Question to "tag everything"-ers

Cdr Voorheez

Cdr Voorheez
I have been out since Jan (DWE) and have done a combination of all of the above to be honest.
I use EDD and if I do a full on scan everything epic I will actually note that on EDD. It's the exception rather than the rule.
Why?
Time.
I do not have the time nor the inclination to stop and scan every planetary body in every system.
So far I've scanned approx 5K systems since Jan and I'm 18K from Sol, if I had scanned everything I probably wouldn't be at BP yet.
Remember DWE has had a double time schedule on it for the participants. I want to get back before 2.1 as well.
 
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Piercetech

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Because theres tons of star out there and i would rather claim some for when we send colonies to the stars they will know that i was one who found the earth like there on XD
 

[VR] optimal_909

[VR] optimal_909
To be frank, I don't understand why this is an issue at all.

I would be more concerned what happens to the tags once E : D galaxy expires. At one point the game will have take a leap forward. Will we get a new Milky Way, or simply venture to Andromeda?
 

newman1702

newman1702
optimal_909 said:
To be frank, I don't understand why this is an issue at all.

I would be more concerned what happens to the tags once E : D galaxy expires. At one point the game will have take a leap forward. Will we get a new Milky Way, or simply venture to Andromeda?
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How would our galaxy - expire? If you mean, fully explored, we've barely scratched the surface of what's explored - it'll take many years to just get to 1% explored at this rate. That means that the duration it will take to explore everything is considerably longer than what this game's lifetime will be.

FD once said on a livestream, when asked about different galaxies, that there's 4 billion stars in this one and the vast majority remains unexplored. A vast majority will likely remain unexplored forever, too, so they'd rather focus on this one while the game remains live. They could always change their mind as time goes on, but I wouldn't expect more galaxies in this game tbh. In my opinion, not needed either.
 
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Traveller_GG

Traveller_GG
optimal_909 said:
To be frank, I don't understand why this is an issue at all.

I would be more concerned what happens to the tags once E : D galaxy expires. At one point the game will have take a leap forward. Will we get a new Milky Way, or simply venture to Andromeda?
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Almost certainly a new Galaxy, but it'll be interesting how they handle it given that the explorers have caused the biggest impact on the size of the game's database
 

[VR] optimal_909

[VR] optimal_909
newman1702 said:
How would our galaxy - expire? If you mean, fully explored, we've barely scratched the surface of what's explored - it'll take many years to just get to 1% explored at this rate. That means that the duration it will take to explore everything is considerably longer than what this game's lifetime will be.

FD once said on a livestream, when asked about different galaxies, that there's 4 billion stars in this one and the vast majority remains unexplored. A vast majority will likely remain unexplored forever, too, so they'd rather focus on this one while the game remains live. They could always change their mind as time goes on, but I wouldn't expect more galaxies in this game tbh. In my opinion, not needed either.
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I meant when E : D iself expires, it will take the galaxy with it. My opinion is the same as Traveller_GG's, Elite will probably move on to another place making the current galaxy obsolete.
It is true, that this galaxy will remain largely unexplored, but the low hangig fruits have been reached already: furthermost points, large nebulae, etc.. FD could add features to the galaxy (the known region around the bubble has far more details than the procedurically generated part), but that would break the immersion somewhat.

Anyway, the explorer mindset will probably has to change a bit over time.
 

bkrownd

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Zeeman said:
I have a feeling there are still one or two untagged planets in the bubble, if not systems. There must be still quite a few untouched systems within spitting distance of the bubble. Finding them now is more to do with luck than anything else, though.
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In February I was still getting an occasional "new discovery" congratulation for some objects in the Bubble. I haven't been doing as much surveying the last few months, though.
 
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newman1702

newman1702
optimal_909 said:
I meant when E : D iself expires, it will take the galaxy with it. My opinion is the same as Traveller_GG's, Elite will probably move on to another place making the current galaxy obsolete.
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When the game itself reaches the end of it's life span and is taken offline, it will hardly matter. If there is a sequel - which is in no way guaranteed - it will be an entirely new game with a new galaxy map.

It's an interesting topic to broach, though - what happens to Elite when it's taken offline, if anything? Would be nice if they let us play offline at that point..
 
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Zieman

Zieman
drkaii said:
Hi guys,

Just a quick question. Why do you tag EVERYTHING in a system rather than leave something for someone else? You know who you are. I don't really mind random systems, but nice systems, like anything within 1000ly of the bubble, or in a nebula, or other attractive system.

