And 6 billion who are not Muslim
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And 6 billion who are not Muslim
Unfortunately there is no way back. This is caused by low fertility in Eu countries. GB citizens other than muslims have it on around ~1-1.2. Muslim families have it over 1.8.
Muslim familiy have 3-8 childrens and a familiy not muslim - the aboriginal UK citizens have 0 or maybe 1, sometimes 2 childrens.
After 15 years a muslim population will be a majority in Your country, and what will hapen?
In a free and democratic election they will elect a muslim orientated political-party, what will bring the Sharia law, of course by the voice of majority. You can experience this process in last days.
Sad, but i dont know what You should do to reverse that process. You just need to have much more childrens.
For now, only central and eastern europe are safe from that, however their population is also not growing, however, the eastern/central europe population will not be replaced by a muslims, because there is no muslims, or they are very minority.
Unfortunately, this collapse is caused by a left-wing UE policy.
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Minonian
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Thats right there are nothing natural about a terrorist attack. Its a problem what you can deal with it, even if you can't completely close it out.
And to speak the truth, we have no good and bad choices about the Immigrant crisis, or the problems what the Daesh creates. We only have bad and worst choices. and we must pick up one of it.
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Yes, I understand. It's not my first language either.
Well... the way i see we have 2 choices. We can either finish to throw sarcastic remarks, and making the debate personal, or we can have another topic closed. What will be?
Neither of those, I'm trying to be civil and ask you what do you intend to do about these things that concern you so much?
I don't intend to do anything about it because it's not a concern to me or to the people where I live.
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Who are the "aboriginal UK citizens"?
Should I give my womb to the Fatherland?
You can do quite a lot against them without starting a war or utilizing an army.
Prevent the migration of new recruits.
Counter the propaganda of the IS.
Collect data over who funds them/where their funds are and freeze those funds.
Bring the civil war in Syria to an end (easier said than done, I know).
If you think starting a war is better than the situation at the moment, then you know nothing about how this kind of stuff works.
Starting a war against terrorism hasn't worked in the past and it won't work in the future.
*sarcasm on* Hell yeah, let's give our wombs to the fatherland, Marra. *sarcasm off*
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Minonian
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Sure, no prob, just try to be a little more discreet, because after about 100K posts altogether various in political blogs and forums in the past 10 years, + FB my experience says anyone who takes up a style you did is want to frame you or start a flame war. This is how we roll out of there in the Deep water. This place? It's just a bathtub to me with rubber duck.
Maybe the ones whom came from Australia with a boomerang under their belt? Because they are the aboriginals.Essentially all you said right now means warfare against them in open or hidden ways.
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Sure, no prob, just try to be a little more discreet, because after about 100K posts altogether various in political blogs and forums in the past 10 years, + FB my experience says anyone who takes up a style you did is want to frame you or start a flame war. This is how we roll out of there in the Deep water. This place? It's just a bathtub to me with rubber duck.
Good, I'm glad we understand each other
Now, back to the question; what do you think should be done to address your concerns?
Well, "aboriginal" just means the original peoples of any territory. The British Isles have been settled by so many peoples (Romans, Vikings, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Picts, Celts, French, European and Commonwealth) that there isn't really an "original" people anymore. So to imply that there's any sort of "pure" or "original" British people is pure fantasy.
Minonian
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have you read my other posts in there we are just talking about it right now.Good, I'm glad we understand each other
Now, back to the question; what do you think should be done to address your concerns?
That too, but Aboriginal, or ABO also means the Australian people.
Minonian
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Yeah somehow like that.Like 5th columning them in Private Groups / Solo?
But no matter what we must filter the ones come there, and do something about the Daesh. The point is we can't deal with the migrant crisis how W europe wants to, and Daesh must be stopped.
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Nope. When I say war I mean war. Not a metaphorical war with economic means nor a cyber war nor actions of the secret service against them.
Yes, I've been following your posts. They went like this:
You haven't actually stated what you think should be done, only that something needs to be done.
EDIT: I'm off to play with my cat. Thanks for the interesting discussion everyone!
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Minonian
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As Marra just said, 5th column is also a form of warfare only more subtle than bombing the hell out of them, and most of the time also means open actions, like raids targetting head personnel, destroying infrastructure, and so on. But i think It's not going to be enough against an organization with cell structure, and little dependency from infrastructure. because terrorists are like that not to mention the territory what they holding it must be liberated, and the one and only way to do that if someone go in and do the dirty job. What essentially means if we play the role of the 5th column, than someone else must do it, but real war is going to happen no matter what.
EDIT: I'm off to play with my cat. Thanks for the interesting discussion everyone!
And i'm just cleaned our kitties litter box. We have 4 right now, and 3 adult. Its a lil bit too much, but i like them.
No, i thank you.
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Not a single one of those terms I listed has anything to do with 5th column warfare or violence in the first place. I've also not proposed a guerilla war like you described it. Would be new to me that you can 5th column a terror group ... even if Daesh is an unusual group.
And for the part with "war is going to happen no matter what.": I prefer peace. The one thing I learned for sure in the army, is that I don't want to experience a war. Even if I'm unfit for military service now.
Minonian
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Everything you just said is part of the 5th column warfare, as secret services operation and guerrilla / asymmetrical warfare. And in under the current conditions we have no choice about it.
As do i.
But The Islamic state is not interested in peace. They are interested in conquest, and forcible conversion. What sadly means we have war and terrorist attacks.Here that's the important bit: "from within".
None of the actions I listed are executed from within. They're executed in the countries oppossing Daesh, with the aim of destabilizing them.
Short: No, they're neither actions taken in guerilla warfare nor 5th column actions. Yes, secret service, police and (maybe) the military are involved, but No, it's not warfare.
As do i.
It's dangerous to underestimate them, but you shouldn't overestimate them nonetheless. Daesh has neither the manpower nor the equipment nor the funds to go to war with Europe. And terrorist attacks, as horrible and treacherous they are, are not war.
Minonian
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Except the threat they generate, and the fact its going to continue as far the Islamic state is alive and kicking.
There are no peace loving way out of this problem, and no resolution without consequences, and trash to clean up.
About the American wars on terror and actions like Korea, and Afghanistan? This is where are you wrong, and here is why?
They are not failed on the war itself. The cause of the falitere is internal politics.
Any government who wages a long war in a democratic state have its camp reduced, so they forced to quit before they completely win the war and clean up their own mess. They just can't do what is necessary, as long its necessary.
There are no peace loving way out of this problem, and no resolution without consequences, and trash to clean up.
About the American wars on terror and actions like Korea, and Afghanistan? This is where are you wrong, and here is why?
They are not failed on the war itself. The cause of the falitere is internal politics.
Any government who wages a long war in a democratic state have its camp reduced, so they forced to quit before they completely win the war and clean up their own mess. They just can't do what is necessary, as long its necessary.
No. You have failed to demonstrate that there is any link whatsoever, except in your mind. Have you the slightest evidence that those behind the advertisement are in any way connected with acts of terrorism? Obviously not...
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