Someone has to point out that there are 400 billion systems, and we haven't even explored 0.1% of them yet. There's more than enough to go around 
Question to "tag everything"-ers
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Jon474
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Oh, wow. I'm turning back...I'm sorry. I'll tag them.
This is pretty much how I've gone about it from the beginning. Exploring to me was about picking places in the galaxy and making an adventure from the trip out there (in the early days usually via a story driven video series). Scanning everything along the way never even entered the mind.. for two reasons, firstly it became pretty obvious early on that there was nothing unique about scanning everything, it never unlocked some hidden content, a secret mission, or gave you anything but credits, and secondly getting your name on things wasn't even part of the game for the first two months so the 'prestige' wasn't really a thing back then for players and no one was none the wiser. Name tagging came along around patch 1.1, six weeks after the gamma bubble came down. Thankfully for players like Zulu Romeo and Kamzel it was retroactive and they rightly got their names on Sag-A and Beagle Point respectively.
In 2 million light years of travel I've probably fully tagged less than 50 star systems.. Which is actually a stat I'm weirdly proud of... Makes them a bit more special to me in a way. Beagle Point was one system I did fully tag with it being the end of the line for Distant Suns, but I was only ever credited with 3 or 4 of its worlds, and in hindsight it's a bug I'm happy to live with as there are 5 other intrepid pioneers who deservedly have their names out there too now.
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Depends whats in the system, usually I scan interesting things
I think that if its a nebula or something and you are the first to ever go there then it should be your name on the planets in it, because you were the first there.
HOWEVER, I feel systems like Beagle itself, with the many people who have tagged different things are special, and deserve to be like that.
I dont mind someone tagging all of a system, what I do mind is when a couple of people have tagged a couple of things in a system, but then another person has come along and tagged everything else in the system, when I feel they should have only tagged one thing, and left the other planets to someone else
Depends whats in the system, usually I scan interesting things
I think that if its a nebula or something and you are the first to ever go there then it should be your name on the planets in it, because you were the first there.
HOWEVER, I feel systems like Beagle itself, with the many people who have tagged different things are special, and deserve to be like that.
I dont mind someone tagging all of a system, what I do mind is when a couple of people have tagged a couple of things in a system, but then another person has come along and tagged everything else in the system, when I feel they should have only tagged one thing, and left the other planets to someone else
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I've almost always left something for others to scan in such places, but lately I have begun to scan some systems entirely. Why? Because I learned that an orrery is coming to Elite Galaxy Online, and if I find a system that looks interesting, I'll scan the bodies there and upload them later. This did include stuff close enough to the bubble. You might not like it when this happens, I might not like it when it happens, but it's a first come (back), first served system, and everyone is perfectly within their rights to tag everything if they got somewhere first.
Also, let's not forget that in the very early days of exploration (think gamma), due to a system mix-up, explorers would at times get their tags on all the bodies in the system if they honked, even if they didn't scan everything. For example, I have my name on a handful of named and inhabited systems where I've only scanned a couple of bodies. (And I'm still a bit disappointed that the binary Earth-likes in Caer Itar turned into water worlds after the last Stellar Forge update. Which is why the first thing I've done in every beta was to check some nearby Earth-likes to make sure nothing has been changed.) I have no idea how many of us first explorers are still active, but my point is that back then we tagged entire systems without even meaning to.
Also, let's not forget that in the very early days of exploration (think gamma), due to a system mix-up, explorers would at times get their tags on all the bodies in the system if they honked, even if they didn't scan everything. For example, I have my name on a handful of named and inhabited systems where I've only scanned a couple of bodies. (And I'm still a bit disappointed that the binary Earth-likes in Caer Itar turned into water worlds after the last Stellar Forge update. Which is why the first thing I've done in every beta was to check some nearby Earth-likes to make sure nothing has been changed.) I have no idea how many of us first explorers are still active, but my point is that back then we tagged entire systems without even meaning to.
