Gimballed - cheating/cheap, yay or nay?

Arry

Arry
iconoclypse said:
I've been toying with the idea of fitting turrets, but I don't know. I'm scoring kills with gimballed beams and MCs and it's a little bit of 'if it ain't broken...'
On which note if gimballed weapons are cheats, what about turrets?! btw regarding this being a nonsense thread, I kind of agree, but I've learnt something so silver lining and all that...
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The major advantage with turrets over gimbals is the turrets will keep hitting the target, when it is out of sight. One thing I love about them, is as I am performing a tactical retreat to recharge my shields, the turrets are still hitting the ship chasing me. So as i recharge my shields, the target ship, is losing its own shields. Then as I turn, un-target to stop the turrets firing, hit the hostile button and make use of the multi-cannons.
 

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Colossus1921 said:
One thing that I think would be interesting is a special effect on sensors from an engineer that mitigates or outright negates the effects of chaff.

And, cue the hate.
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Would be interesting, but very unlikely to happen. Not least because realistically, no amount of tracking software can negate thousands of tin-foil pieces disrupting physical waves.
 

PHANTOMCYPHER

PHANTOMCYPHER
Gimballed PAC? Nope.

The Gimballed cannon is dookie, a PAC counterpart would be dookier,
Just my opinion.

What is fact- they won't be better than fixed period..
 

DustyArne

DustyArne
PHANTOMCYPHER said:
If anything fixed are MEGA CHEAT weapons.
Who needs chaff? When you can literally shoot your prey while they panic on why their countermeasures are not working.

Oh the tears a nutritionally delicious...
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chaff is always useless, if my target is using chaff I just deselect it, so my hardpoints become fixed.
 

Fray

Fray
Reina Kaede said:
How is something that's part of the game cheating? Not only are they weaker than fixed, but they're also affected by things like Chaff. They're not aimbots.
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V8UC ALICORN said:
In the game = Legitimate gameplay


Why is this thread even a thing?
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It was a thread about perceptions of game mechanics and systems. Are either of you really suggesting 'X is cheating/cheap!' isn't a recurring discussion with games? Wind the clock back to the early '90's and what was cheesing in Street Fighter II was enough of a topic to cause scuffles... And I'm sure plenty of other examples can be found well before that.

BongoBaggins said:
OP, get in a cheap ship though and practise with fixed lasers. It's surprising how quickly your aim improves. And it's a nice feeling holding a target on the end of your beams watching completely ineffective plumes of chaff come out
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Heh, I could just try with plasma accelerators. The Viper IV has enough shields and armour to compensate for terrible aiming. ;-) I wonder if the heat would be an issue, though. It goes without saying I have to fire 'fixed' when chaff's used. If you're close enough, it's not an issue, but from medium range it can just become potluck sometimes - and then it becomes heat, weapon CD, and damage inefficient (i.e. to keep firing with deselected gimbals at longer ranges).

I'd be curious to see the percentage of the playerbase using fixed, on PC and console (do FD have that data, I wonder?). Would there be more fixed users on PC given they've been playing for longer than on console, and they have potential access to flight sticks? That seems logical, but without data it's just speculation.

sniper fish said:
This Vid from the excellent Vindicator Jones explains the pros and cons very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHi_POR9-uc
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Yeah, that was a decent video - could be that's where I first found out about deselecting.
 

Gully Foyle

Gully Foyle
Kenneth Mcgrew said:
some of us are just rubbish (other words available) at aiming.

they have reduced damage to compensate for their tracking ability it's balanced, besides its the future, a gun on a hinge is hardly revolutionary when cars can drive themselves around london TODAY

for those that want the stupid iron mode like driving a 60s car in gran turismo with the traction control and ABS turned off fitted with bald tyres and square wheels let them do it, but dont screw it up for the rest of us

just buy one of these beasts and enter it into the a-spec race.. self inflicted hard mode engage....

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net...L-X_'99.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120501231552
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Or Kubelwagen races on the TG tracK!
 

Hordriss

Hordriss
Arry said:
I have had the chance to watch this game played on a new top spec gaming PC. My FPS is limited to about 60, which is fine for my game. My friend on his nice new toy, gets FPS well over 1,000 and his game play is much more precise. Turning on targets is much faster, even with F.A. on. The better GPU, CPU etc, really makes the difference. I played my commander on his PC and I can really feel the difference. In short; the spec of the PC, really makes a difference.
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I'm pretty sure 1000 FPS is impossible, even on a top rig.
 

Correct

Correct
Hordriss said:
I'm pretty sure 1000 FPS is impossible, even on a top rig.
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I run 5,000 FPS so there's that...
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