The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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I view of this, I shall be taking my Kindle on holiday with me next week, and before I leave, I will purchase Reclamation. I don't know how I will exist without being able to access the web and these threads. Hopefully there may some WiFi hotspots about, so I can at least read stuff.

It's a good read!
 
So, potentially, a CMDR could wreck the whole thing... wonder if whatever *IT* is, is something that will need to be scooped up?

I can see it now... "Careless CMDR faceplants unique alien artifact. Galactic authorities try to fine Artifact for reckless flying but garner no response from the fragments"
 
So, potentially, a CMDR could wreck the whole thing... wonder if whatever *IT* is, is something that will need to be scooped up?

I can see it now... "Careless CMDR faceplants unique alien artifact. Galactic authorities try to fine Artifact for reckless flying but garner no response from the fragments"

It'll get slapped with a Wanted tag and one of the many gawkers will swing by, shoot it, and collect the 9600 credit bounty at which point we can all go over and sing Kumbaya with the barnacles in 3 part harmony.
 
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A while ago, and many pages back, I talked about assets that might be in game, but which we have not seen yet. In this image, which I took from the signature of Iskariot, and which is used in news items, we see a structure inside what I can only guess is planetary rings.

'If' this image is produced entirely from in game assets, then perhaps getting close to planetary rings might show something up. This would significantly reduce the number of places we would need to look to just hundreds of thousands!
 
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As Kahina didn't need to go to Earth for coordinates perhaps the reason is simple politics and PR. Raising her profile over a couple of months so anyone who's ever read galnet will have heard of her and remember her, like a Kimye of 3301. IT can also serve as a public cover for her to meet and be appraised by dark shadowy people and agents within Federation space. She's creating a fuss just so the media looks at her.

The politics of the bubble looks similar to the build up to WW I.

This is bad for tinfoil sales.

You know it's all aluminium wrap, right? There's no tin involved, and aluminum has been found to be bad for that thing that makes you forget when you get older,,what's it called,,,azimuth's disease,,,,where's my glasses,,,,

nevermind
 
As Kahina didn't need to go to Earth for coordinates perhaps the reason is simple politics and PR. Raising her profile over a couple of months so anyone who's ever read galnet will have heard of her and remember her, like a Kimye of 3301. IT can also serve as a public cover for her to meet and be appraised by dark shadowy people and agents within Federation space. She's creating a fuss just so the media looks at her.

The politics of the bubble looks similar to the build up to WW I.

This is bad for tinfoil sales.

You know it's all aluminium wrap, right? There's no tin involved, and aluminum has been found to be bad for that thing that makes you forget when you get older,,what's it called,,,azimuth's disease,,,,where's my glasses,,,,

nevermind

Yeah ... Drew says that Petreus taking over the Prism system was a surprise. When Kahina visited Earth/Mars wasn't Prism still hers? Her legitimate business there may have pertained to her office as Senator.
 
I've decided to end my trip and now i'm heading home. Sorry, fellow rifters, but 2.1 is nearing and i want to make sure i'm ready when it hits. After that, i will get few modifications on my ship and probably moth later set off again. If, by that time, your minds hadn't already solved it :)

o7 CMDRs.
 
I've decided to end my trip and now i'm heading home. Sorry, fellow rifters, but 2.1 is nearing and i want to make sure i'm ready when it hits. After that, i will get few modifications on my ship and probably moth later set off again. If, by that time, your minds hadn't already solved it :)

o7 CMDRs.
Same here i'm afraid. o7
 
Same here i'm afraid. o7

Nothing to do with 2.1 (I can always suicide back to civilized space for Beta) but I'll probably be heading back myself. I'd like to trade the redundant AFMU for an extra fuel tank. And get an A-rated fuel scoop.
 
As Kahina didn't need to go to Earth for coordinates ....

Who says that Kahina actually has the co-ordinates, or the solution to this mystery? The trips to the archives, followed by her sudden retirement and trip out to Beagle Point suggest to me that she's still researching something.

I reckon she might just be a little further ahead than us in trying to decipher the riddle, rather than having hidden knowledge that she's holding back. (At least, from a character point of view - Drew and the operator of the Salome account obviously know the solution already.)
 