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TBH, I don't really care if someone has taken his time to scan "every *expletive left out intentionally to save you the work, Dr. Kaii* rock" if a system is easy to reach. With only 0.0000... percent of the systems in this galaxy already tagged there is no need to be angry about it.
If something is hard to reach or very shiny I think of tags as a way to recognize your achievement. For example while at Beagle Point I burned some of my Jumponium to get farther out. I found every system out there already tagged by two or three of our very famous Explorers but everyone of them had left planets untagged to enable others to leave their mark on the system too. This is the fair way to do it and what I have done since I started exploring.
If something is hard to reach or very shiny I think of tags as a way to recognize your achievement. For example while at Beagle Point I burned some of my Jumponium to get farther out. I found every system out there already tagged by two or three of our very famous Explorers but everyone of them had left planets untagged to enable others to leave their mark on the system too. This is the fair way to do it and what I have done since I started exploring.
And the glory days, before you could afford an Advanced Discovery Scanner... Pelting along is SC looking for one of those little pixels of light to begin moving....
Anyway, I was in the scan everything camp until my last trip, I came across several systems that had 2 or even 3 commanders who had scanned only 1 body...so I scanned all the rest! (Just kidding)
For some reason it really resonated with me...so I scanned one body in the system and moved on.
It was strange really, but I hope in the future if an explorer comes across those systems, they too will scan one body and move on.
No rhyme, no reason...it just felt right at the time...(Of course if I find a system with 42 ELW....ALL BETS ARE OFF!!!)
Anyway, I was in the scan everything camp until my last trip, I came across several systems that had 2 or even 3 commanders who had scanned only 1 body...so I scanned all the rest! (Just kidding)
For some reason it really resonated with me...so I scanned one body in the system and moved on.
It was strange really, but I hope in the future if an explorer comes across those systems, they too will scan one body and move on.
No rhyme, no reason...it just felt right at the time...(Of course if I find a system with 42 ELW....ALL BETS ARE OFF!!!)
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System in my sig'... That's the only system where I've tagged everything to be claimed, excluding the star, which was already claimed.
On my way there I scooped & honked, and the same on my way back.
I have my ELW, so I don't really care about tagging anymore.
On my way there I scooped & honked, and the same on my way back.
I have my ELW, so I don't really care about tagging anymore.
There was a cluster of 5 stars with a 55ly jump to it. Of those 5 I only scanned one system. Leaving 2 interesting and 2 iceball systems. One of the interesting systems has 2 WW in it. I figured when someone has to use 2 boosts, it's nice to leave them with something to scan.Ok but to all those who have legitimate reasons to scan everything. The question remains, does it not occur to you to leave some things free on systems of interest? A nebula? A system in or near the bubble comes to mind
To your question, no. If I see a nice system I scan a nice system. Partial scanned systems look ugly to me. I will do partial scans if I just want to land on some planets. I'll scan those planets only by flying towards them of course.
Question to you, you say you rarely tag everything, especially not close to the bubble. When you do tag, which type of planets do you leave untagged?
Just because something has already been scanned does not mean you can't scan it again it will still earn you money.
Of course that is not what you want, what you want is YOUR name on it, which is what the first guy wanted as well so where's the difference?
Personally i only scan the interesting bodies within a system, that is probably just as annoying I would think especially if newer players don't know how to predict the best planets and get excited seeing unscanned planets, only to find they are all just boring ice worlds or rocky bodies.
Of course that is not what you want, what you want is YOUR name on it, which is what the first guy wanted as well so where's the difference?
Personally i only scan the interesting bodies within a system, that is probably just as annoying I would think especially if newer players don't know how to predict the best planets and get excited seeing unscanned planets, only to find they are all just boring ice worlds or rocky bodies.
Total cherry picker here. The main star and any earth likes, ammonias, neutrons or black holes, but that's it.
