Judging by 2.1 release... 2.3 will be released at 3.4 release date.
Why I regret buying this game.
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Would be a good solution, would make camping systems for new players much more difficult for the PKers. Best piece of advice for new players currently is to immediately move 20ly+ from your starter system and set up base at a new system if you want to play in Open.
In this case I dont. This is OPs 1st post, so they never asked for any advice. OP States that a friend also posted a complaint thread and got short shift, so THEY didnt ask for advise either.
True. Well, it's some kind of natural selection... Move or die
I left the Eravate area very early on - once I had enough upgrades to the Sidewinder to jump reasonable distances. It was 16 months ago and I very rarely saw another commander. I was certainly never attacked by one. My Son started playing around 6 months ago. He doesn't play very often as he has a number of other games he plays with friends. However, on my advice, he is also very much on the move across the systems picking up missions and selling cartographical data where he can to pay for his fuel and to slowly upgrade. He has made friends with a couple of fellow new commanders on his travels but he has not yet been attacked by a commander. He lost his ship once on the first day - an NPC that probably caught him unawares. I suspect being a moving target plays a part in avoiding those commanders that seek out newbies for their killing entertainment. So getting on the move out of the starting area is probably good advice OP. For the record... We both play exclusively in Open.
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Another rant about the game being too hard for newbies and too much griefing. Geez OP, did you not see the menu option for Solo? How about private group? You're friend wasn't very helpful if they didn't mention Mobius as an option. And you have a problem leaving the station? There are over a million people that have purchased this game and I'm fairly sure most of them managed to figure it out. Too many tutorials to read? It only takes a few minutes to find an answer on google to any question you have, no need for 'hours of tutorials". I get the whole griefing thing, but you had options to effectively make that go away.
What I get from this is post is you didn't take responsibility to sort out your issues, and you blame the community. I rather think that's unfair to 99.9% of us.
What I get from this is post is you didn't take responsibility to sort out your issues, and you blame the community. I rather think that's unfair to 99.9% of us.
Hate is a strong feeling.
Frustration with the community, I hope, is more accurate. The behaviors in space and on the forums can get tiring and annoying but I don't think it is deserving of hatred.
We aren't all that bad, and folks "ruining" your time are just trying to have a bit of fun (albeit at your expense). It is a game where we blow each other up...some times more than other times.
I recommend finding someone to wing up with or joining a group. There are several threads around with people looking for other people to join up with, it just takes a little bit of work.
Unless, of course, you are petitioning to join the Dark Side...let the hate flow through you!
Frustration with the community, I hope, is more accurate. The behaviors in space and on the forums can get tiring and annoying but I don't think it is deserving of hatred.
We aren't all that bad, and folks "ruining" your time are just trying to have a bit of fun (albeit at your expense). It is a game where we blow each other up...some times more than other times.
I recommend finding someone to wing up with or joining a group. There are several threads around with people looking for other people to join up with, it just takes a little bit of work.
Unless, of course, you are petitioning to join the Dark Side...let the hate flow through you!
I disagree. the flight model may be more realistic but in terms of actual content SC is still at the planning stage.
They dont even have a full system built , not even in house.
I prefere the StarWars look of Elite dangerous more than what SC has , I like both games but currently SC is a gamble I own it but dont care much for it.
just the 1:1 scale universe is a plus SC will never get and that can be the wildcard that will hold it all.
Well, the way you phrase this as a general accusation against everybody and predict the demise of the game will not get you many friends here - and I know that I am sick and tired of yet another whine and/or rage quit post.
As said before, you could have received a lot of support through the newbie forums and/ or Academy. That includes in-game support if you really need to be in Open as a new player. You could also have joined a PVE group (i.e. Mobius) or stayed in Solo until you learned the ropes. But since you decided to go the whine route, be prepared to get flamed.
In one thing you are correct though, Open can be quite a cesspit at times.
As said before, you could have received a lot of support through the newbie forums and/ or Academy. That includes in-game support if you really need to be in Open as a new player. You could also have joined a PVE group (i.e. Mobius) or stayed in Solo until you learned the ropes. But since you decided to go the whine route, be prepared to get flamed.
In one thing you are correct though, Open can be quite a cesspit at times.
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Open is fine if you fly in alliance space. never had an issue there ever.
I guess evil lurks within the federation...
You're just wrong. As is your friend.
The game is not too difficult for newbs. If my nine year old and his eleven year old big brother can wrap their heads around the game, you can too. End of story.
The game is not too difficult for newbs. If my nine year old and his eleven year old big brother can wrap their heads around the game, you can too. End of story.
Now come on, that wasn't always the case though was it? It may well be that Eravate is now the one of the most dangerous systems but it's not so long ago that Lave and Leesti in Alliance space would make the heart of every rare trader go cold
Eh, not really. I've been around for a long time so I'm familiar with the modes. But solo isn't necessarily newbie space and saying that's the answer really isn't answering the question. Is there any real, good reason why there isn't a protected newbie space? Some say more random and spread out start systems, but again it really doesn't answer the question. I haven't seen a counterpoint yet.