It is interesting that Senator Patreus is coming up in this thread. I was just thinking about that in the shower this morning.

I just finished listening to the audio version of Elite: Reclamation while meandering around the black (fantastic way to experience the story, by the way), and it got me thinking about Lady Kahina and her personality.

At the end of the book Lady Kahina is clearly tired of the "Powerplay" type activity that goes on in this universe. It causes unnecessary death and destruction everywhere (the opening chapter of the book is a brutal depiction of this). So her goal is for the people of the Prism system to live free of this nonsense. Kahina is also a no-nonsense character who would have no qualms with outright killing someone who is going to abuse the Prism system -- just look at the difference in the way she addresses the Federation compared to how the other Imperial "fluff" characters do. Kahina does not mess around and she learned a hard and valuable lesson in her battle to reclaim the Prism system, and she doesn't seem like the kind of person who would just let it all go even if she doesn't want to personally administer it.

So why, then, did she just throw it all away and disappear? She just disappeared and let Senator Patreus take over the Prism system. He is the exact opposite of the kind of person that Kahina would let Prism be subject to, being "infamous for his manipulative power-broking in the galaxy at large". At first I thought maybe she disappeared to execute some secret plan to subvert his control over the system, but then she shows up at Beagle Point, so she clearly has disavowed herself of any interest in the Prism system. She just abandoned it to the whims of Powerplay to go trouncing across the galaxy.

It just all makes no sense.
 
It is interesting that Senator Patreus is coming up in this thread. I was just thinking about that in the shower this morning.

I just finished listening to the audio version of Elite: Reclamation while meandering around the black (fantastic way to experience the story, by the way), and it got me thinking about Lady Kahina and her personality.

At the end of the book Lady Kahina is clearly tired of the "Powerplay" type activity that goes on in this universe. It causes unnecessary death and destruction everywhere (the opening chapter of the book is a brutal depiction of this). So her goal is for the people of the Prism system to live free of this nonsense. Kahina is also a no-nonsense character who would have no qualms with outright killing someone who is going to abuse the Prism system -- just look at the difference in the way she addresses the Federation compared to how the other Imperial "fluff" characters do. Kahina does not mess around and she learned a hard and valuable lesson in her battle to reclaim the Prism system, and she doesn't seem like the kind of person who would just let it all go even if she doesn't want to personally administer it.

So why, then, did she just throw it all away and disappear? She just disappeared and let Senator Patreus take over the Prism system. He is the exact opposite of the kind of person that Kahina would let Prism be subject to, being "infamous for his manipulative power-broking in the galaxy at large". At first I thought maybe she disappeared to execute some secret plan to subvert his control over the system, but then she shows up at Beagle Point, so she clearly has disavowed herself of any interest in the Prism system. She just abandoned it to the whims of Powerplay to go trouncing across the galaxy.

It just all makes no sense.


She is on to bigger and certainly more dangerous things. Patreaus is Daffy Duck compared to what's coming....
 
Who says that Kahina actually has the co-ordinates, or the solution to this mystery? The trips to the archives, followed by her sudden retirement and trip out to Beagle Point suggest to me that she's still researching something.

I reckon she might just be a little further ahead than us in trying to decipher the riddle, rather than having hidden knowledge that she's holding back. (At least, from a character point of view - Drew and the operator of the Salome account obviously know the solution already.)

There's a risk of conflating Kahina/Salome the book character with Kahina/Salome the player character to some extent. The trips to the archives were part of the story, her sudden retirement was Drew's exasperation with PP and game direction. That all took place from February to July. Several months later was when he agreed to allowing Kahina the player to assume the role but he was still semi-retired and therefore so was Kahina the book character.

Kahina the player (as I understand it) is searching just like us and is not privy to any information the rest of us are not. Again, as I understand it, Drew will act through her so he might drop her a note saying "Go to station X" and then post a Galnet article about Kahina going to station X. She won't know what to do there any more than we will and it's possible we'll figure it out first, so we're all on the same footing. But if Kahina the player ices a T9 in a signal source that's not news, that's just game play. Now it is entirely possible (and Drew alluded to it this morning) that if Kahina the player decides to do something particularly interesting, like going to Beagle Point, he might factor that into the story and make it part of the hints. For example her proclamation about selling data may well be relevant as I suspect she was fed those lines.

