What (and where) is GalCop space?

Something's wrong with your ISP, it took almost a year for your post to make it to Frontier.

(I was actually semi-excited to see this thread crop up and all my tinfoil started vibrating till I got to bump part).

Hahha, sorry. I came across this thread almost a year ago when researching how to "revive" GalCop. The entire thing was based on an actual lore blurb in the game, on a system, and it was about the legitimacy of using the GalCop name or if it was just cashing in.

No matter what the loremasters decide upon (aka the truth), the "official" story is some sort of ancient charter, still legal, was used to revive ancient oaths. Sort of like this:

"Hey, remember GalCop?"
"Why of course, my ancestors were sworn to them generations ago, until they fell ap-"
"Actually, it's technically still alive, and we kinda sorta need to call in those favors your great great great grandparents owed us"
"Really? Well, this looks to be in order. Guess I better go melt my plowshares back into swords"

Sure, it may well be all a fraud, a cash-in on an old dead organization. Or perhaps not. In a game where you can travel faster than light, all sorts of wonders are possible.

I'd love the guy who actually writes this stuff to sit down and fill me in on what's up with GalCop, because the internet is not very helpful on the subject.

DREW WAGNER! LOREMASTER! I CALL UPON THEE!
 
This MMOC organization looks shady. Representatives of all three major powers!?

Our secret alien overlords?

Being completely honest and telling people "we hated all the powers, but this was the only way to keep them from taking over our systems" isn't as fun as saying "giant corporate entity attempts to buy themselves their own empire", but rest assured, any story that comes out of this will be good and in the spirit of the game.

THe most delicious lore we can harvest
 
The Galactic Co-operative is only one - although the largest - of several planetary federations, and maintains trade and diplomatic links with over 2000 planets spread throughout 8 galaxies.

wow... 8 galaxies, really?
 
Yeah, that's also why I am not really sweating technicalities if the original GalCop survived or is a replica - retconning out 8 galaxies (or did they?!) should give you a little agency to tell a good story!

and a multi galaxies gameplay in the future..

hmm.. another 7 of 4 billion star systems and what? a npc intergalactic capital transport on every Sunday maybe? for some galcop skirmish missions n action..

nevermind me..
 
Yeah, that's also why I am not really sweating technicalities if the original GalCop survived or is a replica - retconning out 8 galaxies (or did they?!) should give you a little agency to tell a good story!
Loving all the hard work you're putting into this, Kermit. And...in our family Laphroaig is the only bottle worth drinking :)
I have read some of the comments by naysayers, but I believe this possible resurrection of lore is a sublime idea.
Oh, and I believe it's Drew Wagar you are looking for.
 
Cool, I didn't know there were any galcop references in game. I'm not sure I totally align with the diamond frogs ethos but I would like to see a return of galcop. Good work.
 

Goose4291

Banned
Hahha, sorry. I came across this thread almost a year ago when researching how to "revive" GalCop. The entire thing was based on an actual lore blurb in the game, on a system, and it was about the legitimacy of using the GalCop name or if it was just cashing in.

No matter what the loremasters decide upon (aka the truth), the "official" story is some sort of ancient charter, still legal, was used to revive ancient oaths. Sort of like this:

"Hey, remember GalCop?"
"Why of course, my ancestors were sworn to them generations ago, until they fell ap-"
"Actually, it's technically still alive, and we kinda sorta need to call in those favors your great great great grandparents owed us"
"Really? Well, this looks to be in order. Guess I better go melt my plowshares back into swords"

Sure, it may well be all a fraud, a cash-in on an old dead organization. Or perhaps not. In a game where you can travel faster than light, all sorts of wonders are possible.

I'd love the guy who actually writes this stuff to sit down and fill me in on what's up with GalCop, because the internet is not very helpful on the subject.

DREW WAGNER! LOREMASTER! I CALL UPON THEE!

Didn't he answer this earlier yesterday in the other thread?

Like I said previously you might want to touch base with Allen Stroud also, the two of them helped write the lore bible than everything is based on :).

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Whichever member of the staff allowed this to be added has allowed the ingame map to desecrate the ingame lore.

I believe Morten-Marte was the system that Selezen (the chap behind the official pen and paper rpg) paid to name and write the description for in the kickstarter.
 
Didn't he answer this earlier yesterday in the other thread?

Like I said previously you might want to touch base with Allen Stroud also, the two of them helped write the lore bible than everything is based on :).

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I believe Morten-Marte was the system that Selezen (the chap behind the official pen and paper rpg) paid to name and write the description for in the kickstarter.

Then I apologise for the miss understanding but what im seeing is the diamond frogs currently desecrating in-game lore and claiming that they are them basicly which is a travesty.
 

Goose4291

Banned
The in-system descriptions for Jotunheim and Morten-Marte were put in at release, I think they're just trying to build on the lore they have to hand.