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All I can say is this : it's all about the location.
And I agree with many details you wrote... game is currently in the most lawless and toxic state ever since deep Beta (the current NPC bug preventing System Authority to even show up is merely the icing on the cake).
When I learned how to fly a Sidewinder around my Starter System, things were different. Much, much different. No comparison to what it has decayed to nowadays.
One of the best things all new Players can and should do :
- avoid Open Play near the Starter Systems
- or move out of the area ASAP (and I mean literally, as soon as you earned your first 1000 Credits - invest that into Fuel to leave that "failed state" Group of lawless Systems)
Although we're not too many, I'm seeing brand new or fairly new CMDRs making their first steps around our area (see Sig), and instead of getting blown to shreds - they got us as Wingmen, advice-givers and Friends.
They're doing fine and enjoy it.
Other Groups that offer similar assistance exist, so it might be worth to check out the Dangerous Groups SubForum and have a look around. (Mobius Group comes readily to mind, can't go wrong with that)
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Not at all. I hope SC to be a great success too but there is a clear distinction between wishful thinking and reality.
1:1 scale universe... I've seen all of it. There are 40-60 different things in space, if you've seen them all you've seen everything in this "1:1 universe".
SC is making progress, elite is pretty much in same beta state since release. Now with horizons. So, we've got game in beta with dlc in pre-alpha. And you should PRAY for SC being good because FD will have to actually do something.
The game is neither to tough on newbies nor is it intelligent to generalize a whole community because some people in a thread with measly 118 participants were mean to your friend.
Open is dangerous, but there are also a lot of people who are more than willing to help you. Every major player group welcomes new players and it's not that hard to make contact with them.
Open is dangerous, but there are also a lot of people who are more than willing to help you. Every major player group welcomes new players and it's not that hard to make contact with them.
Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb?
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Ooooh aah, mother, should I build the wall?
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Mother, should I trust the government?
Mother, will they put me in the firing line?
Ooooh aah, is it just a waste of time?
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She won't let you fly but she might let you sing
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Mother, do you think she's good enough?
Mother, do you think she's dangerous?
Mother, will she tear your little boy apart?
Oooh aah, mother, will she break my heart?
Hush now, baby, baby, don't you cry
Mama's gonna check out all your girlfriends for you
Mama won't let anyone dirty get through
Mama's gonna wait up till you get in
Mama will always find out where you've been
Mamma's gonna keep baby healthy and clean
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You'll always be a baby to me
Mother, didn't need to be so high
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Mother, do you think they'll like this song?
Mother, do you think they'll try to break my balls?
Ooooh aah, mother, should I build the wall?
Mother, should I run for president?
Mother, should I trust the government?
Mother, will they put me in the firing line?
Ooooh aah, is it just a waste of time?
Hush now, baby, baby, don't you cry
Mama's gonna make all of your nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing
She won't let you fly but she might let you sing
Mama's gonna keep baby cosy and warm
Ooooh, babe, ooooh, babe, ooooh, babe
Of course Mama's gonna help build the wall
Mother, do you think she's good enough?
Mother, do you think she's dangerous?
Mother, will she tear your little boy apart?
Oooh aah, mother, will she break my heart?
Hush now, baby, baby, don't you cry
Mama's gonna check out all your girlfriends for you
Mama won't let anyone dirty get through
Mama's gonna wait up till you get in
Mama will always find out where you've been
Mamma's gonna keep baby healthy and clean
Ooooh, babe, ooooh, babe, ooooh, babe
You'll always be a baby to me
Mother, didn't need to be so high
S1E
Huh? The OP complaints about being killed by other players. If Solo doesnt provide enough protection from other cmdrs, what do you propose? As for your repeated question, Ill repeat my answer in bold:
I dont want Open to have some kind of nanny-state intro when I reset my save just because some dude couldn't cope with having his free sidewinder being destroyed.
There. If that is somehow not clear enough: IMHO we are already pampered too much with our free Sidewinders. We can die a billion times without ANY consequence at all. We can disable all other cmdrs. We can enable friends to protect us. We can practice combat, landing and traveling as much as we want in the tutorials. Thats enough, if not too much. I dont like these boring safezones in other games, or these dreadfull tutorial starts in every single Bethesda game, or anything like it. When I click 'new game' I want to have 100% freedom instantly. I do not want to be treated like some five year old who cannot handle being shot at. I dont want to be told again how to run or duck. I dont want my first ten enemies to be handicapped. I dont need the game to tell me I am Super Awesome because I succesfully turned left for the first time. I, and many like me, are sick and tired of being treated by most major studios as if we're some pathetic loser who cant even handle a minor setback in a computer game. There is zero in-game reason for there to be a 'safe zone' or whatever. It runs counter to the ED lore and its very premise. I dont want newbie space for the same reason as I dont want some anime-girl telling me how sexy and ripped I am. Its obnoxious and offensive to me, breaks immersion and only re-affirms my suspicion the devs involved consider their customers to be sad people.
tl;dr My 'counterpoint' is that the concept of newbie space is terrible in every conceivable way.
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