But doing it for salt is emergent gameplay?
No my friend, no >_>
Is "Save"ing still a legitimate tactic to avoid destruction ?
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No my friend, no >_>
Having read this thread, and many others you've contributed to, would you care to know what makes me sad, GluttonyFang? That as an Xbox commander, meeting you in game is only a dream. That saddens me.
As for the topic at hand? Op is a tool for logging out on a fight he started, especially since he was so close to a proper escape.
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But your honor, speculation...
The defendant testified that:
"Before I could jump into super-cruise he had my shields down and my hull is slowly crumbling. I went to high-wake out and, horror of horror, my FSD is unavailable, offline. He had shot it out. So now all I can do is boost and wait to die. So I kept boosting, he kept firing, but amazingly I'm gaining ground. Slowly the hits get much less damaging and I keep boosting....and boosting.... At 13% hull my shields come back online (thats a long time in a Conda). I keep boosting. The firing stops. I boost a couple more times, try my FSD - its still off-line, still no firing so I hit "Save and exit to Desktop". The 15-second count-down takes forever and towards the end I can hear the firing start again. Any second I'm expecting to hear the Conda explode.....and suddenly I can save... Phew - close call....."
As we can see here, the defendant merely testified that he was gaining ground, a cease of firing from the aggressor does not mandate the possibility of being out of range.
If such speculating were allowed, it's more likely that the aggressor believe his prey has no mean of escape considering the status of the victim's FSD and decided to make use of the communication panel.
Except that it's pretty much improbable considering the quantified data I'm providing:
FDL downgraded to extreme low speed has a boost of 370+ and a travel top speed of 275+
Conda upgraded to the extreme high speed has a boost of 280+ and a travel top speed of 210+
Pilot error is very much unlikely considering the FDL pilot has the ability to accurately destroy the FSD of the Conda.
Indeed, which is why I've proposed that kind of mechanic as a part of my proposal:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=235327
oh god, who made you a judge in the internet?
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No, we were just playing court room simulator 2016, and I was RPing as an attorney .-.
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It's okay, I accept the appreciation gladly nevertheless
Rinzler o7o7o7
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It's still combat logging given that it's literally "logging in combat", and is grounds to be put on www.reddit.com/r/EliteCombatLoggers, KoS lists, blacklists, and whatnot.
Zero respect for loggers
Zero respect for loggers
Now now, the guy didn't do it to frustrate people, as he explained, let him off the hook for this occasion.
Rinzler o7o7o7
Banned
I know, but just generally speaking. People defend it as if it isn't combat logging, when it literally lives up to the name.
So then, what is your view on those delightful people who laughably attempt DOS? Zero respect for script kiddies
Rinzler o7o7o7
Banned
So then, what is your view on those delightful people who laughably attempt DOS? Zero respect for script kiddies
Script kiddies, loggers, cheats - all from the same camp in my opinion.
Now now, not much harm is done, plus OP explained his situation, let's not assume malice until proven otherwise.
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A tip for the OP:
It seems like you gathered pretty much the full spectrum of opinions and the dilemma appears to be solved, you might want to contact and request the mods to close the thread.
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We only have the OP's word on that and I have seen no evidence to the contrary to disbelieve it. There could have been a Very Good Reason as to why the CMDR in the FdL couldn't catch up with the Conda - or there couldn't, we don't know, as we haven't heard from the other CMDR.
So it's probably best just to leave the thread alone now and put it down to lessons have been learnt.
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You missed private group infiltrators.
And right you are.
Don't be bothered by the guys who're slagging you for it. They are on record for condoning far worse than a legitimate legal log-off, with the justification: FD has no rule against it. So if they are putting you on KoS lists they reveal themselves being the hypocrites they are.
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Except that there is no contradiction.
Safe combat log is legitimate, putting players on KoS list for any reason is also legitimate, as long as it doesn't carry over to anything real life.
stinkyballs
Banned
Except I said there is hypocrisy.
Graceful exit combat logging = frustrating players so reason for KoS lists. Eventhough FD allows it in their rules.
Private Group infiltration = frustrating players so reason for "Yeah, I don't approve, but whatchagonnado? FD allows it, and we're not going to throw them out of our little club that's for sure, those little rascals [heart]"
Hypocrisy in attitude towards similar cases.
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One thing I'm really trying to understand, and perhaps someone can layman it for me..
Why is it so important to destroy someone's ship, who has already submitted, lost, and is running with their tail between their legs?
Just for the fact you have already won, makes you the winner, yet, the zero in game incentive to send the opponent to the insurance screen seems irrelevant, pointless, and has no further in game importance.
Perhaps my illogical vantage point makes me miss the finer details...
Why is it so important to destroy someone's ship, who has already submitted, lost, and is running with their tail between their legs?
Just for the fact you have already won, makes you the winner, yet, the zero in game incentive to send the opponent to the insurance screen seems irrelevant, pointless, and has no further in game importance.
Perhaps my illogical vantage point makes me miss the finer details...