It kinda feels like the motivation is "this system is for ME TagBoy243, everyone will see TagBoy243 when they come here and NOBODY else bwahahahaha!"

Which comes across kinda selfish ya know? Wouldn't it be polite to let some others get a moon or something with their name on it? What do you lose?

Anyway, this thread isn't to great tension, it's to alleviate it. I'd really be happy to hear how my presumption is false and the real reason you do it :)

I very rarely tag EVERYTHING, but sometimes I do, but only somewhere very far away, where people won't feel like they are missing out.
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Spaceman Spiff says: Blaze you own trail, don't impose your arbitrary system on everyone else!

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popuptoaster

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DB himself said way back that he isn't planning any more Elite games, this is supposed to be his last but he wants constant updates and upgrades to keep the game relevant, i'm pretty sure he mentioned a ten year plan if player interest kept up.

He says the game engine is designed to facility advances in technology, for example it is capable of rendering the game in much much higher resolutions than current GPUs can manage so i doubt we'll be seeing ED vanishing while there is still any players left in it.
 
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Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
drkaii said:
Ok but to all those who have legitimate reasons to scan everything. The question remains, does it not occur to you to leave some things free on systems of interest? A nebula? A system in or near the bubble comes to mind :)
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Nope. Not at all. No altruistic thoughts on that what. so. evar!

If I find a juicy ELW - every single scannable thing in that system is going to get tagged.
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
drkaii said:
Hi guys,

Just a quick question. Why do you tag EVERYTHING in a system rather than leave something for someone else? You know who you are. I don't really mind random systems, but nice systems, like anything within 1000ly of the bubble, or in a nebula, or other attractive system.

It kinda feels like the motivation is "this system is for ME TagBoy243, everyone will see TagBoy243 when they come here and NOBODY else bwahahahaha!"

Which comes across kinda selfish ya know? Wouldn't it be polite to let some others get a moon or something with their name on it? What do you lose?

Anyway, this thread isn't to great tension, it's to alleviate it. I'd really be happy to hear how my presumption is false and the real reason you do it :)

I very rarely tag EVERYTHING, but sometimes I do, but only somewhere very far away, where people won't feel like they are missing out.
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I have not attached my name to a single thing in the ED universe and I do not care if I ever will. I do not even understand those who care about such a thing.
I am not very much interested in exploring at the moment (I'm Pathfinder), because I feel the game needs more content for it to become interesting to me.
I will wait for atmospheric landing, alien flora and fauna, volcanic planets, alien artifacts etc.

When the time to explore for me has come I will do so meticulously.
Sometimes I will scan everything, sometimes I will not, but never will I consider not scanning something because perhaps some other player might someday come along and must have something to attach his name to. I think that is totally unimportant, ridiculous even.
I do not expect other players to leave stuff for me to tag either and I do not care if they do or don't.
If I want to tag something I can write my name on a piece of paper.
The only reason I might not scan something is because it is too far away, or because it is not interesting enough, or simply because I do not feel like it.
 
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popuptoaster

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newman1702 said:
Somehow I don't think plugging my HOTAS into a watch will be practical, though :p
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All physical control methods will be gone eventually, games (and other tech) will be reading muscle impulses or even direct from brain waves eventually. The tech already exists it just takes times to be refined for consumer use.

Gaming device strapped to your wrist reading nerve impulses and transmitting images to glasses or contact lenses might be the way we play in ten or twenty years.

One of the advantages of being old is that you learn how fast technology changes.
 

Iron Orchid

Iron Orchid
newman1702 said:
Somehow I don't think plugging my HOTAS into a watch will be practical, though :p
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It'll all be done with mind control...


(Rule #57 "always remember to read all posts before posting your reply so not to look stupid by posting the same answer that was posted 2 hours earlier.")
 
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frostypaw

frostypaw
Kenneth Mcgrew said:
when i enter an unclaimed system im like a seagull from finding nemo


https://harpandclay.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/mine.jpg
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This was me after this first big explore - went back through the log of every ELW/TWW/AW to count 'score' as far as I care about it as an explorer

I can't blame anyone for scanning full systems, it's their prerogative and it's good to see people caring - they go to some great lengths in some cases - and especially near major features or particularly interesting systems it'd almost be sad if they weren't well explored

However it's also lovely finding systems that are like a log book of those who've passed, but each sector becomes like that over time anyway so I don't feel bad cherry picking - I've made more from fully scanning local systems than from the richest distant cherry pick anyway, so there's always as much to be made again from the system
 
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