If I'm wrong about the above (in terms of detail, not nuance) then it really needs to be clarified.

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So why, then, did she just throw it all away and disappear? She just disappeared and let Senator Patreus take over the Prism system. He is the exact opposite of the kind of person that Kahina would let Prism be subject to, being "infamous for his manipulative power-broking in the galaxy at large". At first I thought maybe she disappeared to execute some secret plan to subvert his control over the system, but then she shows up at Beagle Point, so she clearly has disavowed herself of any interest in the Prism system. She just abandoned it to the whims of Powerplay to go trouncing across the galaxy.

It just all makes no sense.

That's because the book was wrapped up over a year before PP was even a thing. Patreus wasn't even a glint in anyone's eye at that time. It was the introduction of PP and Patreus taking over Prism that made the book non-canon at some level and therefore nonsensical. We need a timeline post so folks are clearer as to when story line and game events occurred. Some of the posts have them out of order or are missing how one impacted the other.
 
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There's a risk of conflating Kahina/Salome the book character with Kahina/Salome the player character to some extent. The trips to the archives were part of the story, her sudden retirement was Drew's exasperation with PP and game direction. That all took place from February to July. Several months later was when he agreed to allowing Kahina the player to assume the role.

Kahina the player (as I understand it) is searching just like us and is not privy to any information the rest of us are not. Again, as I understand it, Drew will act through her so he might drop her a note saying "Go to station X" and then post a Galnet article about Kahina going to station X. She won't know what to do there any more than we will and it's possible we'll figure it out first, so we're all on the same footing. But if Kahina the player ices a T9 in a signal source that's not news, that's just game play.

If I'm wrong about the above (in terms of detail, not nuance) then it really needs to be clarified.

That's exactly my take on the situation - but as you say, it really needs to be confirmed (or otherwise) officially.
 
It is interesting that Senator Patreus is coming up in this thread. I was just thinking about that in the shower this morning.

I just finished listening to the audio version of Elite: Reclamation while meandering around the black (fantastic way to experience the story, by the way), and it got me thinking about Lady Kahina and her personality.

At the end of the book Lady Kahina is clearly tired of the "Powerplay" type activity that goes on in this universe. It causes unnecessary death and destruction everywhere (the opening chapter of the book is a brutal depiction of this). So her goal is for the people of the Prism system to live free of this nonsense. Kahina is also a no-nonsense character who would have no qualms with outright killing someone who is going to abuse the Prism system -- just look at the difference in the way she addresses the Federation compared to how the other Imperial "fluff" characters do. Kahina does not mess around and she learned a hard and valuable lesson in her battle to reclaim the Prism system, and she doesn't seem like the kind of person who would just let it all go even if she doesn't want to personally administer it.

So why, then, did she just throw it all away and disappear? She just disappeared and let Senator Patreus take over the Prism system. He is the exact opposite of the kind of person that Kahina would let Prism be subject to, being "infamous for his manipulative power-broking in the galaxy at large". At first I thought maybe she disappeared to execute some secret plan to subvert his control over the system, but then she shows up at Beagle Point, so she clearly has disavowed herself of any interest in the Prism system. She just abandoned it to the whims of Powerplay to go trouncing across the galaxy.

It just all makes no sense.

My feeling on this is that as she's following up on something worse than the thargoids then it doesn't make sense for her to be fighting with Patreus right now. She could spend energy/time/attention defeating him just to have Prism (and the rest of humanity perhaps) taken over by whatever the mystery of the rift is.
 
She is on to bigger and certainly more dangerous things. Patreaus is Daffy Duck compared to what's coming....

My feeling on this is that as she's following up on something worse than the thargoids then it doesn't make sense for her to be fighting with Patreus right now. She could spend energy/time/attention defeating him just to have Prism (and the rest of humanity perhaps) taken over by whatever the mystery of the rift is.

I can believe this, but wasn't the whole point of giving power to Ambassador Cuthrick Delaney a move to ensure that the Prism System remained secure even if she couldn't handle the day-to-day? This would imply that Kahina does not have good judgement and Delaney is impotent, but the ending of Elite: Reclamation does not imply this at all.
 
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