Drew did discuss the current GalCop Diamond Frogs coalition and their lore in a post in one of the other threads (see below):

Drew Wagner? Who is he? ;-)

Interesting to read, and if it really is approved by Frontier you'll find no argument from me. As it stands it makes no sense to me though. The old Galcop is a defunct organisation by the time of ED; it has no assets, no treaty, no rights, no titles... nothing for any new organisation to inherit or assume other than the name. It was a 'cooperative', not a faction with specific aims and objectives. There can't be a 'last remaining branch of Galcop', such a construct makes no sense for a Cooperative. To resurrect it like this sounds most peculiar, however Frontier are the final arbiters!

Cheers,

Drew.
 
Nope.
GalCop are the police. Galactic police, police colloquially known as coppers, or cops, or a cop in the singular. Galactic Cop(s) or GalCop.
GalCo-Op are the cooperative.

This is incorrect. GalCop was the Galactic Cooperative. 'GalCo-Op' was referred to in the ArcElite documentation and is generally considered a mis-spelling. GalCop had a police force, but that was only a minor subset of their activities. This is explained perfectly clearly in the original Elite manual.

GalCop was a political structure that collapsed prior to 3200 and was entirely dismantled. Until I hear otherwise, this new 'GalCop' that is being referred to as an in game player faction is merely trading on the ancient name. Frontier may decide to elevate Mr. Laphroaig's backstory into the Lore - that's entirely up to them. Up until that point, it's fan-fiction.

Oh, and it's Wagar. ;) And if you want to summon the real lore-master, you need to invoke the name of Dave 'Selezen' Hughes. :) I am just the humble apprentice.

Cheers,

Drew.
 
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All right. Make way for the original lore master. Not a pale imitation. Someone who has lived in the GalCop world for 30 years.

I wrote the Morten-Marte blurb. I cowrote the writer's guides with Allen and frontier. Including the guides to galcop and the old worlds. Drew, love him though I do, was not involved with that process. I also wrote everything on the daftworks website. Cos it's my website.

GalCop is the galactic co-operative of worlds. It has never referred to galactic cops. That would be the "galactic police" or the "cops" never the galcops.

GalCo-op was coined in the manual for ArcElite - the archimedes version of Elite. It also means galcop.

GalCop is gone. Dead. Buried. It died a horrible death in 3173. It's never coming back. It's ancient history. Everyone who remembered it is dead. Everyone who lived in it is dead.

Well. Almost everyone.

In elite dangerous terms galcop ceased to exist over a century ago. It didn't become federation, empire or alliance. It didn't even become Workers Of LHS 3447. There's nothing left. Even if there was, noone would talk about it.

Don't believe anything the other lore masters say. The Tionisla Historical Society archive is the truth. Accept no substitutes.

If anyone would like to ask me about this topic, please get in touch. I've lived and breathed galcop and its history for 30 years and have helped shape the remnants of that region over the last 3. And it was an honour and a privilege.

Thank you for time. Please visit the THS gift shop on your way out.

CMDR S. Lake
Deputy Director
Tionisla Historical Society
 
All right. Make way for the original lore master. Not a pale imitation. Someone who has lived in the GalCop world for 30 years.

I wrote the Morten-Marte blurb. I cowrote the writer's guides with Allen and frontier. Including the guides to galcop and the old worlds. Drew, love him though I do, was not involved with that process. I also wrote everything on the daftworks website. Cos it's my website.

GalCop is the galactic co-operative of worlds. It has never referred to galactic cops. That would be the "galactic police" or the "cops" never the galcops.

GalCo-op was coined in the manual for ArcElite - the archimedes version of Elite. It also means galcop.

GalCop is gone. Dead. Buried. It died a horrible death in 3173. It's never coming back. It's ancient history. Everyone who remembered it is dead. Everyone who lived in it is dead.

Well. Almost everyone.

In elite dangerous terms galcop ceased to exist over a century ago. It didn't become federation, empire or alliance. It didn't even become Workers Of LHS 3447. There's nothing left. Even if there was, noone would talk about it.

Don't believe anything the other lore masters say. The Tionisla Historical Society archive is the truth. Accept no substitutes.

If anyone would like to ask me about this topic, please get in touch. I've lived and breathed galcop and its history for 30 years and have helped shape the remnants of that region over the last 3. And it was an honour and a privilege.

Thank you for time. Please visit the THS gift shop on your way out.

CMDR S. Lake
Deputy Director
Tionisla Historical Society

This is great, thank you! I was flying blind, only instrumentation, when I came up with the idea (from the Jotunheim blurb) of "rediscovering" GalCop. I had the manual, the old elite wiki (which was a big help) and Goose's old post.

I think people read too much into me trying to "undermine" or "retcon" lore - which was not my intent. It's all open, and I am pitching ideas until one of them sticks.

Please keep in mind my perspective - if galcop is indeed dead and gone, it was not forgotten. Even with longer life spans, and better record keeping, details get lost, and where the truth fails, legends get told. Lies are spun, and sometimes those lies are what people rally around.

Selezen, if it is okay I would be honored to pick your brain over GalCop, and what I am going with this new GalCop. I think it would clear things up, because my initial pitch got some people the wrong idea of my intentions.

Private message, Skype, discord?
 
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