I think this is a natural consequence of having visited 30000 systems now, been out past Beagle point and back 3 times and a total of over a million light years traveled so far.
I think this is a natural consequence of having visited 30000 systems now, been out past Beagle point and back 3 times and a total of over a million light years traveled so far.
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Over 50% fully scanned - you're a closet cartographer Kitty
Shhhh... dont let my secret out!
Oh... and just updated my blog.. The title? "God doesn't build in straight lines". You will need to read and see why
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I have two modes of exploration which I call 'surveying' and 'travelling'. Mostly I survey, which means performing a detailed scan of every new object, but currently I'm travelling to Sagittarius A*. My plan is to honk, scoop, and jump to the galactic centre in the shortest time I can and then work my way home in surveying mode. I've lost count of the systems where I didn't even look at the map after scanning, but I don't mind so much because I've seen how many systems are out there.
Six months ago I would filter out systems on the galaxy map to show only the most likely ELW candidates (F,G, and K) but such is the density of stars closer to Sag. A that, at the moment I, display only G-type stars just to make route planning easier - there is so much exploration to do we can afford to let everyone do it how they want.
Six months ago I would filter out systems on the galaxy map to show only the most likely ELW candidates (F,G, and K) but such is the density of stars closer to Sag. A that, at the moment I, display only G-type stars just to make route planning easier - there is so much exploration to do we can afford to let everyone do it how they want.
I am gathering this is about systems relatively close to civ space? in which case, I can only really say.....does it matter?Hi guys,
Just a quick question. Why do you tag EVERYTHING in a system rather than leave something for someone else? You know who you are. I don't really mind random systems, but nice systems, like anything within 1000ly of the bubble, or in a nebula, or other attractive system.
It kinda feels like the motivation is "this system is for ME TagBoy243, everyone will see TagBoy243 when they come here and NOBODY else bwahahahaha!"
Which comes across kinda selfish ya know? Wouldn't it be polite to let some others get a moon or something with their name on it? What do you lose?
Anyway, this thread isn't to great tension, it's to alleviate it. I'd really be happy to hear how my presumption is false and the real reason you do it
I very rarely tag EVERYTHING, but sometimes I do, but only somewhere very far away, where people won't feel like they are missing out.
The moment you get a certain limit from civ space, assuming you aren't flying towards towards "ooh shiny" stuff, and thus follow the routes a ton of others have done, then you will find so, so so, so, many undiscovered stars that it really doesn't matter, at least in my book, and when you are far out enough 'why not' tag everything?
Hi guys,
Just a quick question. Why do you tag EVERYTHING in a system rather than leave something for someone else? You know who you are. I don't really mind random systems, but nice systems, like anything within 1000ly of the bubble, or in a nebula, or other attractive system.
It kinda feels like the motivation is "this system is for ME TagBoy243, everyone will see TagBoy243 when they come here and NOBODY else bwahahahaha!"
Which comes across kinda selfish ya know? Wouldn't it be polite to let some others get a moon or something with their name on it? What do you lose?
Anyway, this thread isn't to great tension, it's to alleviate it. I'd really be happy to hear how my presumption is false and the real reason you do it
I very rarely tag EVERYTHING, but sometimes I do, but only somewhere very far away, where people won't feel like they are missing out.
Sorry, but having seen several threads arguing the exact opposite - that it is "kinda selfish" to cherry-pick systems and not "finish them properly" - I can only respond that if people don't like the way I scan, they will have to get there first. Meanwhile, I will scan whatever I feel like at the time, whether it is just a main star and a terraformable water world or an entire system down to the last icy blob. Neither 'politeness' nor pandering to other peoples' OCD is going to make an appreciable difference in a galaxy this big, and I'm not exploring for anyone but myself - if I wanted to be constrained to doing whatever it is that other players think I should be doing, I'd be trading slaves from Robigo, or whatever it is that is supposedly the 'best' may to play Elite. Not my idea of fun...
