
It's about what I expected. I'm ok with that, although I was hoping for more.

With this new structure in place I would think we see a better progression of increasingly difficult missions that makes sense.

People said that the last time they overhauled the missions.
 
Just looked at the newsletter. Maybe it is just me or the way that they presented the changes, but so far I just see the same old missions in a shiny new packaging. I hope that this is not the case, as it would be a major disappointment.

Anything will be better than the current system and I hope they have learned from their mistakes.
 
Just looked at the newsletter. Maybe it is just me or the way that they presented the changes, but so far I just see the same old missions in a shiny new packaging. I hope that this is not the case, as it would be a major disappointment.

Indeed if that becomes the case a "major disappointment" would be a galactic understatement
 
What worried me was the low payouts. Let's hope they scale up nicely once you get more trusted, 50k is pretty damn low if you have 10 mill assets like the CMDR in the picture


This 1000 times and then some

also is the haughty sarcasm from the mission giver all that necessary? He'd not be so haughty if he were't some mindless construct that we can "reach out and touch"
 
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What worried me was the low payouts. Let's hope they scale up nicely once you get more trusted, 50k is pretty damn low if you have 10 mill assets like the CMDR in the picture

But it should be effected by other factors. If you have no Rep with the local faction, they are not going to give you high paying jobs until you increase that rep. Just because you have a high asset value does not mean the locals should trust you more. Just like in any MMO, you have to build that rep up with the locals in order to get the better rewards.

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This 1000 times and then some

also is the haughty sarcasm from the mission giver all that necessary? He'd not be so haughty if he were't some mindless construct that we can "reach out and touch"

Again, it should be effected by your local standing. Having the text by the local mission givers get better and more respectful, makes since and shows how you build your reputation with those locals. So yes it is necessary, and very common in MMO's.
 
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But it should be effected by other factors. If you have no Rep with the local faction, they are not going to give you high paying jobs until you increase that rep. Just because you have a high asset value does not mean the locals should trust you more. Just like in any MMO, you have to build that rep up with the locals in order to get the better rewards.

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Again, it should be effected by your local standing. Having the text by the local mission givers get better and more respectful, makes since and shows how you build your reputation with those locals. So yes it is necessary, and very common in MMO's.

Uh huh, how motivated would anyone be IRL if just because you werent allied and had a history of success with them you they chose this tone of comm? Surely MMO writers can come up with alternative narrative that displays their current trust level without resorting to bar room drool.
 
There's a saying in the UK forces. You can't polish a (starts with a T rhymes with bird).

Apparently you can at FD.

Seems like the same old dressed up in a better looking UI to me. I'll remain sceptical until proven otherwise. Faith rising slowly however.
 
Hopefully all these "mission overhauls" isn't just a misunderstanding of what FD mean. I really wished to see missions becoming more involved and complex like the Predator and Prey tutorial mission back in Alpha.
 
Uh huh, how motivated would anyone be IRL if just because you werent allied and had a history of success with them you they chose this tone of comm? Surely MMO writers can come up with alternative narrative that displays their current trust level without resorting to bar room drool.

So you expect someone to pay you top prices when you have no rep? And they have no idea who you are? NVM this is not real life, why people get stuck on that is just odd.

Why should they come up with an alternative? It works well. Its supported by Movies, Books, and most forms of entertainment, its a form that most people expect in their entertainment. Its not just MMO's many games do the exact same thing. And as you are stock on IRL, its also supported there. Also you have that as a value in your rep screen, if you don't like normal game like conversations.
 
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Taking into account that USS will be overhauled and getting mission with a specifc one on a specific place will be possible. Meaning those "get flight recorder and bring them to me" will be more likely to be from a random spawn in a random USS to be more like.

"We lost a ship dont know what happend, last coordinates are system X near planet Y go their and find the ship and bring us its flight recorder" You then fly to that system, if you dont have the cartogrphics datas you can use the nav beacon their to get all informations and then fly to your destination, get to that signal source, grab the recorder or even have a fight their.

It would be still the old boring mission but with a lot more structure in it , thats what i hope for the new mission system nothing more.
 
In response to the OP. While I hope that there are more complex missions and more mission variations. What has been shown goes a long way to improving how player interact with the missions that are currently in the game. Giving the mission givers a face, creates a connection, having dialog that is modified by your standing with them helps a player connect their actions to the game world. While it might not seem like much to some, it does go a long way to changing the game world into a living breathing universe.
 
Just looked at the newsletter. Maybe it is just me or the way that they presented the changes, but so far I just see the same old missions in a shiny new packaging. I hope that this is not the case, as it would be a major disappointment.

Wholeheartedly seconded - and if this is the case I will (also) be mighty disappointed.

All, why not wait for the Beta instead of reading a whole lot into a single static screenshot.

Where's the fun in THAT!

PS... Stop being so calm, rational and sensible!

:D
 
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I'm a little confused by the expectation, I honestly didn't expect any more. When you consider that missions can actually be targeted at specific locations in space and on planets now - that they are being given by persistent NPC's with a relationship tied to the minor factions - that the BGS is becoming far more transparent and they are giving missions that seem to benefit the factions goals and agendas I think they have done remarkably well.

Remember, it is the Loot & Crafting update, not the Missions update. They just happen to be addressing a lot of the concerns or suggestions raised last year regarding how missions are handed out and the "RNG" nature of USS/mission targets.
 
So you expect someone to pay you top prices when you have no rep? And they have no idea who you are? NVM this is not real life, why people get stuck on that is just odd.

Why should they come up with an alternative? It works well. Its supported by Movies, Books, and most forms of entertainment, its a form that most people expect in their entertainment. Its not just MMO's many games do the exact same thing. And as you are stock on IRL, its also supported there. Also you have that as a value in your rep screen, if you don't like normal game like conversations.

Lack of respect gained doesnt equate with disrespect CMDR, and just because" they all do it" doesnt mean one has to dance to it as well...Monkey see monkey do isnt always the best policy..

Re prices, top prices is relative and i have no idea what your reference point other than what was being offered is. Considering the top end hardware we bring and our experience...a few thousand is peanuts.
 
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There's a saying in the UK forces. You can't polish a (starts with a T rhymes with bird).

Apparently you can at FD.

Seems like the same old dressed up in a better looking UI to me. I'll remain sceptical until proven otherwise. Faith rising slowly however.

Not just UK forces ;)
 
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